House votes against lowering voting age to 16 for federal elections
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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2019, 12:39:07 AM »

If you are going to be a legal adult before the winners of the next election are set to take office, you should be able to vote in the current election.

In other words, if an election is going to have an effect on ongoing political situations at points in time when you are a legal adult, you ought to have a say in the process.

The minimum voting age should be about 11 and 5/6ths based on this and the fact that the US Senate uses 6 year terms that start about 2 months after the election, and that office is the office with the longest terms.

Since elections that occur after I'm dead will affect my descendants or my estate, shouldn't I then be able to vote posthumously?

I mean, those elections would not affect you personally so...

Minors are not taxpayers, so how exactly would they be directly affected in the time between when they are 11 and 18?

They would no longer be minors while some of the politicians elected in elections they never had a chance to vote in were still serving terms from said elections.

Though after thinking about it, a 15 5/6 threshold does make more sense and it still completely works when it comes to the House of Representatives.

Most adults aren't informed enough to be voting, not to mention teenagers. If anything, the voting age needs to be raised; perhaps drastically.

To be fair, the average 16yo American is probably more informed and less of a political edgelord than you. I wouldn't be arguing against voting rights on the basis of how informed a person is if I was you, my man.

The average 16 year old American is dumb as a brick.
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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2019, 12:48:20 AM »

If you are going to be a legal adult before the winners of the next election are set to take office, you should be able to vote in the current election.

In other words, if an election is going to have an effect on ongoing political situations at points in time when you are a legal adult, you ought to have a say in the process.

The minimum voting age should be about 11 and 5/6ths based on this and the fact that the US Senate uses 6 year terms that start about 2 months after the election, and that office is the office with the longest terms.

Since elections that occur after I'm dead will affect my descendants or my estate, shouldn't I then be able to vote posthumously?

I mean, those elections would not affect you personally so...

Minors are not taxpayers, so how exactly would they be directly affected in the time between when they are 11 and 18?

They would no longer be minors while some of the politicians elected in elections they never had a chance to vote in were still serving terms from said elections.

Though after thinking about it, a 15 5/6 threshold does make more sense and it still completely works when it comes to the House of Representatives.

Most adults aren't informed enough to be voting, not to mention teenagers. If anything, the voting age needs to be raised; perhaps drastically.

To be fair, the average 16yo American is probably more informed and less of a political edgelord than you. I wouldn't be arguing against voting rights on the basis of how informed a person is if I was you, my man.

The average 16 year old American is dumb as a brick.

- Anecdotal Evidence is Anecdotal Evidence, but still, the "average student" at the public high school I attended had a B+ average. Hardly seems dumb.

- With all due respect, it's pretty dumb to go around calling Collin Peterson and Joe Manchin Socialists. You really shouldn't be talking.
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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2019, 01:44:44 AM »

If you are going to be a legal adult before the winners of the next election are set to take office, you should be able to vote in the current election.

In other words, if an election is going to have an effect on ongoing political situations at points in time when you are a legal adult, you ought to have a say in the process.

The minimum voting age should be about 11 and 5/6ths based on this and the fact that the US Senate uses 6 year terms that start about 2 months after the election, and that office is the office with the longest terms.

Since elections that occur after I'm dead will affect my descendants or my estate, shouldn't I then be able to vote posthumously?

I mean, those elections would not affect you personally so...

Minors are not taxpayers, so how exactly would they be directly affected in the time between when they are 11 and 18?

They would no longer be minors while some of the politicians elected in elections they never had a chance to vote in were still serving terms from said elections.

Though after thinking about it, a 15 5/6 threshold does make more sense and it still completely works when it comes to the House of Representatives.

Most adults aren't informed enough to be voting, not to mention teenagers. If anything, the voting age needs to be raised; perhaps drastically.

To be fair, the average 16yo American is probably more informed and less of a political edgelord than you. I wouldn't be arguing against voting rights on the basis of how informed a person is if I was you, my man.

The average 16 year old American is dumb as a brick.

Again though, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2019, 01:53:10 AM »

I think it's fair to say that the average 16 year old doesn't care about politics. At least no one I knew in high school did. The Atlas Forum is not representative of the country.
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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2019, 02:40:02 AM »

18 seems fine.
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« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2019, 04:27:43 AM »

Rofl Kendra Horn & Abigail Spanberger voted aye.
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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2019, 06:57:12 AM »

Should increase to 19. 19 should be the age of adulthood.
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