Is Pelosi simplifying Trump’s actions as “Bribery” effective 4 impechmnt support

[ProudModerate2]

Poll Question: Is Pelosi simplifying trump’s actions as “Bribery,” effective towards support for impeachment?


By putting a more simplified "name" on trump's misdeeds, it makes it easier for the general populace to understand. "Quid pro quo" can be confusing to some. On the other hand, "Bribery" is specifically identified in the Constitution as one of the crimes that is subject to impeachment.
I think this is effective and a smart strategy by the Democrats.

Here is some MSNBC (video) commentary on the matter (via YouTube): https://youtu.be/U8QM_sTp3WI


What do you think?
Vote and discuss.

[ProudModerate2]

[Hermit For Peace]

We are closing in on that clown.

[SteveRogers]

Yes. Republicans can get away with saying, “Okay, maybe there was a quid pro quo, but not every quid pro quo is illegal” and technically be correct. Bribery (of which a quid pro quo is an essential element) is 1. Indisputably a crime, and 2. Easier for the public to understand.

[T'Chenka]

We are closing in on that clown.

Schiff is going to move on him like a b__ch.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Yes, this plus dozens of other misdeeds warrant his impeachment. The Democrats are just focusing on this aspect since it seems to be the one that Americans care about the most and was done the most blatantly.

[GeneralMacArthur]

In my opinion, Trump committed bribery.  But for some thicker members of the public, that may be hard to explain.

I think the easier explanation is as follows.

Releasing the military aid was Trump's job.  There was no legitimate policy reason, in US interests, to withhold it.  It was mandated by Congress.  Even the administration admits it was good to release unconditionally.

But he withheld it, refusing to do his job.  He refused to do his job until Zelensky agreed to do him a personal favor - to investigate Biden, helping Trump's personal election campaign.

Trump refused to do his job unless Zelensky gave him something personally.

That is the textbook definition of soliciting a bribe.  Trump wasn't just bribing Zelensky -- he was forcing Zelensky to bribe him.

[ProudModerate2]

It seems that other Dem members in Congress are also using the word "bribery," so there is a new coordinated effort within the party.

[Mr. Smith]

Not really, the line in the sand has long since been drawn and since Beto, Nelson, and two of Feingold/Kander/McGinty aren't in the Senate, there's no hope of Removal anyway.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

No, this isn't what most people think of when they think of "bribery."  And if they ask three different Democrats what exactly the bribe was and whether Trump was the one bribing or the one being bribed, they'll get five different answers. 

Most people sense Trump did something wrong, but convincing them that there was a particular crime here is difficult.

[Green Line]

I prefer extortion.

[Person Man]

I prefer extortion.

The Ex makes it sound clean.

[Fight for Trump]

Quid pro quo does not strongly imply illegality or even necessarily corruption. Bribery is clear on both.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

No, this isn't what most people think of when they think of "bribery."  And if they ask three different Democrats what exactly the bribe was and whether Trump was the one bribing or the one being bribed, they'll get five different answers. 

Most people sense Trump did something wrong, but convincing them that there was a particular crime here is difficult.

This. 

I am convinced that Trump will not be impeached.  The Trump District Democrats will (with Pelosi's tacit support) not support impeachment.  But they will drag this thing out as long as they can in order to manipulate the narrative of the 2020 election, which is the goal of all they're doing.

[Pericles]

No, this isn't what most people think of when they think of "bribery."  And if they ask three different Democrats what exactly the bribe was and whether Trump was the one bribing or the one being bribed, they'll get five different answers. 

Most people sense Trump did something wrong, but convincing them that there was a particular crime here is difficult.

This. 

I am convinced that Trump will not be impeached.  The Trump District Democrats will (with Pelosi's tacit support) not support impeachment.  But they will drag this thing out as long as they can in order to manipulate the narrative of the 2020 election, which is the goal of all they're doing.

The House will certainly vote in favor of impeachment. Only 2 Democrats voted against the inquiry, and the case is very strong against Trump so Representatives who don't have to pander to the Republican base (therefore almost all Democrats and certainly over 218 Representatives) will vote for impeachment (which is what a majority of the country wants them to do).