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« on: August 30, 2006, 03:05:48 PM »

Illegal immigration will be one of the top issues in 08, but none of the current frontrunners are serious about illegal immigration. Will Tancredo run in 08? If not who will be teh "illegal immigration" candidate?
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2006, 10:40:44 PM »

I think the most likely case is Jim Gilchrist running for the Constitution Party as the anti-illegal immigration candidiate. However, talk of him running seems to have quieted down after appearance on a radio show run former members (the anti-Mormon / anti-Catholic / anti-women in office theocrats) of the party. Tancredo said he will run if no anti-ii candidate runs though. If McCain gets the nomination, Tancredo or Gilchrist or any anti-ii candidate with a decent amount of name recognition will at least make a good showing for a non-Republicrat.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2006, 09:09:06 AM »



Tancredo is already a political news has-been.  Single issue politicians rarely retain media coverage, and hardly ever win national elections.
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2006, 09:14:37 AM »

Tancredo is a joke. Name one time in which he spoke in a presidential sense without speaking of Illegal Immigration...I can. "Hey! We could bomb Mecca!!!".

I really hope he does win the GOP primary if he runs, it would be nice to see the Dems be the ones cruising to victory for a change.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2006, 10:04:53 PM »

If he runs, I expect he'll consistently place third or fourth in early primaries, and will win some primaries later on.  He'll have a bunch of delegates and lots of influence at the convention, and would get between 5-15% of the vote as a third party or independent candidate.
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2006, 10:24:52 PM »

If he runs, I expect he'll consistently place third or fourth in early primaries, and will win some primaries later on.  He'll have a bunch of delegates and lots of influence at the convention, and would get between 5-15% of the vote as a third party or independent candidate.

Ok, now give us your prediction without the crackpipe.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2006, 10:27:42 PM »

If he runs, I expect he'll consistently place third or fourth in early primaries, and will win some primaries later on.  He'll have a bunch of delegates and lots of influence at the convention, and would get between 5-15% of the vote as a third party or independent candidate.

Ok, now give us your prediction without the crackpipe.

Thank you, but I've studied and taught politics for years.  I remain fairly confident in my predicition. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2006, 11:08:50 PM »

If he runs, I expect he'll consistently place third or fourth in early primaries, and will win some primaries later on.  He'll have a bunch of delegates and lots of influence at the convention, and would get between 5-15% of the vote as a third party or independent candidate.

Ok, now give us your prediction without the crackpipe.

Thank you, but I've studied and taught politics for years.  I remain fairly confident in my predicition. 

I wish I could share your optimism but I don't think he will do as well in the primaries. Many of the people who provide funding to the candidates are the same ones who rely on the cheap labor illegal immigration provides. But I do agree with you that he (or Jim Gilchrist or another anti-illegal immigration activist with a decent amount of name recognition) could do well in the general election (which I have stated in the past).

BTW, welcome to the forum.

(If you haven't already check out the Fantasy Politics on the bottom of the main forum page.)
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2006, 11:22:04 PM »

Tancredo's positions may not win him a lot of grassroots support, but he could easily build up a grassroots campaign, which provides funding and votes.

And I've taken a look at the Fantasy Elections section and don't know where to begin or what it is.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2006, 11:46:37 PM »

If he runs, I expect he'll consistently place third or fourth in early primaries, and will win some primaries later on.  He'll have a bunch of delegates and lots of influence at the convention, and would get between 5-15% of the vote as a third party or independent candidate.

Ok, now give us your prediction without the crackpipe.

Thank you, but I've studied and taught politics for years.  I remain fairly confident in my predicition. 

I agree that it's not that outrageous. Just look at how well Pat Buchanan did in his runs for the GOP nomination; is Tancredo really worse than Buchanan?
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2006, 01:00:39 PM »
« Edited: September 09, 2006, 07:50:19 AM by Captain Vlad »

If he runs, I expect he'll consistently place third or fourth in early primaries, and will win some primaries later on.  He'll have a bunch of delegates and lots of influence at the convention, and would get between 5-15% of the vote as a third party or independent candidate.

Ok, now give us your prediction without the crackpipe.

Thank you, but I've studied and taught politics for years.  I remain fairly confident in my predicition. 

I agree that it's not that outrageous. Just look at how well Pat Buchanan did in his runs for the GOP nomination; is Tancredo really worse than Buchanan?

While I think Buchanun is far worse...the real difference is that Buchanun covered many issues, Tancredo covers one. One issue candidates do not fair well.
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2006, 02:01:07 PM »

If he runs, I expect he'll consistently place third or fourth in early primaries, and will win some primaries later on.  He'll have a bunch of delegates and lots of influence at the convention, and would get between 5-15% of the vote as a third party or independent candidate.

Ok, now give us your prediction without the crackpipe.
Much the same except with much less conviction, I'd assume. It's not an unreasonable guesstimate.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2006, 02:27:52 PM »

Would Tom Tancredo run on the Know Nothing Party ticket?
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2006, 02:53:55 PM »

That would be a good way for him to lose my vote. However, I think some of the nut cases that left the Constitution Party would fit in with the Know Nothing Party quite well.
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2006, 07:23:08 PM »

Would Tom Tancredo run on the Know Nothing Party ticket?

Well I don't think the old Know Nothing Party would have liked his kind.
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2006, 07:50:47 PM »

Would Tom Tancredo run on the Know Nothing Party ticket?

Well I don't think the old Know Nothing Party would have liked his kind.

I'm sure the nativists in the Know Nothing Party would've made an exception for a zealot like Tancredo.
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2006, 08:29:00 PM »

Would Tom Tancredo run on the Know Nothing Party ticket?

Well I don't think the old Know Nothing Party would have liked his kind.

I'm sure the nativists in the Know Nothing Party would've made an exception for a zealot like Tancredo.

Nah they hated Catholics with a passion and Italians as well so he was doublely screwed on that level. They were zealots in that respect so they wouldn't have allowed Tancredo into their club no matter what his stances were.
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2006, 09:01:55 PM »

Tancredo is a Presbyterian though, not a Catholic.

http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=CCO89758
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2006, 09:56:12 PM »


Ah didn't know that. They might let him in then.
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