OH-Gravis Marketing: The President now leads, 50-49

[Cliffy]

Romney wins Independents by 12

D+8 turnout, whoooo, someone let me know if it shows you guys winning with a D+3 turnout or better, then we have something to talk about.

Romney wins Independents by 12, lol.

[Cliffy]

I think he's referring to Gallup's state of the nation party ID tracker, Ras has one too.  They both show the nation being R+1-2, maybe one of them was 3 I'd have to go back and look. 

Romney wins Independents by 12

D+8 turnout, whoooo, someone let me know if it shows you guys winning with a D+3 turnout or better, then we have something to talk about.

Romney wins Independents by 12, lol.

Those independents are republicans in terms of voting and thinking. So, if they were honest about their ideology, they'd call theirselves "republicans", and you'd have a D+2 party ID and real  independents being split 50-50, not +12 Romney.

So, shut up.

Yeah, because one party has a monopoly on truthfulness. The Gallup numbers (both with self identified R/D/I and R or D), suggests otherwise. Gallup has it at about R+3 with a 7-8 point shift from '08. Rasmussen is very similar. It's not respondent truth defects by Republicans only.

You do realize Gallup doesn't weigh by Party ID dont you?