Comments regarding the Kavanaugh nomination (thread 3)

[Gass3268]

Here’s a nugget of bad news for the GOP in that poll:

Amongst those who said they are “very enthusiastic” about the midterms, voters believe the women over Kavanaugh 57-40%.

But I was told this was good for Republicans!!

[Hollywood]

56% of respondents disapprove of how the Democrats handled it.  55% disapprove of how the Republicans handled it. 

[BudgieForce]

56% of respondents disapprove of how the Democrats handled it.  55% disapprove of how the Republicans handled it. 

With the victory lap the Republicans have taken, you'd think they'd have better numbers than the Democrats.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

56% of respondents disapprove of how the Democrats handled it.  55% disapprove of how the Republicans handled it. 

With the victory lap the Republicans have taken, you'd think they'd have better numbers than the Democrats.

Well the thing is, the Democrats also have a higher approval rating than the GOP on the issue. 36% approved of how the Dems handled the allegations while 35% approved of the Reps. Essentially a wash.

[Beet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N34hehRgw9g

[BundouYMB]

B-b-b-b-b-but Fox News and IceSpear told me rallying around a rapist was a genius 12th dimension political strategy! B-b-b-b-ut the red wave!

[Technocracy Timmy]

https://twitter.com/aaronblake/status/1049408153178304514?s=21

B-b-b-b-b-but Fox News and IceSpear told me rallying around a rapist was a genius 12th dimension political strategy! B-b-b-b-ut the red wave!

It certainly won’t hurt them in the senate where the battleground this year is in deep deplorable territory that voted for Trump by double digits (ND/IN/MO/TN).

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

https://twitter.com/aaronblake/status/1049408153178304514?s=21

B-b-b-b-b-but Fox News and IceSpear told me rallying around a rapist was a genius 12th dimension political strategy! B-b-b-b-ut the red wave!

It certainly won’t hurt them in the senate where the battleground this year is in deep deplorable territory that voted for Trump by double digits (ND/IN/MO/TN).

Voters are disgusting, news at 11.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Independents are some of the dumbest people on the planet. I’m so sorry our party refused to let an accused rapist walz into a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court without a vetting. Jesus Christ.

[136or142]

https://twitter.com/aaronblake/status/1049408153178304514?s=21

B-b-b-b-b-but Fox News and IceSpear told me rallying around a rapist was a genius 12th dimension political strategy! B-b-b-b-ut the red wave!

It certainly won’t hurt them in the senate where the battleground this year is in deep deplorable territory that voted for Trump by double digits (ND/IN/MO/TN).

Voters are disgusting, news at 11.

I would assume that many 'independents' are really Republicans who don't want to identify with the Republican Party.

[Technocracy Timmy]

https://twitter.com/aaronblake/status/1049408153178304514?s=21

B-b-b-b-b-but Fox News and IceSpear told me rallying around a rapist was a genius 12th dimension political strategy! B-b-b-b-ut the red wave!

It certainly won’t hurt them in the senate where the battleground this year is in deep deplorable territory that voted for Trump by double digits (ND/IN/MO/TN).

Voters are disgusting, news at 11.

I would assume that many 'independents' are really Republicans who don't want to identify with the Republican Party.

Indies in the US typically vote 90%+ for one of the two major Parties.

[136or142]

https://twitter.com/aaronblake/status/1049408153178304514?s=21

B-b-b-b-b-but Fox News and IceSpear told me rallying around a rapist was a genius 12th dimension political strategy! B-b-b-b-ut the red wave!

It certainly won’t hurt them in the senate where the battleground this year is in deep deplorable territory that voted for Trump by double digits (ND/IN/MO/TN).

Voters are disgusting, news at 11.

I would assume that many 'independents' are really Republicans who don't want to identify with the Republican Party.

Indies in the US typically vote 90%+ for one of the two major Parties.

Well my point was, which I thought I mentioned in my initial post, so my mistake,sorry, is that 'independents' self identify as independents to pollsters.  So, I would guess that a fair percentage of these 'independents' are really Republicans who don't want to identify with the Republican Party to a pollster right now.

[2016]

Just in case everyone missed Joe Scarborough of MSNBC came out saying Kavanaugh was treated unfairly last week and he said it believe again this morning.

That is saying something because Joe hates Trump.

I don't think anyone could make a case that he wasn't treated unfairly.  I'm not happy with the Kavanaugh nomination.  I don't think centrist Republicans are happy with it either.  I wish the allegations against Kavanaugh were made sooner so that a timely investigation could be made. In fact, I had kept my mouth shut until the allegations surfaced, because I largely agreed with Democrats that Roe v. Wade should not be overturned.  

The political process and media bias were over-the-top.  All at the last minute.  I would have liked these investigations earlier in the process.  But I think the process would have still be unfair.  

I think the last two accusations were also seen as over-kill, and those were nonsense.  For example, Swetnick claimed she saw Kavanaugh roofy girls and accused him of participating in gang bangs.  Then she said she never saw him roofy anyone (just holding a cup), and never saw him participate in gang bangs.  Yet the news reports this claim as credible.  How is that fair?

The Media is VERY BIASED against Kavanaugh and they just did it AGAIN. Horribly Journos sitting there on CNN and elsewhere.

[Beet]

Trump says Kavanaugh proven innocent
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-apologizes-behalf-nation-kavanaugh-says-he-was-proven-innocent-n917956

[Sestak]

Trump says Kavanaugh proven innocent
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-apologizes-behalf-nation-kavanaugh-says-he-was-proven-innocent-n917956

Trump lies, news at 11.

[IceSpear]

B-b-b-b-b-but Fox News and IceSpear told me rallying around a rapist was a genius 12th dimension political strategy! B-b-b-b-ut the red wave!

How's that collapse in North Dakota and Tennessee working out?

Different states will respond in different ways. It actually seems to have helped Menendez, for instance. Unfortunately for the Democrats, their road to a Senate majority this cycle ran through crimson red Deplorable states.

[IceSpear]

Independents Americans are some of the dumbest people on the planet. I’m so sorry our party refused to let an accused rapist walz into a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court without a vetting. Jesus Christ.

Fixed.

Anyway, those numbers aren't surprising. The Dems botched this process from the very beginning, beginning with DiFi's mishandling of the letter. And it's pretty clear they were out for blood/revenge for Garland and were attempting to nakedly use these accusations as an excuse to steal a SCOTUS seat. Not that I don't support playing dirty, but they probably should've been a bit less transparent about it if they were still hoping to win in crimson red Deplorable states in the election that takes place in a month. Also, it was hilarious that people ever thought that the GOP was going to surrender control of the SCOTUS for a generation due to this. Kavanaugh could've been caught on tape raping dozens of women and they'd still confirm him. Why? One (potential) election loss doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Americans are schizophrenic, stupid, and volatile, so you'll probably win again 2 to 4 years later regardless once they get tired of the other guys. But controlling SCOTUS for a generation? That's priceless. Dems had no way to win this fight. They picked the wrong battle, lost, and could very well lose some of their members for it. It was a case study in political incompetence.

[Calthrina950]

Independents Americans are some of the dumbest people on the planet. I’m so sorry our party refused to let an accused rapist walz into a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court without a vetting. Jesus Christ.

Fixed.

Anyway, those numbers aren't surprising. The Dems botched this process from the very beginning, beginning with DiFi's mishandling of the letter. And it's pretty clear they were out for blood/revenge for Garland and were attempting to nakedly use these accusations as an excuse to steal a SCOTUS seat. Not that I don't support playing dirty, but they probably should've been a bit less transparent about it if they were still hoping to win in crimson red Deplorable states in the election that takes place in a month. Also, it was hilarious that people ever thought that the GOP was going to surrender control of the SCOTUS for a generation due to this. Kavanaugh could've been caught on tape raping dozens of women and they'd still confirm him. Why? One (potential) election loss doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Americans are schizophrenic, stupid, and volatile, so you'll probably win again 2 to 4 years later regardless once they get tired of the other guys. But controlling SCOTUS for a generation? That's priceless. Dems had no way to win this fight. They picked the wrong battle, lost, and could very well lose some of their members for it. It was a case study in political incompetence.

I agree with you here. I believe that the Kavanaugh debacle will have a mixed effect on the midterms. In the House, I think Democrats will be the beneficiaries. Many of the female suburban voters in Clinton-Republican and close Trump-Republican districts will probably be influenced, at least to some extent, by it, and it could drive up turnout among the Democratic base in those districts. At the same time, however, this will rally and consolidate the Republican vote in states like North Dakota, Tennessee, Missouri, Indiana, etc. and will either lead to Republican victories or to even tighter races in those states.

At this point, I'm inclined to say that Heitkamp, McCaskill, and Bredesen are underdogs, and that Donnelly is close to being one. Now, there is still nearly a month left before the election, and other things can (and will) happen that will impact the vote. But these particular Democrats weren't helped by this. The only Romney state Democrat who benefited from this, without a doubt, is Manchin; I suspect that by voting for Kavanaugh, he will consolidate his margin over Morrisey, particularly with voters who were leaning towards him, but not yet definitively on board.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

It was a battle worth having. Collins could have voted no. And if she was going to, they would have pulled Manchin in line too.

[IceSpear]

It was a battle worth having. Collins could have voted no. And if she was going to, they would have pulled Manchin in line too.

Why do you say that? I think it's pretty obvious at this point that Collins is a faux moderate partisan hack. Expecting a Republican Senator to save Dems' skin was always a fool's gambit, especially now that McCain is gone (which was a special case for obvious reasons.) Especially all the people who were once again playing the Charlie Brown to Jeff Flake's Lucy.

In fact, I bet Collins would've voted yes on Obamacare repeal if she/McConnell knew McCain was a no and McConnell forced her in line. She's always there when McConnell needs her. Remember when she voted for Betsy DeVos because they needed her vote in committee, then postured against her in the floor vote when her vote was irrelevant?

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Independents are some of the dumbest people on the planet. I’m so sorry our party refused to let an accused rapist walz into a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court without a vetting. Jesus Christ.

Don't blindly believe all accusers. Plenty of them could be misrembering or lying.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1049391007081684993

"The women" 
Ridiculous phrasing. 

[Slander and/or Libel]

It was a battle worth having. Collins could have voted no. And if she was going to, they would have pulled Manchin in line too.

Why do you say that? I think it's pretty obvious at this point that Collins is a faux moderate partisan hack. Expecting a Republican Senator to save Dems' skin was always a fool's gambit, especially now that McCain is gone (which was a special case for obvious reasons.) Especially all the people who were once again playing the Charlie Brown to Jeff Flake's Lucy.

In fact, I bet Collins would've voted yes on Obamacare repeal if she/McConnell knew McCain was a no and McConnell forced her in line. She's always there when McConnell needs her. Remember when she voted for Betsy DeVos because they needed her vote in committee, then postured against her in the floor vote when her vote was irrelevant?

This is exactly right. Collins' speech made pretty clear that she had never even been remotely close to voting no.

[emailking]

In fact, I bet Collins would've voted yes on Obamacare repeal if she/McConnell knew McCain was a no and McConnell forced her in line.  She's always there when McConnell needs her. Remember when she voted for Betsy DeVos because they needed her vote in committee, then postured against her in the floor vote when her vote was irrelevant?

I forget what it was exactly but there was some Obama regulation on energy or drilling or something they wanted to overturn and she was a deciding vote against.

[Brittain33]

In fact, I bet Collins would've voted yes on Obamacare repeal if she/McConnell knew McCain was a no and McConnell forced her in line.  She's always there when McConnell needs her. Remember when she voted for Betsy DeVos because they needed her vote in committee, then postured against her in the floor vote when her vote was irrelevant?

I forget what it was exactly but there was some Obama regulation on energy or drilling or something they wanted to overturn and she was a deciding vote against.

Yes, I think it was about methane release or something.