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DC Al Fine
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« on: July 19, 2018, 05:25:36 PM »

The left only cares about minorities these days. No wonder they can't get majorities to vote for them anymore.
“First they came after the trade unionists...”
At a point they will come after you, or something will bite your hand, don’t expect people to take it swimmingly. Excuse us for caring about justice and fairness for a better life.

Using "first they came" to criticize a hated Jewish state. How ironic.
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2018, 12:11:31 PM »

Now that I think about it, one of the problems with a fully democratic 1 state solution is that Israel wouldn't be majority Jewish anymore.

However, what about this? Gaza becomes independent (or joins Egypt) but the West Bank becomes part of Israel.

This would mean the following approximate demographics if my math isn't wrong

Israeli Jews: 6.6 million
Israeli non Jews: 2.3 million

West Bank Jews: 0.8 million
West Bank non Jews: 2.7 million

Total Jews: 7.4 million
Total non Jews: 5 million

So still a sizable majority of Jews (roughly 60-40). I might be doing the math wrong though.

Still think 2 states are probably the best solution though (or technically 3, I'd say Gaza should either be independent or join Egypt, non contiguous countries aren't good unless they are archipielagos IMO)

There is also the Golan Heights, though since, despite what I've written here that is based on my absolute contempt for Likud and Netanyahu, I'm actually totally sympathetic to Israel, I can completely understand Israel's desire to keep complete control of the Golan Heights.

I also think the idea of Jerusalem as some kind of world city is completely impractical and that the whole city needs to be under one nation which most logically is Israel.

Completely agreed with you here.

While I think that the "appartheid" calls are tiresome and historically inaccurate in any case, this is one of the major reasons I want a 2SS- I don't want to live in a country where we have to resort to questionable tactics to keep our majority. It's not just wrong- it's a barrel of gunpowder waiting to explode, especially if the Palestinians grow faster than the Jews (which isn't a guarantee, but still). The 7.4-5 demographics are bad and I don't expect them to substantially shift in favour of the Jews in the next decades. So in essence, we need to divorce the Palestinians. It's practically an existential need for the Jewish, Democratic State.

What are 7.4-5 demographics?
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