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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2017, 11:41:53 AM »

I didn't think he'd make it.

Funny how the 4 Presidents to make it to 93 are 4 consecutive Presidents.

George HW Bush 93 years 166 days
Gerald Ford 93 years 165 days
Ronald Reagan 93 years 120 days
Jimmy Carter 93 years 55 days

Probably every President after them will too... Bill Clinton, George W Bush, Barack Obama, maybe even Trump.

Strongly doubt that Clinton lives to his 90s. He's not a healthy man.

Hillary, though, will live until she’s 109 due to Republicans keeping her alive to trot her out every 4 years and attack the democratic candidate through attacking her.

It’ll be 2056 and cries of “but HER emails” and “Benghazi” will still be heard
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2017, 02:42:54 PM »

I didn't think he'd make it.

Funny how the 4 Presidents to make it to 93 are 4 consecutive Presidents.

George HW Bush 93 years 166 days
Gerald Ford 93 years 165 days
Ronald Reagan 93 years 120 days
Jimmy Carter 93 years 55 days

Probably every President after them will too... Bill Clinton, George W Bush, Barack Obama, maybe even Trump.

No, 93 is pretty old. If it was that easy to obtain then at least 1 of the 35 Presidents before them would have made it to at least 91.

Life expectancy has increased, especially for the wealthy. Former Presidents get the best healthcare in the world.
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2017, 06:56:27 PM »

I didn't think he'd make it.

Funny how the 4 Presidents to make it to 93 are 4 consecutive Presidents.

George HW Bush 93 years 166 days
Gerald Ford 93 years 165 days
Ronald Reagan 93 years 120 days
Jimmy Carter 93 years 55 days

Probably every President after them will too... Bill Clinton, George W Bush, Barack Obama, maybe even Trump.

Strongly doubt that Clinton lives to his 90s. He's not a healthy man.
I'd be surprised if he's still alive in 20 years. Bush Jr. has a better chance. Even though Trump is unhealthy I think he'll make it to 85, purely because of his long-lived ancestors.
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2017, 07:53:28 PM »

I didn't think he'd make it.

Funny how the 4 Presidents to make it to 93 are 4 consecutive Presidents.

George HW Bush 93 years 166 days
Gerald Ford 93 years 165 days
Ronald Reagan 93 years 120 days
Jimmy Carter 93 years 55 days

Probably every President after them will too... Bill Clinton, George W Bush, Barack Obama, maybe even Trump.

No, 93 is pretty old. If it was that easy to obtain then at least 1 of the 35 Presidents before them would have made it to at least 91.

Life expectancy has increased, especially for the wealthy. Former Presidents get the best healthcare in the world.
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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2017, 08:40:35 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.
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« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2017, 08:44:24 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?
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« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2017, 08:45:19 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992#Analysis

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« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2017, 08:54:46 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?

It was only a quagmire because we left instead of taking McCain's advice for a 100-year troop presence.
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« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2017, 09:02:27 PM »
« Edited: November 26, 2017, 09:15:06 PM by Fmr. Acting Southern Del. The Saint »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?

It was only a quagmire because we left instead of taking McCain's advice for a 100-year troop presence.

That would not be an appropriate timeline at all for having troops in Iraq
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« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2017, 09:13:52 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?

It was only a quagmire because we left instead of taking McCain's advice for a 100-year troop presence.

It was a quagmire long before the 2008 election.
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« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2017, 09:39:36 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?

It was only a quagmire because we left instead of taking McCain's advice for a 100-year troop presence.

It was a quagmire long before the 2008 election.

I remember that around 2008/2009 statistics indicated that Baghdad was safer than Chicago, so I'm not sure what you guys are referring to. The first few years of an occupation are almost always messy, but if we had a 50 or 100 year troop presence instead of leaving in 2011 things would be much better in Iraq now. ISIS would have never happened and Iran wouldn't have drug Iraq into their sphere of influence. In the future, Iraq would have become something similar to Japan or Germany today.
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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2017, 09:01:05 AM »

Or Saddam could've just never been installed in the first place.
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« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2017, 09:39:23 AM »

Hopefully Obama will also see this milestone.
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« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2017, 11:53:40 AM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?

It was only a quagmire because we left instead of taking McCain's advice for a 100-year troop presence.
You sometimes sound like a Democrat pretending to be a Republican for the lulz.
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« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2017, 01:34:36 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?

It was only a quagmire because we left instead of taking McCain's advice for a 100-year troop presence.
You sometimes sound like a Democrat pretending to be a Republican for the lulz.

Yeah, I know. I'm serious though. I'm truly a McCain Republican.
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« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2017, 01:36:04 PM »
« Edited: November 27, 2017, 01:37:53 PM by HillGoose »


I honestly think Obama will far surpass it. I feel like by the time I'm 75 it'll be pretty normal for people to live to 110+

Back in 2010 I looked at increases in life expectancy over the past 100 or so years, using an average I somehow calculated that someone born in 2000 would catch up to life expectancy at around the age of 106. So there's that, for an average person.
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« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2017, 03:15:22 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?

It was only a quagmire because we left instead of taking McCain's advice for a 100-year troop presence.

Buy, read, and learn https://www.amazon.com/Decline-Empire-Volumes-Everymans-Library/dp/0307700763/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1511813694&sr=8-2&keywords=decline+and+fall+of+the+roman+empire
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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2017, 06:02:41 PM »

Good for him I guess.
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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2017, 08:34:16 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?

It was only a quagmire because we left instead of taking McCain's advice for a 100-year troop presence.
You sometimes sound like a Democrat pretending to be a Republican for the lulz.

Yeah, I know. I'm serious though. I'm truly a McCain Republican.

Well, we don't have enough people for a 100-year occupation, and I and the majority of Americans do not want to pay taxes to sustain one anyway.
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« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2017, 09:26:05 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?

It was only a quagmire because we left instead of taking McCain's advice for a 100-year troop presence.

Buy, read, and learn https://www.amazon.com/Decline-Empire-Volumes-Everymans-Library/dp/0307700763/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1511813694&sr=8-2&keywords=decline+and+fall+of+the+roman+empire

How do I know that isn't Red propaganda?

To be completely honest, I don't even really believe that the world existed at all before 1815.
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« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2017, 09:27:23 PM »

Hell yeah.

What makes me sad was that he lost in '92 because of goddamn Perot. If Bush had just gone all the way to Baghdad and kicked Saddam's ass, he would have won.

Why would any Republican wish the Iraq quagmire happened a decade earlier?

It was only a quagmire because we left instead of taking McCain's advice for a 100-year troop presence.

Buy, read, and learn https://www.amazon.com/Decline-Empire-Volumes-Everymans-Library/dp/0307700763/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1511813694&sr=8-2&keywords=decline+and+fall+of+the+roman+empire

How do I know that isn't Red propaganda?

To be completely honest, I don't even really believe that the world existed at all before 1815.

This isn't the 1950's anymore.
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« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2017, 01:03:14 AM »

John Adams was the oldest president from 1803 when he surpassed George Washington until 2002 when Reagan surpassed him.

Until Hoover came along (20 years after he was president), the top 6 spots were held by 6 of the first 8 (Adams, Madison, Jefferson, JQ Adams, Van Buren, and Jackson). Monroe was top 10. Only Washington did not make it to 70.

After Millard Fillmore made the Top 10 in 1868, it was unchanged until 1933 when Taft made it inore:

Adams
Madison
Jefferson
JQ Adams
Van Buren
Jackson
Buchanan
Fillmore
Monroe
Tyler

Fillmore (passed Monroe and Tyler after he entered the Top 10).

Taft was 10th, until 1947 when Hoover entered the Top 10. Truman entered the Top 10 in 1957 displacing Monroe. Eisenhower made it in 1964 displacing Fillmore. Reagan in 1988 displaced Buchanan. Nixon in 1991 displaced Jackson. Ford in 1992 displaced Eisenhower. GHW Bush in 2004 displaced Van Buren. Carter in 2005 displaced JQ Adams.

Reagan reached number one in 2002, Ford in 2007, and GHW Bush in 2015.

The current Top 10:

GHW Bush 93+168 +++
Ford 93+165
Reagan 93+120
Carter 93+57 +++
Adams 90+247
Hoover 90+71
Truman 88+323
Madison 85+104
Jefferson 83+82
Nixon 81+103

Trump 71+166+++
GW Bush 71+144+++
Clinton 71+100+++
Obama 56+115+++
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« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2017, 08:00:50 PM »

Trump must be the first President to ever have his age equal his IQ.
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