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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2019, 05:01:31 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2019, 10:00:17 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2019, 09:23:48 AM »

I see Griff was rather excited to vote for this law. Anyway,

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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2019, 10:57:45 AM »

The FINAL vote on LC 2.10 Ammendment to the Standing Orders is now closed

Aye: 5 (tack50, thr33, Ninja, lfromnj, Griff)
Abstain: 0
Nay: 1 (S019)
Not voting: 1 (Dipper Josh)
Leave of Absence: 1 (Pyro)
Voted too late: 1 (Zaybay)

So this bill passes
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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2019, 10:59:09 AM »

Since this doesn't need the governor's signature, I'll sign it myself as speaker

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Amendment to the Standing Orders:

1. The Standing Orders of the Lincoln Council shall be ammended as follows

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Section 2. Movement of Legislation to the Floor
D. Each thread shall remain open until the bill either (a) becomes law via the Governor's signature, lack of Gubernatorial action, or referendum override, (b) fails to receive majority support from Council, (c) is sent to the public for a referendum, pursuant to Article I, Section 6 of the Comprehensive Constitutional Amendment, or (d) the Chancellor moves to revoke it from the floor, subject to a majority vote.

E. After the conclusion of the first 72 hours for debate, the Chancellor or the Leader of the Opposition may move for cloture. Upon the concurrence of two-thirds of the membership, the Council shall end debate and the Speaker immediately declare a vote on the affected legislation. A motion for cloture shall overrule any ammendments presented and any ongoing debates, but any votes which are already open shall stay open; with the motion for cloture being opened inmediately after said open vote is closed.

Section 3. Legislative Debates and Voting
D. After the conclusion of the first 72 hours for debate, any Councillor or the Chancellor may call for a vote on said legislation. The Speaker shall open a vote if neither another Councillor nor the Chancellor objects within 24 hours of the call for a vote. If a Councillor objects to the motion within 24 hours, a vote shall be held on whether or not to proceed to a final vote, with a two thirds majority required for the objection to be overruled if the legislation has been on the floor for less than 240 hours; and a simple majority required if the legislation has been on the floor for more than 240 hours.

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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2019, 07:18:31 PM »

I see Griff was rather excited to vote for this law. Anyway,

AYE

What can I say? I got ahead of myself!
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« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2019, 07:48:32 PM »

The FINAL vote on LC 2.10 Ammendment to the Standing Orders is now closed

Aye: 5 (tack50, thr33, Ninja, lfromnj, Griff)
Abstain: 0
Nay: 1 (S019)
Not voting: 1 (Dipper Josh)
Leave of Absence: 1 (Pyro)
Voted too late: 1 (Zaybay)

So this bill passes

Damn, 6 hours too late Sad
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« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2019, 09:42:10 PM »

The Filibuster is dead! Huzzah!!!
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2019, 09:47:23 PM »


It is a sad day for this region. We have today, told the minority, that their voices do not matter. We have paved the way for far-right and far-left legislation. It is our solemn duty to bring back the filibuster, immediately. All abolishing the filibuster does is eliminate the need for compromise. Now, everyone will become a hyper-partisan. We will all run from the center and now vote the party line. This law is absolutely atrocious and will be a disaster. I urge us to consider repealing part of this law, to preserve the tradition of compromise and centrism.
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2019, 09:53:48 PM »


It is a sad day for this region. We have today, told the minority, that their voices do not matter. We have paved the way for far-right and far-left legislation. It is our solemn duty to bring back the filibuster, immediately. All abolishing the filibuster does is eliminate the need for compromise. Now, everyone will become a hyper-partisan. We will all run from the center and now vote the party line. This law is absolutely atrocious and will be a disaster. I urge us to consider repealing part of this law, to preserve the tradition of compromise and centrism.

The majority has a right to pass legislation. The people voted for a Labor majority, they voted for Labor's legislative program. Labor has a mandate to implement their policies.
The minority has ever right to attempt to water down legislation, but the minority has no right to obstruct the will of the people.
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« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2019, 09:55:48 PM »


It is a sad day for this region. We have today, told the minority, that their voices do not matter. We have paved the way for far-right and far-left legislation. It is our solemn duty to bring back the filibuster, immediately. All abolishing the filibuster does is eliminate the need for compromise. Now, everyone will become a hyper-partisan. We will all run from the center and now vote the party line. This law is absolutely atrocious and will be a disaster. I urge us to consider repealing part of this law, to preserve the tradition of compromise and centrism.

The majority has a right to pass legislation. The people voted for a Labor majority, they voted for Labor's legislative program. Labor has a mandate to implement their policies.
The minority has ever right to attempt to water down legislation, but the minority has no right to obstruct the will of the people.

The filibuster is a time-honored tradition, that prevents extremist policies from being implemented
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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2019, 09:56:19 PM »


It is a sad day for this region. We have today, told the minority, that their voices do not matter. We have paved the way for far-right and far-left legislation. It is our solemn duty to bring back the filibuster, immediately. All abolishing the filibuster does is eliminate the need for compromise. Now, everyone will become a hyper-partisan. We will all run from the center and now vote the party line. This law is absolutely atrocious and will be a disaster. I urge us to consider repealing part of this law, to preserve the tradition of compromise and centrism.

The majority has a right to pass legislation. The people voted for a Labor majority, they voted for Labor's legislative program. Labor has a mandate to implement their policies.
The minority has ever right to attempt to water down legislation, but the minority has no right to obstruct the will of the people.

The filibuster is a time-honored tradition, that prevents extremist policies from being implemented

No it is not. The filibuster has never existed in this game.
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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2019, 09:57:27 PM »


It is a sad day for this region. We have today, told the minority, that their voices do not matter. We have paved the way for far-right and far-left legislation. It is our solemn duty to bring back the filibuster, immediately. All abolishing the filibuster does is eliminate the need for compromise. Now, everyone will become a hyper-partisan. We will all run from the center and now vote the party line. This law is absolutely atrocious and will be a disaster. I urge us to consider repealing part of this law, to preserve the tradition of compromise and centrism.

The majority has a right to pass legislation. The people voted for a Labor majority, they voted for Labor's legislative program. Labor has a mandate to implement their policies.
The minority has ever right to attempt to water down legislation, but the minority has no right to obstruct the will of the people.

The filibuster is a time-honored tradition, that prevents extremist policies from being implemented

No it is not. The filibuster has never existed in this game.

Why do you oppose the filibuster
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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2019, 09:59:06 PM »


It is a sad day for this region. We have today, told the minority, that their voices do not matter. We have paved the way for far-right and far-left legislation. It is our solemn duty to bring back the filibuster, immediately. All abolishing the filibuster does is eliminate the need for compromise. Now, everyone will become a hyper-partisan. We will all run from the center and now vote the party line. This law is absolutely atrocious and will be a disaster. I urge us to consider repealing part of this law, to preserve the tradition of compromise and centrism.

The majority has a right to pass legislation. The people voted for a Labor majority, they voted for Labor's legislative program. Labor has a mandate to implement their policies.
The minority has ever right to attempt to water down legislation, but the minority has no right to obstruct the will of the people.

The filibuster is a time-honored tradition, that prevents extremist policies from being implemented

No it is not. The filibuster has never existed in this game.

Why do you oppose the filibuster

Filibustering is an undemocratic institution, designed to obstruct the passage of legislation which has the support of the legislature and the people.
There's a reason the filibuster only exists in America. Every other country recognises it as fundamentally undemocratic.
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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2019, 10:03:10 PM »


It is a sad day for this region. We have today, told the minority, that their voices do not matter. We have paved the way for far-right and far-left legislation. It is our solemn duty to bring back the filibuster, immediately. All abolishing the filibuster does is eliminate the need for compromise. Now, everyone will become a hyper-partisan. We will all run from the center and now vote the party line. This law is absolutely atrocious and will be a disaster. I urge us to consider repealing part of this law, to preserve the tradition of compromise and centrism.

The majority has a right to pass legislation. The people voted for a Labor majority, they voted for Labor's legislative program. Labor has a mandate to implement their policies.
The minority has ever right to attempt to water down legislation, but the minority has no right to obstruct the will of the people.

The filibuster is a time-honored tradition, that prevents extremist policies from being implemented

No it is not. The filibuster has never existed in this game.

Why do you oppose the filibuster

Filibustering is an undemocratic institution, designed to obstruct the passage of legislation which has the support of the legislature and the people.
There's a reason the filibuster only exists in America. Every other country recognises it as fundamentally undemocratic.

Thank goodness we have a filibuster, otherwise healthcare in America would be even worse, with a public option
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« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2019, 10:06:39 PM »


It is a sad day for this region. We have today, told the minority, that their voices do not matter. We have paved the way for far-right and far-left legislation. It is our solemn duty to bring back the filibuster, immediately. All abolishing the filibuster does is eliminate the need for compromise. Now, everyone will become a hyper-partisan. We will all run from the center and now vote the party line. This law is absolutely atrocious and will be a disaster. I urge us to consider repealing part of this law, to preserve the tradition of compromise and centrism.

The majority has a right to pass legislation. The people voted for a Labor majority, they voted for Labor's legislative program. Labor has a mandate to implement their policies.
The minority has ever right to attempt to water down legislation, but the minority has no right to obstruct the will of the people.

The filibuster is a time-honored tradition, that prevents extremist policies from being implemented

No it is not. The filibuster has never existed in this game.

Why do you oppose the filibuster

Filibustering is an undemocratic institution, designed to obstruct the passage of legislation which has the support of the legislature and the people.
There's a reason the filibuster only exists in America. Every other country recognises it as fundamentally undemocratic.

Thank goodness we have a filibuster, otherwise healthcare in America would be even worse, with a public option

Atlasia already has the public option.
And if the people vote for the public option, they should get the public option. In a Democracy the will of the people is and must be absolute, and cannot be overridden.
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« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2019, 10:10:35 PM »


It is a sad day for this region. We have today, told the minority, that their voices do not matter. We have paved the way for far-right and far-left legislation. It is our solemn duty to bring back the filibuster, immediately. All abolishing the filibuster does is eliminate the need for compromise. Now, everyone will become a hyper-partisan. We will all run from the center and now vote the party line. This law is absolutely atrocious and will be a disaster. I urge us to consider repealing part of this law, to preserve the tradition of compromise and centrism.

The majority has a right to pass legislation. The people voted for a Labor majority, they voted for Labor's legislative program. Labor has a mandate to implement their policies.
The minority has ever right to attempt to water down legislation, but the minority has no right to obstruct the will of the people.

The filibuster is a time-honored tradition, that prevents extremist policies from being implemented

No it is not. The filibuster has never existed in this game.

Why do you oppose the filibuster

Filibustering is an undemocratic institution, designed to obstruct the passage of legislation which has the support of the legislature and the people.
There's a reason the filibuster only exists in America. Every other country recognises it as fundamentally undemocratic.

Thank goodness we have a filibuster, otherwise healthcare in America would be even worse, with a public option

Atlasia already has the public option.
And if the people vote for the public option, they should get the public option. In a Democracy the will of the people is and must be absolute, and cannot be overridden.

So, of the people vote for Medicare-for-All, reparations, and the Green New Deal, they are supposed to get it??
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« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2019, 10:15:58 PM »


It is a sad day for this region. We have today, told the minority, that their voices do not matter. We have paved the way for far-right and far-left legislation. It is our solemn duty to bring back the filibuster, immediately. All abolishing the filibuster does is eliminate the need for compromise. Now, everyone will become a hyper-partisan. We will all run from the center and now vote the party line. This law is absolutely atrocious and will be a disaster. I urge us to consider repealing part of this law, to preserve the tradition of compromise and centrism.

The majority has a right to pass legislation. The people voted for a Labor majority, they voted for Labor's legislative program. Labor has a mandate to implement their policies.
The minority has ever right to attempt to water down legislation, but the minority has no right to obstruct the will of the people.

The filibuster is a time-honored tradition, that prevents extremist policies from being implemented

No it is not. The filibuster has never existed in this game.

Why do you oppose the filibuster

Filibustering is an undemocratic institution, designed to obstruct the passage of legislation which has the support of the legislature and the people.
There's a reason the filibuster only exists in America. Every other country recognises it as fundamentally undemocratic.

Thank goodness we have a filibuster, otherwise healthcare in America would be even worse, with a public option

Atlasia already has the public option.
And if the people vote for the public option, they should get the public option. In a Democracy the will of the people is and must be absolute, and cannot be overridden.

So, of the people vote for Medicare-for-All, reparations, and the Green New Deal, they are supposed to get it??

If the people vote for such policies, they must be delivered. It is integral to democracy that the will of the people be sacrosanct.
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« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2019, 08:41:21 AM »

Glad to see this had passed. Excellent work.
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