Papal Conclave - 2007 Info Center

[12th Doctor]

I've been reading up on a number of the popes as of late, and I came up with an idea for a new game.  The premise of the game is this... Pope Benedict XVI has died unexpectedly and the Cardinals have all been summoned back to Rome.  Each player who signs up to play, I think I will set the max at 40, will be a Cardinal... each will be assigned an age, a diocese (or other background, such as leader of Opus Dei, etc) and have to state their possition on various issues.  The objective will then be to elect a Pope from the group... I will have certain events occur during the conclave to influence events... I might also have to set up some additional "structure" rules which don't exist in the real election process.  I'll flesh out more of the details later.

Catholics and non-Catholics alike will be invited to play, and if there is a significant show of interest then I will have the issues possition questions up soon.

Basically, it will work kinda like Joe's old Primary game, except less labor intensive.

Okay... I had some inspiration while I was in the bath tub just now on how to lay this thing out.

In addition to what I have already stated...

Each player will be able to choose from a set of starting traits (much like Joe did with his Primary Game).  The choices will include, but not be limited to the following:

You will be able to choose whether or not you are a current member of the Roman Curia (the Vatican Beurocracy) or a pastoral bishop (in charge of a diocese somewhere around the world).  Members of the Curia will have an early advantage in the game (as I will eplain down the page), but pastoral bishops will have advantages if the conclave drags on.

You will be able to choose whether you come from a wealthy or poor country.  This will enhance your appeal to certain groups and factions in the game.

You will have the choice between being a European or a non-European.  This too will effect your appeal to certain factions in the game, depending (if you end up in Italy, you are almost sure to get the votes of Italian Cardinals right off the bat... at least for the first few rounds).  Note: This differs from the wealthy/poor country option in that you might end up an Eastern European Cardinal.

You can either be a scholar, or you can be a man of the people.

Finally, you will have the choice between older and expirienced, or younger and relatively inexpirienced.  Once again, both will come with advantages and disadvantages.

Aside from the players, there will be around twice as many cardinals who have votes in the game (for my sake, I'll try not to go nuts).  You will have to influence their in order to win.  Depending on your personal traits, some of them will be undying loyalists to your cause from the start, others will need to be convinced of your worthyness.  The first person to convince 2/3 of the conclave will be the winner.

Any player can choose to vote for any other player at any time during the game (and may switch their vote).  This is not a wasted vote, for the outcome of this game will directly effect the course of the next game (so if you are a young cardinal, you might want to support an older cardinal in order to advance your standing in the next game and hit the ground running.

Factions (as I mentioned before) are going to be a huge part of the game.  Each and every one of the made up cardinals will come with their own life story and own traits and each will be a member of at least one faction.  You can target each individually, or you can try to influence a Faction Leader who controls (at least partially) the votes of his faction.  Some of you might start out as Faction Leaders, though I will try to balance that out.

Factions themselves can be either geographicly (African), culturally (Latin America) or politically based and may also be organization inside and outside the official Church oversight (such as the Pius X Society, Jesuits or Opus Dei).

Hmmm... trying to think if there is anything else I want to mention.

[12th Doctor]

Any takers?

[12th Doctor]

Okay... I had some inspiration while I was in the bath tub just now on how to lay this thing out.

In addition to what I have already stated...

Each player will be able to choose from a set of starting traits (much like Joe did with his Primary Game).  The choices will include, but not be limited to the following:

You will be able to choose whether or not you are a current member of the Roman Curia (the Vatican Beurocracy) or a pastoral bishop (in charge of a diocese somewhere around the world).  Members of the Curia will have an early advantage in the game (as I will eplain down the page), but pastoral bishops will have advantages if the conclave drags on.

You will be able to choose whether you come from a wealthy or poor country.  This will enhance your appeal to certain groups and factions in the game.

You will have the choice between being a European or a non-European.  This too will effect your appeal to certain factions in the game, depending (if you end up in Italy, you are almost sure to get the votes of Italian Cardinals right off the bat... at least for the first few rounds).  Note: This differs from the wealthy/poor country option in that you might end up an Eastern European Cardinal.

You can either be a scholar, or you can be a man of the people.

Finally, you will have the choice between older and expirienced, or younger and relatively inexpirienced.  Once again, both will come with advantages and disadvantages.

Aside from the players, there will be around twice as many cardinals who have votes in the game (for my sake, I'll try not to go nuts).  You will have to influence their in order to win.  Depending on your personal traits, some of them will be undying loyalists to your cause from the start, others will need to be convinced of your worthyness.  The first person to convince 2/3 of the conclave will be the winner.

Any player can choose to vote for any other player at any time during the game (and may switch their vote).  This is not a wasted vote, for the outcome of this game will directly effect the course of the next game (so if you are a young cardinal, you might want to support an older cardinal in order to advance your standing in the next game and hit the ground running.

Factions (as I mentioned before) are going to be a huge part of the game.  Each and every one of the made up cardinals will come with their own life story and own traits and each will be a member of at least one faction.  You can target each individually, or you can try to influence a Faction Leader who controls (at least partially) the votes of his faction.  Some of you might start out as Faction Leaders, though I will try to balance that out.

Factions themselves can be either geographicly (African), culturally (Latin America) or politically based and may also be organization inside and outside the official Church oversight (such as the Pius X Society, Jesuits or Opus Dei).

Hmmm... trying to think if there is anything else I want to mention.

[12th Doctor]

Okay... I'm glad to see the interest from you guys.  I'm gonna shoot for 10 people before I start getting this kicked off.  I am working on the issue stance questions right now.  I should have those up by either later tonight or tomorrow.

[12th Doctor]

<~~~~ Next pope right here.

Excellent... that's 8... including Bono, who said he woud join.

[12th Doctor]

Alright guys, I'm working on both the questions and the offcial and expanded rules.  I should have them up soon.  I am impressed with the turnout thus far.

[12th Doctor]

Papal Conclave - 2007 Rules

1) General Rules

    A) Each player is a Cardinal of the Catholic Church
   
    B) Each player is, in theory, eligible to be elected Pope
   
    C) A player is elected Pope when 2/3 of the Cardinals (who will number from 50 or higher, depending on the number of players at the start of play) vote for him
   
    D) Similar to official Conclave rules, if Pope is not chosen by the end of the 35th Ballot then the majority required to elect a Pope will be lowered to 3/5
   
    E) Once a Cardinal has achieved the necessary majority, they will be ask if they accept (this is, of course, a formality, in this case).  Once they do, they will choose a Regal Name.  You may pick any name you like, but try to stick with something Papal or otherwise religious.  I’m not superstitions, but for reasons of respect and realism Peter II will not be an option.

2) The Players

   A) Each player will be allowed to choose between a series of personality traits and positions on issues of politics, faith and Church organization.  These answers will effect your Cardinals position at the start of the game (which I will assign to each player).  It will also effect which organizations your Cardinal is a member of, and which groups and individual Cardinals he enjoys appeal with.  Though I will try to balance all the traits, some will be better than others, depending on the direction the conclave.

   B) I will provide a brief synopsis of the career of each player.  After that, it will be your job to fill in the rest.  You will each get a paragraph (4-5 sentences) to describe your character.

   C) Each player gets one vote. They will be allowed to vote not only for themselves, but for any other player.

[12th Doctor]

3) The Election Process

   A) I will act as the Cardinal Dean for the entirety of the election, Pierre Cardinal LeCroix.  As he is currently 85 years of age, Cardinal LeCroix is neither eligible to vote, nor is he considered a serious candidate for the papacy (though he might receive a few scattered votes on the first ballot, as a “safe” choice).  Nor (as a deeply humble and spiritual man) will he try to influence the election in anyway.

   B) The first issue to be brought before the Cardinals is whether or not the Cardinals will be allowed to speak to the media.  This vote does take place in the real Conclave.  The votes of the other Cardinals will be made to reflect the choices of the players, though Liberal Cardinals will be more likely to vote in favor.  The choice of the Conclave will effect to what extent exterior events effect the Conclave and vice versa.

   C) If the Cardinals do choose to allow members of the College to speak to the Press, then players may try to influence the election by leaking information to the press and provoking a response from the outside world.  You may choose to make a positive statement to the press, in which you praise the process, or say something good about one of the other members (in these statements, you will always be named) or you may choose to make a negative, unnamed, statement about one of the other Cardinals, or leak a story to attempt to otherwise covertly influence the proceedings.  These statements will be sent to me, I will print them, and you will simply be mentioned as an “unnamed source in the Vatican”.  Please note that even positive statements run the risk of backfiring, as the public might react against your intent, and some Cardinals will always be suspicious of those who speak so freely and eagerly to the press.

D) If the Conclave chooses against allowing openness to the press, you might still leak information as an “unnamed source”.  There is, however, a 10% chance that you will be exposed.  In real life, this would result in automatic excommunication, however, in this game, it will merely severely damage your relationship with the other Cardinals, and almost any chance you have of being elected or influencing events in anyway will vanish.

Note: Some Cardinals will not be swayed by external events, regardless of how profound or Earth-shattering.

E) “E” is for EWTN.  The Eternal Word Television Network is the primary source on all things Catholic.  If you have any questions about anything that doesn’t seem clear to you, you may PM me.  Also, unlike the Cardinals, EWTN is not bound by the seal of confession and they might just know a thing or two about a Cardinal you are interested in influencing or trying to derail.  They will take one question about one Cardinal per ballot.  The question can be very general, such as “What about _______?” or specific.  Generally, the more specific the question, the more specific the answer.

F) The balloting will proceed as follows:
     1. The time leading up to the first balloting is spent in mass and prayer.  The Cardinals will be unable to influence one another.  The first ballot will be conducted purely from the strength of the individual candidates personality traits and to show everyone who stands where and with whom.

    2. Once the first ballot is concluded, that’s when the real fun will begin.  Each player will be allowed one speech or statement before the conclave, per ballot.  This statement can be about anything you want it to be, but must be limited to no more than 8 sentences, or about 25 lines of text.  You will also be allowed to influence individual Cardinals by speaking to them in person. 

Important: You may try to influence up to three standard Cardinals per turn (you may use all three on the same Cardinal, if you wish).  You do this by PMing me and telling me which Cardinals you would like to try to influence.  You then tell me what issues you would like to stress with each Cardinal.  These issues may include: personal traits, common backgrounds, issues (in general, not specifically... I will explain more on this later).  You may also want to discuss another player if you like (this is where EWTN might come in handy), and attempt to erode a cardinals support for them.

The other option you may be allowed to choose is to have a personal discussion with a recognized Faction Leader.  This will cause you to forfeit the chance to speak to other Cardinals during that turn, but winning over the leader of any faction is a giant coup for you and will likely cause almost all the Cardinals in that faction to switch their votes to you.  This process is conducted in the same way as attempting to win over individual Cardinals.

Any player may, of course, speak to any other player at anytime.

This process will be repeated for every single ballot.

G) Each Cardinals vote will be shown following the ballot.  In real life, it’s a secret ballot, but that would make things too difficult.  Players will announce their votes in the thread.

H) You win a cardinal over when their support for you reaches over 80%.  If there is more than one Cardinal over 80%, then that Cardinal will support the person whom they support more.  I won’t reveal the exact process of scoring.

Note: For the first few ballots, some Cardinals might vote for you by default... don’t make the mistake of thinking that their support will necessarily last, especially if the connection between you and them seems thin.  The higher profile your character is, the more lukewarm supporters you will start out with.  Lower profile characters will have few, if any to start out with, but can expect to gain momentum throughout the process, if they play their cards right.

I) After the first ballot, two ballots will be cast each day of the Conclave until a Pope is finally elected.  Note: No, these are not “days” in realtime... that is merely how the timetable will be organized.

J) The longer the Conclave continues, the more restless the outside world will become and the more likely it will become that an outside event will have considerable impact on the Conclave.

K) There is an incentive for you to vote for another Cardinal if your character lacks support in the later ballots.  The result of this Papal Conclave will directly impact the events of Papacy and, as such, the next conclave.  Voting for a winner might substantially boost your position at the start of the next conclave.  This is an especially good strategy if you are a younger Cardinal.

[12th Doctor]

4) Non-Player Cardinals

There will be several Cardinals in the game who will not be players (the number of which will be determined once I know how many players we will have, but the total number of Cardinals will be no more than 80).  I will create a profile for each, which will outline their position, organizations they are a member of, or aligned with, whether or not they are considered a Leader (or “Dean”) of a faction, etc. 

A) Their views on the issues will be divided into three separate areas: Theological, Political (which will be subdivided into Economic, Personal and International) and Structural.  Each ones views will be given as Conservative, Liberal or Moderate for each.  Don’t have time to tell you how each would answer all the questions you will answer.

B) Each will be given a small personal bio.  Use this to make decisions on how to influence them.  Some methods of influence will be implied through their personality and bio, and not explicitly stated (for instance, does this person have a mentor who is also a member of the College, etc).

C) Some non-player Cardinals (especially Faction Leaders) will receive votes in the first few rounds, or so.  This is merely an indication of that leaders strength and a show of the fact that the Cardinals voting for them have not found an adequate candidate amongst the players.  No non-player Cardinal can win.

Note: Some of you will start out with diehard supporters who will almost certainly not leave you during the process.

5) Factions

As I mentioned before in this thread, the factions will be derived from many different origins and concerns.  Not all factions should be valued the same.  Some will contain fewer Cardinals than others.  Some of them will be more ideologically cohesive than others (Opus Dei being a prime example).  Some will just be looser than others while some will start out strong but break up throughout the game if not properly maintained.  Some will be geographically oriented.

One does not need to be a member of a faction to win it over, and the majority of the members of the faction can be won over without the support of the faction leader.  Likewise, the support of a faction leader might bring in votes, but it will not necessarily suddenly make all members of that faction into supporters.

Any Cardinal can be a member of more than one faction, which will dilute his support for any one.  In other words, a Cardinal who belongs to four factions will only be effected a quarter as much if any one of them starts trending towards a player.

If a faction becomes split between two players for any reason, then the individual Cardinals will tend to fall in line with whichever player they have more in common with, or are otherwise more likely to support.

Members of a stronger faction will always be more likely to vote for players who have personal traits or issue stances they find favorable.  For instance, Jesuits will always be more inclined to vote for scholars who tend towards being more liberal, while Franciscans will be more like to vote for Men of the People who come from poorer lands.

So as not to give the entire store away, I will announce all the factions of the game, and their tendencies after each player has answered their questions.

I think that’s it.

[12th Doctor]

Personal Profiles

Name:

1) Are you a member of the Roman Curia, or a pastoral bishop.

[ ] The Curia:  Members of the Curia are well known, and will start out with
                       an early advantage.  They will also be more platable to other
                       members of the Curia, at least at first.  They might have a
                       hard time winning over Cardinals who are from outside of
                       Rome, however.
[ ] Pastoral Bishop:  Many will be lesser known, and not quite as well
                       connected, but they could pick up significant support as
                       the conclave proceeds.

2) Do you come from a wealthy or poor country.

[ ] Wealthy:   Chances are you will start out in higher standing, but will be
                      unlikely to garner support from those who orginate in the 3rd
                      World.

[ ] Poor:         You will arive with a lower profile, but have the potential to
                      win over considerable support, due to your background.

Note:  Members of the Curia may also be from the poorer regions of the world.  Also, some countries with significant regional income differences might be divided into seperate classes (such as Nothern and Southern Italy).

3) Are you European or non-European? (no explanation required)

[ ] European

[ ] non-European

Note:  For the Purpose of the game, Americans, Canadians, Australians, etc, are not classified as Europeans.  This group is for people who are strictly European.

4) Are you a Scholar or a "Man-of-the-people"?

[ ] Scholar:      Some groups and individuals prefer a more scholarly Pope

[ ] Man-of-the-People:  Where as some prefer one who is easier for the
                       average person to relate to.

5) Older or Younger?

[ ] Older

[ ] Younger

6) What's your ego like?

[ ] Humble and Quiet: People will preceive you as being more spiritual and
                        nurturing

[ ] Bombastic and Outspoke: People will precieve you as being more of a
                        "champion" and strong-willed

[12th Doctor]

And Finally... the Questions

Some of these questions might sound a bit repetetive, but each one has a different focus.

Check the one that is closest to your view:

Theological

1) The clearest path to Salvation is through

[ ] The Sacraments

[ ] Good works

[ ] Simple faith, like that of a child

[ ] Having a complex and  intimate understanding of one's faith

2) Marian Devotion and the Saints

[ ] Mary should be seen in the role of "co-redemptrix".  Not equal to Christ,
    but still playing an essential role in salvation.

[ ] Mary should be adored as the Mother of God and a powerful advocate
    for sinners, but lets not get carried away.

[ ] Catholics aren't supposed to "worship" Mary and the saints, but there
    are plenty who don't seem to know that.  We should place less
    emphasis on them, less people get confused and begin to pray someone
    other than God.

[ ] In the modern age it is fitting for us to stress a more personal relationship with God.
    Mary should be adored and the saints should be praised and looked up to, but people
    should be more willing to simply “take their problems” directly to God.

3) The mass

[ ] The mass should adhere to a strict protocol.  Things are done a certain way for a reason.
     We should go back to a Latin format.

[ ] Keep the mass as is.

[ ] The mass should be less formal.  More a celebration than a ritual.

4) The Modern Church has a responsibility to
[ ] Ensure social and economic justice.

[ ] Ensure the spiritual well being of its members.

5) The Church should work harder to reinforce the faith of

[ ] The community

[ ] The individual

6) Christian Reconciliation

[ ] All non-Catholics are heretics, to be damned in the eternal fires of Hell.  Why should we care
    about reconciliation?

[ ] Reconciliation with other Christian groups, particularly Orthodox groups, is desirable.
    As the one true faith, it should be on our terms, however.

[ ] The Church needs to breath with two lungs again.  We should work out our differences with
     the Orthodox faiths, and also seek to reincorporate the Church of England into the fold.

[ ] We should not actively seek reconciliation, as it is not necessary.  All Christians are brothers of
     one faith, even if we don’t agree on all the specifics.

Political

1) Which should be a higher priority for the Church?

[ ] To promote a message that emphasizes protecting life and condemning modern societies trend
     towards devaluing it.

[ ] To promote a sense of economic justice and basic equality for people all over the world,
     condemning those who exploit the labor of others.

[ ] I prefer an approach that balances the two.

2) View of globalization

[ ] Globalization is an important force for promoting basic rights and economic opportunity for all
     people.

[ ] Globalization exploits the weaker and poorer to the benefit of the stronger and wealthier.

3) What is your view on separation of Church and State

[ ] It is the duty of any good Catholic, whether a member of the clergy or a layperson, to make
    sure that the laws of their country uphold at least the most basic moral standards.  The Vatican
    should be vigorously involved in promoting moral standards for governments all over the world

[ ] Morality is a matter of individual choice.  The clergy should work to instill high moral
    standards in their parishioners, but the Church should not be involved in controlling the laws of
    world governments.

4) The “West” and the “Rest”

[ ] The West is the home of Christianity and is still the base of the Christian world.  The
     deterioration of Christian devotion in Europe is very worrisome.  How can Christianity
     continue to spread if the area that fostered it is no longer Christian?  We must focus on
     revitalizing Christianity in the West, especially in Europe.

[ ] Catholicism is blossoming in many countries that are not traditionally Christian.  While we
     Should not place the majority of attention on Africa and Asia, we should change are thinking
     to a moral global mind set.

[ ] The West must learn to be more responsible with its power, especially the United States.  All
     to often, Third World countries, where many poor Christians live, are exploited by these
    Westerners who have clearly lost their way to greed and materialism.  Maybe we should send      missionaries from the rest of the World to remind the West of what they have become.  Either
    way, the Church’s focus should be on the Developing World.

5)Are other faiths "valid"?

[ ] No.  Catholicism is the only valid faith.  Salvation can only be found
    through the sacraments.

[ ] Validation comes through belief in Christ.  All Christian faiths are valid.

[ ] Christianity, Islam and Judaism are valid, as they all believe in the one
    God variously called Yahweh, Allah or simply "Lord".

[ ] Any faith that holds true to the spirit of love and brotherhood expressed
    by Jesus Christ is valid.  All good people will know Christ is death, if not in
    life.

Structure

1) Which most closely matches your view?

[ ] Many of the changes made by Vatican II seem to have robbed the Church of much of its moral
    authority.  The striping of power away from the hands of the clergy and into the hands of lay      people has been, on the whole, bad for the theological and structural cohesion of the Church.       It is hard for the Church to say anything without being challenged, and people have only
    become more bold with their challenges.  In the mean time, it hasn’t done much for Church
    attendance, as many people have started to think that if “it isn’t that important, then why
    bother”.  Clergy, bishops and the Pope need to take back the moral authority to tell people how
    it is.  People need discipline and direction in faith.

[ ] Vatican II was a good step towards further devolution of the Church.  Faith can’t be a “one-      size-fits-all” matter.  People are different.  Would we rather have more people feel included, or      turn more people away.  Lay organizations such as Parish councils also give people more stake in their parish community and helps them feel more involved in their parish and their own faith.  I don’t want a Church with no authority, just one that isn’t so strictly institutionalized, one that feels less like an organization and more like a faith community.

[12th Doctor]

Reserved

[12th Doctor]

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[12th Doctor]

Questions are up 

Sorry if they seem a little simplistic, but I just wanted to get a taste of each persons views, plus, I didn't want the players to have to have a degree in Catholic theology to play.

[12th Doctor]

Is there anymore room for me to play?

Is it too late or can I join? This seems like fun.

Both of you are still welcome to join.

[12th Doctor]

Also, no one seems to be picking the non-European option... I might have to place so of you in other areas.

[12th Doctor]

As you can see I'm basically creating the dark-horse liberation theology loving economic justice supporting Latin American candidate.

Yeah, I was going to make a comment to that regard.  Well, the conclave certainly needs one.  We also need a dyed in the wool conservative who thinks Pius X was the last truely great Pope.  No takers yet, though.

[12th Doctor]

As you can see I'm basically creating the dark-horse liberation theology loving economic justice supporting Latin American candidate.

Yeah, I was going to make a comment to that regard.  Well, the conclave certainly needs one.  We also need a dyed in the wool conservative who thinks Pius X was the last truely great Pope.  No takers yet, though.

For my own knowledge, perhaps soulty can give a summary of the candidates thus far...

I'm not looking for a thesis or anything, a sentence (or two) should suffice.

Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you are requesting.

[12th Doctor]

My name:  Eugen Cardinal von Frick, President of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity.

(If I wasn't a cardinal, I'd be Eugen Freiherr von Frick)

LOL... I can't believe it.  That's the post I have you in.

Trying to be a Walter Kasper, knock off? 

[12th Doctor]

As you can see I'm basically creating the dark-horse liberation theology loving economic justice supporting Latin American candidate.

Yeah, I was going to make a comment to that regard.  Well, the conclave certainly needs one.  We also need a dyed in the wool conservative who thinks Pius X was the last truely great Pope.  No takers yet, though.

For my own knowledge, perhaps soulty can give a summary of the candidates thus far...

I'm not looking for a thesis or anything, a sentence (or two) should suffice.

Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you are requesting.

Well I'm sure you'll tell us more about ourselves later, but perhaps you can give a brief statement about where the candidates thus far stand ideologically...who's most liberal all the way to most conservative.

Hmmm... the odd thing is that no one really jumps out as being all one way or all the other right now.  On the whole Verin is probably the most conservative Cardinal right now with Colin being the most liberal.

[12th Doctor]

When does this start? I would like to play but I won't have time to do anything until next week.

We are probably not going to be rolling for another couple of days, even then, each vote will take at least a couple days, I'm sure.  You'll have time.

[12th Doctor]

My name:  Eugen Cardinal von Frick, President of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity.

(If I wasn't a cardinal, I'd be Eugen Freiherr von Frick)

LOL... I can't believe it.  That's the post I have you in.

Trying to be a Walter Kasper, knock off? 

Not quite.  I wanted someone who was exposed to Kung, but not necessarily a supporter.  I wanted someone with an aristocratic and scholarly background; Kasper doesn't have the former.  I looked at Curia posts and found that one likely.

So you were going for a kind of Kasper/Schonborn hybrid?

[12th Doctor]

Thanks Yates.  I was looking for someone to fill the post that I am going to put you in.  You might want to change your name to something a bit more African sounding, though 

[12th Doctor]

Application cut off is going to be 12:01 PM tomorrw EST.  If there are any late entries, please feel free to join up.

I am currently creating character profiles, so if you haven't given me a name for your character yet, please do so ASAP.

How this will work is I will send each of you your profile and a couple of sentences on your character.  You may then add whatever info you like, but keep it brief, please.  You won't all get yours at the same time, I will send them out as a complete them.

Once each one of you has turned I will post them all up for everyone to see at the same time.  I will likely create a seperate thread for the proceedings.  I will also have each Cardinals profile up and available, along with info you will need for the important organizations and groups.

Okay... that's that, I think.

[12th Doctor]

All the profiles should be done by the end of tomorrow.  Thanks for your patience.