Which Collective Has The Worst Trump Derangement Syndrome?

[ChinaSoc]

Liberal twitter, left twitter is fine since Trump is exactly what we've always been saying about USian imperialism but they can't hide it under a pretty face anymore.

[Yank2133]

The actual Trumpists themselves.

Seriously.

I loved President Obama, but I wasn't willing to sell my soul for him like Trumpists have done for Trump.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Rick Wilson.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

The actual Trumpists themselves.

Got to agree with this one. I don't know what the biggest thing I'd give up to see Trump not be president anymore would be, but the hardliners seem like they would gladly give up their children, their country, and their God to keep him as president.

What do you mean 'would'? They have.

The religious right has become a laughingstock, their hypocrisy increasingly obvious as they openly abandon every bit of their regligion in support of their Orange Messiah.

They have abandonded their children to predatory misogyny, to violent and hateful bigotry, to death by fetishized instruments of violence, to future wounded by entrenched inequality and environmental damage.

Trumpers have nothing which they value save their own belief in a gilded orange id-monster, which makes them utterly terrifying, because they will abandon or destroy anything that thereatens their belief. Because without their belief, they will be forced to confront reality - that they have turned themselves into hollow shells of human beings.



They have, without blinking, tossed aside the Constitution,   political convention , and accepted a creeping cult of personality that is demonstratably incapable of governing well.

[Tartarus Sauce]

The people who think that Trump is anything other than a narcissistic carnival barker who's completely incapable of executing the duties of the office he stumbled into are more deranged than anybody else, hands down.

I don't want a "ruler".  But lots of folks get to the point in lives where they just want the government to solve their problem(s).  In truth, many are there because they have no one to turn to but the government.  That sort of stuff produces an appreciation for authoritarianism.

I remember an ad for a consumer loan company a few years ago.  Their pitch was that they wouldn't make you jump through hoops for a loan because "The Manager is the Boss".  That's what people, desperate for solutions, want.  Perhaps it's time to consider how our level of collective desperation in America got so high.

This is actually a good point, and is a reminder of the constant threat that demagoguery presents in a democratic system.

It doesn't change the fact though that hardcore Trump supporters are the biggest marks in history for falling for such a comically ridiculous sales pitch. If they were so pissed off at the system that they wanted a no-nonsense Mr Fixit, maybe they should have rallied around an actual Mr. Fixit. Trump is an emotionally stunted manchild with a track record of breaking things that other people had any sort of stake in. The reason he did so well as a reality TV star is because he played the role of looking big and important without needing to execute any real responsibility, a rather fitting station in life for a man so shallow engaging in an industry devoid of substance. It was his life's calling and he never should have tried to move beyond it to a position where his temper tantrums and delusions of grandeur could cause actual consequences of merit.

You do not give people like Trump actual positions of power where he needs to be accountable for his actions, because Trump is too egotistical and narcissistic to care about anything of actual importance in the real world. He occupies an incredibly narrow slice of reality that involves nothing but a constant indulgence of his greatly inflated self-image; he is little more than a walking, talking id. As president, he spends a third of his time jacking off at Mar-A-Lago, another third on the golf course, and the rest of the time either holding kabuki theater press conferences where he gets to slap his John Hancock on policies he played minimal to no role in crafting or holding cabinet meetings where he consistently ignores any advice that doesn't appeal to his gut instincts. He can't learn, he can't grow, he can't engage in introspection, he can't take constructive feedback, he can't create long-term strategies that involve actual risk assessment, he can't care about people beyond the degree they manage to pamper his own ego, he can't act as a moral leader or an effective diplomatic vessel; he can't do anything that is required of an actual competent leader because his brain is not capable of contending with anything that doesn't involve constant affirmation of his inaccurate image of himself. He's a needy diva that demands special attention, special privileges, and acknowledgement from everybody that he's the best at everything. All he knows how to do is react to the world around him, not to engage with it.

What is he doing there? What convinced people this would be an acceptable simulacrum of a presidential administration? If an actual crisis were to hit, he would be clueless how to handle it and would almost invariably make it worse, because Trump's instincts are designed to choose the absolute worst option possible. He's an elitist, indolent prick squatting in the highest office in the land and occasionally throwing a fit and smashing buttons at random to see what sticks. The circus is quite literally being run from the monkey cage.

I won't deny that a certain segment of Americans have slipped towards a more authoritarian mindset that values performance over integrity. But one would have to be a gullible rube of the highest order to think that this pitiful, dysfunctional court jester of a man was going to perform the job of president in a manner that would actually fix any of their problems.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Left Twitter is nowhere near close to the worst, they enjoy dumping on so-called neoliberals more. I think you're confusing them with #Resistance Twitter, which is at times completely ridiculous and conspiratorial.

[Badger]

The actual Trumpists themselves.

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Jesus Christ, if you want to claim "derangement syndrome", at least address the points...

For me, appointing ExxonMobil executives, Goldman Sachs executives, and Betsy DeVos to his cabinet is indefensible and inexcusable, and shows how Trump is just another member of the GOP corporate fellatio party.

A president Kasich wouldn't have.... well, at least appointed DeVos.

He wouldnt have appointed Sessions, Pruitt , and Carson either

Good points!

[Rookie Yinzer]

The people who think that Trump is anything other than a narcissistic carnival barker who's completely incapable of executing the duties of the office he stumbled into are more deranged than anybody else, hands down.

[HisGrace]

The actual Trumpists themselves.

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Jesus Christ, if you want to claim "derangement syndrome", at least address the points...

For me, appointing ExxonMobil executives, Goldman Sachs executives, and Betsy DeVos to his cabinet is indefensible and inexcusable, and shows how Trump is just another member of the GOP corporate fellatio party.

A president Kasich wouldn't have.... well, at least appointed DeVos.

He wouldnt have appointed Sessions, Pruitt , and Carson either

We'd probably also have an actual diplomat as Secretary of State like Jon Huntsman or something.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Left Twitter is nowhere near close to the worst, they enjoy dumping on so-called neoliberals more. I think you're confusing them with #Resistance Twitter, which is at times completely ridiculous and conspiratorial.

I've definitely seen more centristy #Resistbots on Twitter than actual leftists, but I suppose YMMV.

[pbrower2a]

The actual Trumpists themselves.

Bingo. They fail to understand how authoritarian and un-American 'their' President is.

As opposed to who?  Nixon?  Reagan?  Bush 41?  Bush 43?  LBJ? 

Ford, Carter, Clinton, and Obama are the only Presidents that I MIGHT consider non-authoritarian. 

Trump's just out in the open about what he's about.  And he's what people want; a Mr. Fixit.  No one believes that America is "Stronger Together"; they believe America is stronger when everyone shuts up (which never happens) and lets the leader do his job (which is ill-defined).

Much as I may have had Ronald Reagan in disdain at the time, I never questioned his loyalty to America. 

[Stranger in a strange land]

The most deranged are the 13-dimensional chess people who think his every move is brilliant. Second most are #NeverTrump Beltway Republicans who can't process that Trump is just saying what a good chunk of their voters have been thinking all along, and at the end of the day, he's really just George W. Bush with more corruption and racist tweets. Next most are the #Resistance Donut Twitter types.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

The actual Trumpists themselves.

Bingo. They fail to understand how authoritarian and un-American 'their' President is.

As opposed to who?  Nixon?  Reagan?  Bush 41?  Bush 43?  LBJ? 

Ford, Carter, Clinton, and Obama are the only Presidents that I MIGHT consider non-authoritarian. 

Trump's just out in the open about what he's about.  And he's what people want; a Mr. Fixit.  No one believes that America is "Stronger Together"; they believe America is stronger when everyone shuts up (which never happens) and lets the leader do his job (which is ill-defined).

I've quoted this before, but it IS the appropriate reply to anyone who thinks this way (not saying you specifically do):

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- Hayek's The Road to Serfdom