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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2018, 07:21:24 PM »

Ah who cares. If they are breaking our immigration laws, they have to go.

Remember. NO MORE. Enough is enough. They had thirty years to di*k around. Time to go.
Nazi Germany would be perfect for you.

Do leftists have any other card to play?

ICE wants to get certain non-citizens out. Nazi Germany devoted enormous resources to ensure that no "undesirables" could leave and avoid the horrible fate that was planned for them.

Our dead are not your rhetorical prop. Stop it.
ICE is sending away people that have lived here for over 30 years to a country they don't know after they contributed so much to America. I call that un-American. Also a lot of the ICE agents are clearly racist so your fake outrage is getting tiresome.

You didn't address my points at all, and your coldblooded dismissal of Jewish voices is noted.
Oh I'm anti-Semitic then? I wonder if Jewish Americans agree with what ICE is doing and don't see a parallel to 1930s Germany....hmmm I really wonder.

Countless countries have had harsh immigration laws and deported people in much larger numbers, including citizens. Only one country sealed its borders with the goal of exterminating entire populations.

Do you think the United States is gearing up to exterminate minority populations en masse? If not, Nazi comparisons are wholly inappropriate and offensive.
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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2018, 07:47:08 PM »

Ah who cares. If they are breaking our immigration laws, they have to go.

Remember. NO MORE. Enough is enough. They had thirty years to di*k around. Time to go.
Nazi Germany would be perfect for you.

Do leftists have any other card to play?

ICE wants to get certain non-citizens out. Nazi Germany devoted enormous resources to ensure that no "undesirables" could leave and avoid the horrible fate that was planned for them.

Our dead are not your rhetorical prop. Stop it.
ICE is sending away people that have lived here for over 30 years to a country they don't know after they contributed so much to America. I call that un-American. Also a lot of the ICE agents are clearly racist so your fake outrage is getting tiresome.

You didn't address my points at all, and your coldblooded dismissal of Jewish voices is noted.
Oh I'm anti-Semitic then? I wonder if Jewish Americans agree with what ICE is doing and don't see a parallel to 1930s Germany....hmmm I really wonder.

Countless countries have had harsh immigration laws and deported people in much larger numbers, including citizens. Only one country sealed its borders with the goal of exterminating entire populations.

Do you think the United States is gearing up to exterminate minority populations en masse? If not, Nazi comparisons are wholly inappropriate and offensive.
We should have harsh immigration laws like other right-wing countries and if you dare criticize YOUR the one being offensive. First of all you need to get your priorities in check, immigration is not as big of a problem as politicians paint it as. Obama was terrible on the issue and deported more people than any other president up to that point and yet Conservatives still criticized him. Second, you need to realize how tough laws are in America and applying for citizenship can take years and years. The opportunity to get a citizenship has been made tougher over the years and that's why laws are being broken.
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2018, 07:55:14 PM »

Ah who cares. If they are breaking our immigration laws, they have to go.

Remember. NO MORE. Enough is enough. They had thirty years to di*k around. Time to go.
Nazi Germany would be perfect for you.

Do leftists have any other card to play?

ICE wants to get certain non-citizens out. Nazi Germany devoted enormous resources to ensure that no "undesirables" could leave and avoid the horrible fate that was planned for them.

Our dead are not your rhetorical prop. Stop it.
ICE is sending away people that have lived here for over 30 years to a country they don't know after they contributed so much to America. I call that un-American. Also a lot of the ICE agents are clearly racist so your fake outrage is getting tiresome.

You didn't address my points at all, and your coldblooded dismissal of Jewish voices is noted.
Oh I'm anti-Semitic then? I wonder if Jewish Americans agree with what ICE is doing and don't see a parallel to 1930s Germany....hmmm I really wonder.

Countless countries have had harsh immigration laws and deported people in much larger numbers, including citizens. Only one country sealed its borders with the goal of exterminating entire populations.

Do you think the United States is gearing up to exterminate minority populations en masse? If not, Nazi comparisons are wholly inappropriate and offensive.
We should have harsh immigration laws like other right-wing countries and if you dare criticize YOUR the one being offensive. First of all you need to get your priorities in check, immigration is not as big of a problem as politicians paint it as. Obama was terrible on the issue and deported more people than any other president up to that point and yet Conservatives still criticized him. Second, you need to realize how tough laws are in America and applying for citizenship can take years and years. The opportunity to get a citizenship has been made tougher over the years and that's why laws are being broken.

There's room to disagree on immigration law like reasonable people without resorting to incitement like Nazi comparisons. And you still haven't explained at all how tough immigration laws are equivalent to extermination of minority populations.
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2018, 01:42:54 AM »

Ah who cares. If they are breaking our immigration laws, they have to go.

Remember. NO MORE. Enough is enough. They had thirty years to di*k around. Time to go.
Nazi Germany would be perfect for you.

Do leftists have any other card to play?

ICE wants to get certain non-citizens out. Nazi Germany devoted enormous resources to ensure that no "undesirables" could leave and avoid the horrible fate that was planned for them.

Our dead are not your rhetorical prop. Stop it.
ICE is sending away people that have lived here for over 30 years to a country they don't know after they contributed so much to America. I call that un-American. Also a lot of the ICE agents are clearly racist so your fake outrage is getting tiresome.

You didn't address my points at all, and your coldblooded dismissal of Jewish voices is noted.
Oh I'm anti-Semitic then? I wonder if Jewish Americans agree with what ICE is doing and don't see a parallel to 1930s Germany....hmmm I really wonder.

Countless countries have had harsh immigration laws and deported people in much larger numbers, including citizens. Only one country sealed its borders with the goal of exterminating entire populations.

Do you think the United States is gearing up to exterminate minority populations en masse? If not, Nazi comparisons are wholly inappropriate and offensive.
We should have harsh immigration laws like other right-wing countries and if you dare criticize YOUR the one being offensive. First of all you need to get your priorities in check, immigration is not as big of a problem as politicians paint it as. Obama was terrible on the issue and deported more people than any other president up to that point and yet Conservatives still criticized him. Second, you need to realize how tough laws are in America and applying for citizenship can take years and years. The opportunity to get a citizenship has been made tougher over the years and that's why laws are being broken.

There's room to disagree on immigration law like reasonable people
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2018, 02:43:33 AM »

Ah who cares. If they are breaking our immigration laws, they have to go.

Remember. NO MORE. Enough is enough. They had thirty years to di*k around. Time to go.
Nazi Germany would be perfect for you.

Do leftists have any other card to play?

ICE wants to get certain non-citizens out. Nazi Germany devoted enormous resources to ensure that no "undesirables" could leave and avoid the horrible fate that was planned for them.

Our dead are not your rhetorical prop. Stop it.
ICE is sending away people that have lived here for over 30 years to a country they don't know after they contributed so much to America. I call that un-American. Also a lot of the ICE agents are clearly racist so your fake outrage is getting tiresome.

You didn't address my points at all, and your coldblooded dismissal of Jewish voices is noted.
Oh I'm anti-Semitic then? I wonder if Jewish Americans agree with what ICE is doing and don't see a parallel to 1930s Germany....hmmm I really wonder.

Countless countries have had harsh immigration laws and deported people in much larger numbers, including citizens. Only one country sealed its borders with the goal of exterminating entire populations.

Do you think the United States is gearing up to exterminate minority populations en masse? If not, Nazi comparisons are wholly inappropriate and offensive.
We should have harsh immigration laws like other right-wing countries and if you dare criticize YOUR the one being offensive. First of all you need to get your priorities in check, immigration is not as big of a problem as politicians paint it as. Obama was terrible on the issue and deported more people than any other president up to that point and yet Conservatives still criticized him. Second, you need to realize how tough laws are in America and applying for citizenship can take years and years. The opportunity to get a citizenship has been made tougher over the years and that's why laws are being broken.

Current United States immigration law is not tough by the standards of other first world countries. To say otherwise is either ignorant or a lie. Your own country Canada has much tougher laws than the United States. In fact, the immigration policies advocated by Trump (which the media regularly calls "Draconian") are actually very similar to the laws Canada already has. The reason we have so much illegal immigration is not because our laws are harsh (the United States is actually one of the easiest first world countries to legally immigrate to) the reason we have so much illegal immigration is because we are a first world country that shares a gigantic border with a third world country.
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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2018, 08:55:45 AM »

Ah who cares. If they are breaking our immigration laws, they have to go.

Remember. NO MORE. Enough is enough. They had thirty years to di*k around. Time to go.
Nazi Germany would be perfect for you.

Do leftists have any other card to play?

ICE wants to get certain non-citizens out. Nazi Germany devoted enormous resources to ensure that no "undesirables" could leave and avoid the horrible fate that was planned for them.

Our dead are not your rhetorical prop. Stop it.
ICE is sending away people that have lived here for over 30 years to a country they don't know after they contributed so much to America. I call that un-American. Also a lot of the ICE agents are clearly racist so your fake outrage is getting tiresome.

You didn't address my points at all, and your coldblooded dismissal of Jewish voices is noted.
Oh I'm anti-Semitic then? I wonder if Jewish Americans agree with what ICE is doing and don't see a parallel to 1930s Germany....hmmm I really wonder.

Countless countries have had harsh immigration laws and deported people in much larger numbers, including citizens. Only one country sealed its borders with the goal of exterminating entire populations.

Do you think the United States is gearing up to exterminate minority populations en masse? If not, Nazi comparisons are wholly inappropriate and offensive.
We should have harsh immigration laws like other right-wing countries and if you dare criticize YOUR the one being offensive. First of all you need to get your priorities in check, immigration is not as big of a problem as politicians paint it as. Obama was terrible on the issue and deported more people than any other president up to that point and yet Conservatives still criticized him. Second, you need to realize how tough laws are in America and applying for citizenship can take years and years. The opportunity to get a citizenship has been made tougher over the years and that's why laws are being broken.

Current United States immigration law is not tough by the standards of other first world countries. To say otherwise is either ignorant or a lie. Your own country Canada has much tougher laws than the United States. In fact, the immigration policies advocated by Trump (which the media regularly calls "Draconian") are actually very similar to the laws Canada already has. The reason we have so much illegal immigration is not because our laws are harsh (the United States is actually one of the easiest first world countries to legally immigrate to) the reason we have so much illegal immigration is because we are a first world country that shares a gigantic border with a third world country.

Being shot in the shoulder isn't harsh compared to being shot in the heart. We also have a massive economy and a long tradition of immigration(and being racist towards those immigrants).
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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2018, 10:19:01 AM »

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This is disingenuous and oversimplifies the problem. Mexico is classified as having high human development. True, it may not be as high as the United States or Canada, but you’re missing the point. A lot of illegal immigration is driven by people coming from Central America through Mexico. Cooperating with Mexican authorities and helping support their own border security is crucial.
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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2018, 05:16:01 PM »

Good. Fascism must be resisted, 100%.
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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2018, 08:28:56 PM »

Current United States immigration law is not tough by the standards of other first world countries. To say otherwise is either ignorant or a lie. Your own country Canada has much tougher laws than the United States. In fact, the immigration policies advocated by Trump (which the media regularly calls "Draconian") are actually very similar to the laws Canada already has. The reason we have so much illegal immigration is not because our laws are harsh (the United States is actually one of the easiest first world countries to legally immigrate to) the reason we have so much illegal immigration is because we are a first world country that shares a gigantic border with a third world country.

Precisely. This proposal from Denmark's Social Democrats (!) would be decried as ''fascist'' in America:

http://www.france24.com/en/20180205-denmarks-biggest-party-wants-cap-non-western-asylum-seekers
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2018, 01:25:42 AM »

This thug should have been deported years ago.

Ragbir, who has lived in the United States for more than a quarter century, received an order of deportation in 2006 after being convicted of wire fraud, having been charged with processing fraudulent mortgage loan applications.

Can any of you dispute this post?  If not I'm not seeing why it's outrageous to ship this guy back.

Wire fraud laws = white supremacy

Wire fraud and postal fraud statutes are intended to provide pretexts for the prosecution and conviction of anyone who uses the mails or electronic media for cheating their customers. Offering a fraudulent deal through the mails or media that fleeces people and getting corrupt gain through such constitutes mail or wire fraud. Basically, cheating people out of money on a grand scale is a federal offense.

It has nothing to do with ethnicity.
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2018, 08:38:48 PM »

This thug should have been deported years ago.

Ragbir, who has lived in the United States for more than a quarter century, received an order of deportation in 2006 after being convicted of wire fraud, having been charged with processing fraudulent mortgage loan applications.

Can any of you dispute this post?  If not I'm not seeing why it's outrageous to ship this guy back.

Wire fraud laws = white supremacy

Wire fraud and postal fraud statutes are intended to provide pretexts for the prosecution and conviction of anyone who uses the mails or electronic media for cheating their customers. Offering a fraudulent deal through the mails or media that fleeces people and getting corrupt gain through such constitutes mail or wire fraud. Basically, cheating people out of money on a grand scale is a federal offense.

It has nothing to do with ethnicity.

Not at all surprising that a fraudster would go into immigration activism, it's also a racket. He contributes nothing to society except saying we needs more people like him telling us we need more people like him. Pyramid scheme.
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2018, 08:39:57 PM »

Current United States immigration law is not tough by the standards of other first world countries. To say otherwise is either ignorant or a lie. Your own country Canada has much tougher laws than the United States. In fact, the immigration policies advocated by Trump (which the media regularly calls "Draconian") are actually very similar to the laws Canada already has. The reason we have so much illegal immigration is not because our laws are harsh (the United States is actually one of the easiest first world countries to legally immigrate to) the reason we have so much illegal immigration is because we are a first world country that shares a gigantic border with a third world country.

Precisely. This proposal from Denmark's Social Democrats (!) would be decried as ''fascist'' in America:

http://www.france24.com/en/20180205-denmarks-biggest-party-wants-cap-non-western-asylum-seekers
Because this is the United States of America, not Denmark.
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2018, 08:50:54 PM »

Current United States immigration law is not tough by the standards of other first world countries. To say otherwise is either ignorant or a lie. Your own country Canada has much tougher laws than the United States. In fact, the immigration policies advocated by Trump (which the media regularly calls "Draconian") are actually very similar to the laws Canada already has. The reason we have so much illegal immigration is not because our laws are harsh (the United States is actually one of the easiest first world countries to legally immigrate to) the reason we have so much illegal immigration is because we are a first world country that shares a gigantic border with a third world country.

Precisely. This proposal from Denmark's Social Democrats (!) would be decried as ''fascist'' in America:

http://www.france24.com/en/20180205-denmarks-biggest-party-wants-cap-non-western-asylum-seekers
Because this is the United States of America, not Denmark.

Same excuse conservatives use to justify our lack of basic social services and low minimum wage.
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2018, 08:53:32 PM »

Current United States immigration law is not tough by the standards of other first world countries. To say otherwise is either ignorant or a lie. Your own country Canada has much tougher laws than the United States. In fact, the immigration policies advocated by Trump (which the media regularly calls "Draconian") are actually very similar to the laws Canada already has. The reason we have so much illegal immigration is not because our laws are harsh (the United States is actually one of the easiest first world countries to legally immigrate to) the reason we have so much illegal immigration is because we are a first world country that shares a gigantic border with a third world country.

Precisely. This proposal from Denmark's Social Democrats (!) would be decried as ''fascist'' in America:

http://www.france24.com/en/20180205-denmarks-biggest-party-wants-cap-non-western-asylum-seekers
Because this is the United States of America, not Denmark.

Same excuse conservatives use to justify our lack of basic social services and low minimum wage.


Its different on those issues and immigration .
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