Australia General Discussion

[Hifly]

Policy adviser

Yeh you guys probably wouldn't have seen eye to eye.
Are you also a member of a local ALP branch?

[Hifly]

Same-Sex Marriage has been defeated 21-19 in the NSW Legislative Council with the help of Labor MPs.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/same-sex-marriage-bill-narrowly-fails-in-nsw-upper-house/story-fn59niix-1226759868692

[Hifly]

The Libs still may win the Griffith by election, especially if the union-backed Social Conservative whom I like is preselected for Labor. The selection is next weekend.

[Hifly]

Ok

[Hifly]

How many Labor Unity faction members can there be in that seat? It's a tiny faction. Labor Forum usually rules the roost.

[Hifly]

With God's blessing, Yvette D'Ath will win this (and comfortably)!

[Hifly]

With God's blessing, Yvette D'Ath will win this (and comfortably)!

If the ALP can't win this seat back, regardless of the candidate, they might as well give up.

Wel, it's because of GAY MARRIAGE, GAY MARRIAGE, GAY MARRIAGE!

The Labor candidate does not support gay marriage

[Hifly]

D'ath voted one way in 2012 as did all QLD MPs ... not her personal views

Where on earth do you get your information from?!? I've asked you this before as you really do come up with pretty outlandish statements. Firstly, not all 8 QLD Labor MPs in the last parliament voted against gay marriage (because it was a conscience vote) and another two came out personally in favour just before the election. However, D'Ath has never personally expressed support for gay marriage.

[Hifly]

Also, I don't think it had been mentioned that Joe de Bruyn will be stepping down as Secretary of the SDA this year, and from the ALP National Executive next year.

[Hifly]

Also, I don't think it had been mentioned that Joe de Bruyn will be stepping down as Secretary of the SDA this year, and from the ALP National Executive next year.

He will be replaced by someone just as socially conservative don't you worry

[Hifly]

So Lab's leading WA Senate candidate has a criminal record for assault. If a background check was done, why no veto?

Because he is a good union leader and he deserves the seat. Also remember that the SDA is like the largest donor to the party. This isn't the only time that candidates have been found to have a criminal record (one of Labor's successful candidates in SA last month also had a criminal record for assaulting a police officer) but it's not a major incident and it has no relevance whatsoever in how he will perform in the senate.

[Hifly]

Labor may have effectively already lost Macedon by parachuting in an outsider left wing candidate who doesn't have any support in the local branches (90% of local members signed a petition against her and sent it off to the admin. committee) and they're refusing to campaign for her.

[Hifly]

Labor may have effectively already lost Macedon by parachuting in an outsider left wing candidate who doesn't have any support in the local branches (90% of local members signed a petition against her and sent it off to the admin. committee) and they're refusing to campaign for her.

The issue isn't than the candidate is left-wing. It's than the left and right factions divide the seats between them and the candidate than the local branch selected belongs is opposed to factions. So, both factions opposed it. It's more a pro-factions/pro-members fight.

Christian Zahra (who has 90% support in local branches) is a right faction member. The seat is assigned to the left faction, which meant the admin committee imposed a left wing candidate on the locals who has no support, and they've made a massive public fuss over it. Thomas is the woman to lose the seat.

[Hifly]

Labor has another big problem which is that the redistribution has been incredibly unfavourable to them. A total of 5 current Labor seats have been made notionally Liberal for this election, making their job even harder.

[Hifly]

The Western Australia Labor Party has voted unanimously to expel Martin Ferguson from the party. Martin Ferguson is not happy.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/23681651/wa-labor-a-national-disgrace

[Hifly]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

[Hifly]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

Reporting my posts isn't going to help you because literally everyone who's paying attention knows about you. The fact that you did report it speaks volumes.
This post is not a Personal Attack.*

* it looks as if I'm going to have to post this clarification in every single one of my replies to you so you get the message. Also, is saying "**** off" to me not a personal attack?

[Hifly]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

The only people made happy by these self-inflicted wounds are social regressives like Hifly.

It doesn't help the vote, at all, in fact, it hurts it and the ALP not going back to being a backwards party... despite the valiant attempts to lose elections from people like Hifly who want the party to be dragged back to the days of Santamaria.

I don't how anyone could justify the inclusion of Amanda Fazio on the Labor ticket. She's been replaced by a talented young individual called Courtney Houssos from Country Labor. Only God knows why Fazio was Right Faction member because her stances on issues are quite extraordinary.

[Hifly]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

Reporting my posts isn't going to help you because literally everyone who's paying attention knows about you. The fact that you did report it speaks volumes.
This post is not a Personal Attack.*

* it looks as if I'm going to have to post this clarification in every single one of my replies to you so you get the message. Also, is saying "**** off" to me not a personal attack?

What are you even talking about?

Do you want me to repost the post you got deleted or is the topic too sensitive for you to handle?

[Hifly]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

The only people made happy by these self-inflicted wounds are social regressives like Hifly.

It doesn't help the vote, at all, in fact, it hurts it and the ALP not going back to being a backwards party... despite the valiant attempts to lose elections from people like Hifly who want the party to be dragged back to the days of Santamaria.

I don't how anyone could justify the inclusion of Amanda Fazio on the Labor ticket. She's been replaced by a talented young individual called Courtney Houssos from Country Labor. Only God knows why Fazio was Right Faction member because her stances on issues are quite extraordinary.

You're making the HUGE mistake of thinking right-faction = social conservative... I'm actually in the party and especially for those under 50, are pretty much in agreement on most social issues, it's economics and to a lesser extent foreign policy that are the dividing factors. Social policy matters to some, of course, but there isn't a "you're a member of the right faction, therefore you believe in x, x, x, x"

Labor does not grant free votes on issues of foreign policy and economics (which are decided at Conference and behind closed doors) and so the legislative differences between candidates revolves around social issues. Social views have mattered in preselections; You know that the SDA is pretty adamant about getting conservative candidates preselected and even for the NSW senate vacancy last year caused by Carr's retirement Paul Howes did say that if he held a different opinion on gay marriage things may have turned out differently.
Fazio is just weird.

[Hifly]

There are still people who don't have the troll on ignore?

Putting me on ignore is a good thing because it means I will no longer get silly responses to my posts by certain individuals like Solopop.

[Hifly]

The latest Newspoll for NSW State Election voting intentions is out, and Premier Mike Baird is maintaining a landslide lead over John Robertson.

2PP:
Coalition: 57% (-1)
Labor: 43% (+1)

This still represents a 7% swing to Labor since the last election.
http://m.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/premier-mike-baird-maintains-libs-landslide-lead-in-nsw/story-e6frgczx-1226982239372

[Hifly]

The NSW Labor conference has voted to abolish the Socialist objective, to support a 50:50 caucus to membership method of electing the state party leader, and to reject John Faulkner's preselection reforms, thankfully.

[Hifly]

The polls were tightening in Victoria and now Labor and Daniel Andrews are embroiled in a sandal. It would be hilarious if they lost an unloseable election.

Solopop in which electorate do you vote? Are you voting Labor?

[Hifly]

Yesterday going to school outside of Glenferrie Station I was abused by a John Roskam supporter, expect the Hawthorn pre-selection process to get ugly if more people get in. It's going to expose the massive divide in Vic Liberals.

As you are well past schoolboy age I am assuming this means you work at the school?