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Question: If you are a UK resident which party will get your vote on July 4th 2024?
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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2024, 03:59:35 AM »

Lib Dem. But in a Conservative-Labour battleground? Hell, even I'd vote Labour this time.

Ultimately, if after all that's happened between 2019-2024 all you have to offer is Rwanda, magical tax cuts and/or racing to become the Republican Party 2: Electric Boogaloo shouting woke every five seconds... then you're not a serious party of government anymore, and voters ought to defenestrate you.
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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2024, 05:13:19 AM »
« Edited: May 25, 2024, 06:37:44 AM by President Punxsutawney Phil »

Very unenthusiastic Labour


It's good for the UK to have a Conservative Party as the main party of the right.

imagine actually thinking that

What are the alternatives? Reform, UKIP, and the various outright fascist (and worse) parties that have cropped up over the years. A (not necessarily the) Conservative Party is certainly preferable.

I mean at the end of the day the chips will fall where they may, but helping the Tories do better now is not what's going to prevent the British right from embracing far-right populism, given the Tories themselves have been at the forefront of that for the past 8 years.
I have significant small-c conservative tendencies and absolutely despise parties like UKIP/Brexit/Reform.
Why shouldn't I prefer the Tories to them and, in an election where Labour is going to take over anyway and likely by a landslide, vote Tory (assuming I'm in a Tory-won constituency in 2019 anyhow)? Mind you I'd probably have voted Labour in 2019 or LD (depending on the constituency), and would have done the same in 2017 and 2015, so it's not like I'm pro Conservative. The Tories deserve to be defeated and they should be punished by voters. However, them getting, say, 150 seats is punishment enough.
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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2024, 08:09:18 AM »

I will be voting for the Party, as it used to be referred to in Co. Durham back in the old days.
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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2024, 08:19:09 AM »

Very unenthusiastic Labour


It's good for the UK to have a Conservative Party as the main party of the right.

imagine actually thinking that

What are the alternatives? Reform, UKIP, and the various outright fascist (and worse) parties that have cropped up over the years. A (not necessarily the) Conservative Party is certainly preferable.

I mean at the end of the day the chips will fall where they may, but helping the Tories do better now is not what's going to prevent the British right from embracing far-right populism, given the Tories themselves have been at the forefront of that for the past 8 years.
I have significant small-c conservative tendencies and absolutely despise parties like UKIP/Brexit/Reform.
Why shouldn't I prefer the Tories to them and, in an election where Labour is going to take over anyway and likely by a landslide, vote Tory (assuming I'm in a Tory-won constituency in 2019 anyhow)? Mind you I'd probably have voted Labour in 2019 or LD (depending on the constituency), and would have done the same in 2017 and 2015, so it's not like I'm pro Conservative. The Tories deserve to be defeated and they should be punished by voters. However, them getting, say, 150 seats is punishment enough.

So I guess you just have a contrarian bias. Okay I guess. I think it's silly to play this kind of games with your vote and generally better things happen when people vote for the party they actually prefer (or the party they prefer among those that have realistic prospects to win, under awful electoral systems like FPP).
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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2024, 08:36:26 AM »
« Edited: May 25, 2024, 09:00:22 AM by President Punxsutawney Phil »

Very unenthusiastic Labour


It's good for the UK to have a Conservative Party as the main party of the right.

imagine actually thinking that

What are the alternatives? Reform, UKIP, and the various outright fascist (and worse) parties that have cropped up over the years. A (not necessarily the) Conservative Party is certainly preferable.

I mean at the end of the day the chips will fall where they may, but helping the Tories do better now is not what's going to prevent the British right from embracing far-right populism, given the Tories themselves have been at the forefront of that for the past 8 years.
I have significant small-c conservative tendencies and absolutely despise parties like UKIP/Brexit/Reform.
Why shouldn't I prefer the Tories to them and, in an election where Labour is going to take over anyway and likely by a landslide, vote Tory (assuming I'm in a Tory-won constituency in 2019 anyhow)? Mind you I'd probably have voted Labour in 2019 or LD (depending on the constituency), and would have done the same in 2017 and 2015, so it's not like I'm pro Conservative. The Tories deserve to be defeated and they should be punished by voters. However, them getting, say, 150 seats is punishment enough.

So I guess you just have a contrarian bias. Okay I guess. I think it's silly to play this kind of games with your vote and generally better things happen when people vote for the party they actually prefer (or the party they prefer among those that have realistic prospects to win, under awful electoral systems like FPP).
That's an oversimplification, since I would have gone Labour in 1997. Labour under Blair would have got my vote in every election from '97 to 2010.
However, liberal has been my self ID for practically a decade at this point, and I was a huge remainer for years and even now I wish Brexit never happened (among other things, it denied Corbyn the PMship in retrospect). I'm pro globalization. I dislike the "populist right" way more than the Tories and I loathed the UKIP. Compounded with my constitutional conservativism (strong support for monarchy, House of Lords, etc) it's not strange I'd be willing to consider tactically voting Tory as long as a Labour Party-led government isn't at risk. It's no accident Clem is my favorite PM over the past 80 years.
Tactical voting isn't unusual in British elections. The threat of Reform this time suggests that the Conservatives is where I'd park my vote in 2024.
People deserting the Conservatives is of course justified in general. They've done a bad job and need time in opposition. But in 2024 I'm especially concerned with marginalizing Reform. The best way to do that is denying them room to claim ownership of the right.
I'm anti-Conservative but especially anti-"populist right" (in the UK anyhow) and the more the latter looks like it will matter the more the former matters less.
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« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2024, 12:11:28 PM »

Labour, unless I live in a Lib Dem - Conservative marginal then reluctantly Tory.
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« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2024, 03:13:33 PM »

Labour, unless I live in a Lib Dem - Conservative marginal then reluctantly Tory.

Smart man.

There are good people on both sides of the aisle, but no good Lib Dems.
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« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2024, 06:22:38 PM »

I'd probably be a continuity Liberal/continuity SDP swing voter.
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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2024, 12:46:27 AM »

Generally Labour; Lib Dem in a Lib Dem-Tory marginal seat, Plaid in western Wales. Not the Greens, SF, or SNP. Alliance or SDLP depending on the seat in Northern Ireland. Voted Plaid in the poll as a joke.
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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2024, 02:04:28 AM »

Lib dem unless a LAB-Con conservative where I'd tactically vote labour
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« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2024, 02:41:20 AM »

It's not at all clear whether a Conservative Party that beat expectations this year would go forward in a centre-right direction, as opposed to deciding that its success was because of populism and it should therefore become more like Reform.
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« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2024, 06:58:32 AM »

It's not at all clear whether a Conservative Party that beat expectations this year would go forward in a centre-right direction, as opposed to deciding that its success was because of populism and it should therefore become more like Reform.

I think regardless of the result they will go in a more populist direction, they seem desperate to do this already as you can see they are much more focused on winning voters back from Reform than Labour.
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« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2024, 07:46:11 AM »

Who the next leader is (or at least who the final two are who are presented to the membership) will depend on the makeup of the parliamentary party, and that’s something that I’m not sure we have any real idea about; both because, with the kind of uncharted polling territory we’re in, there’s a wide range of outcomes of how many and which seats the Tories will win, and because there’s not any strong correlation between type/safeness of seat and the relative ideological alignment of their MPs.
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« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2024, 07:50:48 AM »

Yes, it could end up being quite random, especially when we're talking of people hanging on or losing by a few hundred votes...
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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2024, 09:52:56 AM »

I'd probably be a continuity Liberal/continuity SDP swing voter.

The (large?) majority of seats are not likely to have a candidate from either.
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« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2024, 11:19:43 AM »

I'd probably be a continuity Liberal/continuity SDP swing voter.

The (large?) majority of seats are not likely to have a candidate from either.

The Continuity Continuity SDP have a fairly large number of candidates selected, including Rod Liddle (yes, that one) in Middlesbrough South & East Cleveland, though as with the Workers Party I do wonder whether some of them won't actually make it to the ballot paper. (Where are all those deposits coming from?)

The 1989 Liberals seem to be aiming for full slates in Liverpool and in Cornwall but only have four candidates listed outside of those areas.
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« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2024, 12:21:26 PM »

I get that the continuity continuity SDP is basically a socially conservative with a slight left tinge larper party but what is the continuity Liberals aside from being the vehicle of a few councilors?
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« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2024, 01:34:07 PM »

I get that the continuity continuity SDP is basically a socially conservative with a slight left tinge larper party but what is the continuity Liberals aside from being the vehicle of a few councilors?
The SDP are for extremely online people who hold statist (but I wouldn’t really say left wing) views on the economy, so you’re basically correct. The Liberals are literally just a branding name for a few scattered council groups, there’s no real national platform or leadership.
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« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2024, 01:47:08 PM »

In my seat (marginal seat that is called part of the 'red wall' despite being a Labour-leaning marginal for most of its history - points for the person that guesses which seat!) I'm voting Labour - not massively enthusiastically. I generally would vote tactically against the Tories - so Lib Dems where they were the lead party; Greens in Waveney Valley.
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« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2024, 01:03:58 PM »

I prefer Starmer to Sunak.

The thing that worries me is if I don't vote Conservative and thereby indirectly help bring on  a Labour landslide then a huge Labour majority in Parliament, even if Starmer is a good chap, will be able to pass all sorts of things that I'm firmly opposed to such as further trans rights, rolling back of religious freedoms, attacks on private schooling, recognition of terrorist entities like "Palestine", open immigration and so on. If electing a Labour majority meant electing 326 Keir Starmer clones it might not be such a problem but in reality a Labour majority with 500 Labour MPs means there are enough votes for all sorts of crap to get passed.

This is why, despite everything, I feel like I have to vote Conservative to save the furniture and stop the worst excesses of the radical wing of the Labour Party.
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« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2024, 04:13:25 PM »

I prefer Starmer to Sunak.

The thing that worries me is if I don't vote Conservative and thereby indirectly help bring on  a Labour landslide then a huge Labour majority in Parliament, even if Starmer is a good chap, will be able to pass all sorts of things that I'm firmly opposed to such as further trans rights, rolling back of religious freedoms, attacks on private schooling, recognition of terrorist entities like "Palestine", open immigration and so on. If electing a Labour majority meant electing 326 Keir Starmer clones it might not be such a problem but in reality a Labour majority with 500 Labour MPs means there are enough votes for all sorts of crap to get passed.

This is why, despite everything, I feel like I have to vote Conservative to save the furniture and stop the worst excesses of the radical wing of the Labour Party.
what seat you live in and why do u prefer keir
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« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2024, 05:14:24 PM »

The continuity SDP candidate's spread in the booklet of mayoral mini-manifestos that gets sent out to every London voter was centred around 'Stand Up To Woke' in large letters. They seem pretty much indistinguishable from a crankish far-right populist outfit these days.
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« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2024, 09:35:18 AM »

The continuity SDP candidate's spread in the booklet of mayoral mini-manifestos that gets sent out to every London voter was centred around 'Stand Up To Woke' in large letters. They seem pretty much indistinguishable from a crankish far-right populist outfit these days.

They gave similar impressions in South Yorkshire.
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« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2024, 10:42:14 AM »

Liberal Democrats - the anti-Tory tactical vote in my seat but I'm happy to vote for them regardless and would definitely consider them in more general circumstances.
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