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« on: December 08, 2012, 09:12:08 PM »

If Tim Scott is picked as the next Senator from SC, does he instantly become a national figure?

I'm assuming he wins reelection in 2014 because:
(a) He is very conservative, so he'd be conservative enough for the base and
(b) Racism will play little role because there are a large amount of (R)s who are not racist and there is enough post-modern racism out there where the sort of soft racism redoubles into itself in the form of enthusiasm for one of their own (see: Cain, Herman).

So if we apply this to 2016 or 2020:

1. Is he the front runner for VP? Or will his staunch conservatism risk alienating folks?

My guess is he would buttress someone like Chris Christie (although he probably won't need conservacred). He can also perform an inverse Palin if Hillary is the nominee. (Although Scott would be far more qualified)

2. If Hillary or another democrat wins in 2016, does he become a contender for 2020? Especially if he's a losing Veep, my guess is yes.
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2012, 09:55:37 PM »

When will the GOP realize that they will not win over blacks and Latinos by putting a token on the bottom of the ticket? Minority voters can look through the wrapping easily, and they can still tell that the gift inside is unchanged. Policy positions have to change (or at the very least, make sure that the Joe Arpaios and Paul Brouns and Todd Akins and Louie Gohmerts of the party either shut up or get out).

The GOP will not actually win a plurality/majority of the Latino vote until a landslide election in a few decades. At that point, many white Latinos will have integrated to the point where pandering to them is as useless as specifically pandering to Italians in New York or Poles in Pennsylvania, and will vote more in a way that working-class whites did in the middle of the 20th century (chances are the generally poorer nonwhite Latinos will still remain Democratic). However, if their strategy is to actually sit and wait until Latinos are no longer seen as a "race", they shouldn't expect to win many elections in the near future.

What would actually help them win over some of the Latino community in 2016 and 2020 would be to move towards the "compassionate conservative" model of George W. Bush (and Jeb). They obviously won't (and don't have to) drop fiscal conservatism; what needs to change is tone and moderation. They could be the party that opens up discussion on education reform. And like the Tories in Canada, they could remains socially conservative, but instead of a personhood amendment or defunding Planned Parenthood, that social conservatism could be retooled into "American values" (family, hard work, etc). That would help with Latinos, but probably cause major gains with Asian voters (who are generally conservative, but not in a way that the current GOP represents).
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2012, 11:07:31 PM »

Much would depend on his political talents.

But I don't think he would be a Veep frontrunner, as what he offers won't really be that impressive.

There are other candidates who are more likely to swing essential states and/ or appeal to groups Republicans need to win in 2016.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2012, 11:53:27 PM »

Sadly, even if Senator Scott would otherwise be a good choice as the nominee, he'll never be picked because he would be perceived as a token running mate and thus not a good choice.
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