North Dakota and Montana; county target? % of vote for obama?

[AngelFromKansas]

To grow a party where you have no groundgame is not easy. but progress can not be deemed through victory but sustaining growth through votes and gaining counties.

For the last 20 years Democrats have not grown their vote in north dakota. ITS roughly around 110,000. For progress Obama needs to increase the number of people voting for him and the party needs to sustain it to make north dakota a viable state to invest in. The party needs to breakdown the state into counties and specifically target them as races. The more counties you win the more successful you are becoming to reaching your goal.

Kerry won 4 counties in North Dakota.
Kerry won 6 counties in Montana

I think in Montana a great result for democrats would be to get over 45% of the vote. it would mean a significant shift in the state and that should lead to at least 15 counties voting democrat. it will be interesting to see how obama does in counties even clinton won.

North dakota would be a victory if obama got 45% of the vote. i dont think he can do it. i would be impressed if he found another 15,000 votes from somewhere. a vote total of 125,000 would be progress. what % that brgins so be it.

so i think obama can get 45% in montana and will win around 15 counties
north dakota no around 125,000 votes that should get around 42% of the votethat could lead to a double figure number of counties.

[memphis]

Breaking 45% in these states could be done with a lot of help from Dorgan, Conrad, Tester, and the rest, but it's not worth it. Obama's time is scarce and it doesn't make any sense to campaign really hard in extrmely low population states that are beyond his reach anyway. Better to campaign in PA, MI, FL, and OH.

[Lief 🗽]

I think he'll get something like 43%. Getting up to 45% is a bit harder.