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Old Man Svensson
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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2013, 07:15:56 PM »

The Liberal Party stands in support of free trade agreements. We believe that international cooperation in the marketplace can lead to peace and prosperity at home and abroad. We understand that Atlasia has a critical role in the global economy. We believe that trade agreements can improve labor and environmental standards abroad. Atlasia's trade policy should benefit consumers and workers, not just the largest multinational corporations.

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Seems a solid slate of agreement to me. I'd say we all seem to stand for basic personal liberty as well...although possibly to varying degrees. Tongue
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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2013, 10:47:27 PM »

sounds pretty good. a suggested addition:
The Liberal Party stands in support of free trade agreements. We believe that international cooperation in the marketplace can lead to peace and prosperity at home and abroad. We understand that Atlasia has a critical role in the global economy. We believe that trade agreements can improve labor and environmental standards abroad. Atlasia's trade policy should benefit consumers and workers, small businesses and cooperatives, not just the largest multinational corporations.
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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2013, 11:05:31 PM »

sounds pretty good. a suggested addition:
The Liberal Party stands in support of free trade agreements. We believe that international cooperation in the marketplace can lead to peace and prosperity at home and abroad. We understand that Atlasia has a critical role in the global economy. We believe that trade agreements can improve labor and environmental standards abroad. Atlasia's trade policy should benefit consumers and workers, small businesses and cooperatives, not just the largest multinational corporations.

Excellent!

What about welfare? I think we should support the status quo but are there any areas where we don't?
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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2013, 08:08:34 PM »

Bump

I motion we replace Spenstar with Wyodon on the committee.

I stand ready to serve.
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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2013, 10:30:06 PM »

Bump

I motion we replace Spenstar with Wyodon on the committee.

Motion seconded.
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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2013, 11:38:07 PM »


I'm all for that, but there should probably be a vote by the full party conference. 

What about welfare? I think we should support the status quo but are there any areas where we don't?

I think we should support not being attached to the status quo. As in, being willing to reform and not make any program into a sacred cow.
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« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2013, 10:19:48 PM »

I would suggest talking about Financial Markets and how we adress Wall Street Regulations!
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« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2013, 08:00:23 AM »

I'll be happy to help out if I can here in the northeast or otherwise, first off. I've not done a lot of platform or committee work, but here's a vague start.

As far as the platform goes, I like a couple of ideas I have seen floating around:

*A gradated minimum wage increase, such as proposed by Sbane, looks quite reasonable. If that one is too aggressive, then we could temper it a bit because one that is too aggressive will absolutely have a negative impact on small business.
*I'm not sure what the workweek is in terms of established length, but how about debating this a bit?
*Paid vacation in weeks?
*Green energy programs?

A few of my ideas:
*I oppose "faith" exemptions, generally, for companies and religious institutions because I see them as violating the establishment clause, but also because I view religious exemptions as a slippery slope.
*I think the separation of Church and State should be rather rigid.
*How to amend the Constitution and issues of centrality are being fairly hotly debated - coming up with a position on this might be a good idea. I happen to think it should be a fairly difficult thing to do to amend the Constitution.
*Privacy: I believe the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy. How far does it extend and how does it affect the workplace? As A.G. I think what happens outside the workplace, for instance, is no one's business until it affects one's ability to do his or her job.
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« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2013, 08:37:21 AM »

*I'm not sure what the workweek is in terms of established length, but how about debating this a bit?

The Atlasian workweek is 32 hours. I discovered last fall that many Atlasians don't realize this when I brought it up while arguing against the minimum wage decrease that eventually became law.

Oh, okay, I think then that that's pretty progressive. That's just short of a 6 1/2 hour day minus any work people take home, and to be fair a lot of white collar workers do take work home. So that seems fine unless someone wanted to go for 30, but I wouldn't support below that. Thirty-two sounds good, but a gradated rise in the minimum wage I fully support. Also, if the workweek is too short, that's going to hurt lower income people, I would think, or non-salaried people.
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« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2013, 01:06:27 PM »
« Edited: April 06, 2013, 01:10:08 PM by windjammer »

It will be a stupid question, but what is the signification of populism in America (in France: far-right and far-left who have a simple programm to win many votes)?

I oppose a balanced budget amendment, I know that we are all different about economic issues but killing any politic of reflation by the constitution isn't a good thing according to me. Most of us are fiscally centrist, not fiscally conservative!
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« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2013, 03:37:05 PM »

since two of the committee members have left the party, and at least one other seems to be absent from Atlasia, we may have to elect a new committee once things settle down a bit.
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« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2013, 04:17:31 PM »

We should be against the usage of the word "marriage" for legal purpose. The Atlasian Government should be only responsible for Civil Unions (women-men, men-men and women-women). The word Marriage has a strong religious value to many people and the Government shouldn't be responsible for performing this kind of tasks.
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« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2013, 05:40:48 PM »

I thought this over and I'm not going to be an asshole abandoning the ship.
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« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2013, 10:29:15 PM »

I thought this over and I'm not going to be an asshole abandoning the ship.

What do you mean?
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« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2013, 09:17:37 AM »

Hello y'all !

I don't think it's the right place to do that, but all your threads are locked so it's really the only one I could get in touch with you.

In the light of the launch of the Progressive Caucus recently, I think it is in the left and the centre-left's best interest to work closely together. I would thus like to formally ask for your endorsement in the upcoming election to the exectuive position presently known as "Emperor" deep down here in the South.

As there ain't much Liberals here in the South that I know of, at least not holding offices, I haven't had much chance working with your party, but I'm sure if I would we would stand on the same side on a broad majority of issues.

My opponent in this race had a brief time in your ranks recently, but he seems to have a heck of a hard time finding his political affiliation. He is trying hard building the image of me as a sovietic communist with a knife between my teeth, but really this persona doesn't correspond to the actual record of my legislative work in the South.

One of my main goals to achieve if I'm elected in this office is to rebuild the whole Southern Constitution, to end the Imperial Dominion on this region, while still keeping some kind of specificity to reflect this region's awesomeness.

I can direct you to my office if you want to know me a bit better, but I can answer any question here or anywhere you see fit.

Thanks for your attention.
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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2013, 09:26:22 AM »
« Edited: April 10, 2013, 09:28:18 AM by Marnetmar »

I propose that we should put emphasis on science and scientific projects in our platform such as nuclear energy, space exploration, etc.
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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2013, 09:27:47 AM »

I propose that we should put emphasis on science and scientific projects in our platform such as nuclear energy, space exploration, etc.

I would support that. In my time here I have promoted heavy investment in education specific to the maths and sciences.
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« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2013, 09:36:54 AM »
« Edited: April 10, 2013, 09:44:30 AM by Marnetmar »

Hello y'all !

I don't think it's the right place to do that, but all your threads are locked so it's really the only one I could get in touch with you.

In the light of the launch of the Progressive Caucus recently, I think it is in the left and the centre-left's best interest to work closely together. I would thus like to formally ask for your endorsement in the upcoming election to the exectuive position presently known as "Emperor" deep down here in the South.

As there ain't much Liberals here in the South that I know of, at least not holding offices, I haven't had much chance working with your party, but I'm sure if I would we would stand on the same side on a broad majority of issues.

My opponent in this race had a brief time in your ranks recently, but he seems to have a heck of a hard time finding his political affiliation. He is trying hard building the image of me as a sovietic communist with a knife between my teeth, but really this persona doesn't correspond to the actual record of my legislative work in the South.

One of my main goals to achieve if I'm elected in this office is to rebuild the whole Southern Constitution, to end the Imperial Dominion on this region, while still keeping some kind of specificity to reflect this region's awesomeness.

I can direct you to my office if you want to know me a bit better, but I can answer any question here or anywhere you see fit.

Thanks for your attention.

I'm not sure if this would work well. Part of the liberal party's aim is to promote political moderation, and the liberal and labor parties are far apart enough on economics that it may result in more bickering than cooperation. However, this is only my two cents, I could be completely wrong Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2013, 01:21:43 PM »

Hello y'all !

I don't think it's the right place to do that, but all your threads are locked so it's really the only one I could get in touch with you.

In the light of the launch of the Progressive Caucus recently, I think it is in the left and the centre-left's best interest to work closely together. I would thus like to formally ask for your endorsement in the upcoming election to the exectuive position presently known as "Emperor" deep down here in the South.

As there ain't much Liberals here in the South that I know of, at least not holding offices, I haven't had much chance working with your party, but I'm sure if I would we would stand on the same side on a broad majority of issues.

My opponent in this race had a brief time in your ranks recently, but he seems to have a heck of a hard time finding his political affiliation. He is trying hard building the image of me as a sovietic communist with a knife between my teeth, but really this persona doesn't correspond to the actual record of my legislative work in the South.

One of my main goals to achieve if I'm elected in this office is to rebuild the whole Southern Constitution, to end the Imperial Dominion on this region, while still keeping some kind of specificity to reflect this region's awesomeness.

I can direct you to my office if you want to know me a bit better, but I can answer any question here or anywhere you see fit.

Thanks for your attention.

I'm not sure if this would work well. Part of the liberal party's aim is to promote political moderation, and the liberal and labor parties are far apart enough on economics that it may result in more bickering than cooperation. However, this is only my two cents, I could be completely wrong Smiley


Yes but I think that many of us are slighty progressive on the economic issue. I don't really know the situation but your opponent seems to use desinformation against you, so an endorsement could be put on the table according to me. What do you think my fellow liberals?
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« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2013, 01:26:20 PM »

Yes but I think that many of us are slighty progressive on the economic issue. I don't really know the situation but your opponent seems to use desinformation against you, so an endorsement could be put on the table according to me. What do you think my fellow liberals?

Backing up your assertions with, y'know, facts, would be a nice touch.
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« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2013, 01:34:52 PM »

Yes but I think that many of us are slighty progressive on the economic issue. I don't really know the situation but your opponent seems to use desinformation against you, so an endorsement could be put on the table according to me. What do you think my fellow liberals?

Backing up your assertions with, y'know, facts, would be a nice touch.

I'm not american but I think that this words "seems, could,..." show that I'm ignorant on this situation. When I read 'he tries to connect me with bolchevism", I think it's desinformation. So please, keep your calm, I haven't endorsed your opponent, I just say that it could be "put on the table" to know more this situation. (sorry for my spelling mistakes).
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« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2013, 01:42:40 PM »
« Edited: April 10, 2013, 01:51:46 PM by SJoyce »

Yes but I think that many of us are slighty progressive on the economic issue. I don't really know the situation but your opponent seems to use desinformation against you, so an endorsement could be put on the table according to me. What do you think my fellow liberals?

Backing up your assertions with, y'know, facts, would be a nice touch.

I'm not american but I think that this words "seems, could,..." show that I'm ignorant on this situation. When I read 'he tries to connect me with bolchevism", I think it's desinformation. So please, keep your calm, I haven't endorsed your opponent, I just say that it could be "put on the table" to know more this situation. (sorry for my spelling mistakes).

I certainly agree that if I accused my opponent of Bolshevism it would be disinformation. However, I haven't done so. My campaign thread is here, and I'd welcome y'all to examine my record and the policies I've proposed to fully determine which one is a better fit for your party.
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« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2013, 07:13:40 AM »

Well, you accused me of hysteria. That's a fact. That's accusing your opponent of being mad just for being, y'know, your opponent...
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