SENATE BILL: Reforming Atlasian Public Health Act of 2014 (Debating)

[Sec. of State Superique]

The CSSRA calculation!

[Sec. of State Superique]

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So, then we have a loophole in the law? Aren't we saving any money at all?

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So, then we have a loophole in the law? Aren't we saving any money at all?

I'm not sure whether I'm missing something, but it seems as if we are paying health care providers less and telling them that they can't bill patients for the difference. At this point I wonder whether we have any hospitals that haven't declared bankruptcy.

It would go through the insurance.

I don't understand why most people (and employers) would bother carrying insurance after the 2009 law was enacted, which guaranteed a "universal, best" standard of care covering "all medically necessary" services to "all individuals residing in Atlasia," available at any health care provider (public or private), free of charge.

Because we eliminated that.

Averroes has a point over here. We should end this loophole as soon as possible!

[Sec. of State Superique]

I don't understand the healthcare system enough to be of much help here. Good luck with this bill.

LOL, what happens if we discover that we've been bankrupting clinics since the reform?

[Sec. of State Superique]

There are a few major problems I see with the current pay structure. The main one is that there are some very steep drop-offs for benefits, such that we can imagine, for instance, there are many people asking their employers to not give them a raise or not taking that higher-paying job for fear they will get stuck with a larger health care cost that will more than make up the difference.  This problem gets worse the more individuals there are being covered under a single income.
I'm not sure the best way to fix it, but it will probably require a major change.

We can make it look like other types of taxation, putting brackets on it and making it similar to the Income Tax. From x to y you pay z%; after y to m you pay r%...

[Sec. of State Superique]

Guys! Single-payer is compatible with Private Providers!

[Sec. of State Superique]

Aye

I thought you were better than that

[Sec. of State Superique]

A bandage that will hopefully allow us to resume debate on some kind of reform package here.


Shua's proposal in the debate thread to switch from a sliding scale of benefits to a sliding scale of premiums interests me. I would be up for pursuing that along the lines he described, adding in the high risk pools and HSAs, which I recall he talked about too, whilst of course preserving coverage for the poor and preventative care.

I was talking about the sliding scale premium but people were not pretty happy with my idea that I consider much more sophysticated than indirect taxation for funding of the program.