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« on: January 09, 2018, 09:43:28 PM »

I've read an interesting topic in this forum about what a brilliant choice Pence was for Trump.
Pence had had governing experience, he is not a loudmouth unlike Christie, he attracts the Christian wing of the GOP alienated by Trump, he was a very unpopular governor, he would probably has lost his gubernatorial election.
Who would be the Democratic equivalent as Winfrey's VP candidate, who could unify the party under such a highly divisive presidential candidate?
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 09:46:23 PM »

Maybe Cuomo?
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 09:53:59 PM »

Dan Malloy?
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 10:00:50 PM »


dan malloy maybe. I think Pence was more popular (I'm not really sure about that) but he fits enough. I'd throw in Mark Warner, he could bring establishment on board and has experience
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 10:45:17 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 10:46:31 PM »

Pence wasn't very unpopular. He still had a positive approval rating. He definitely would have won in Indiana in 2016.


https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_IN_101416/
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 10:54:57 PM »

Pence wasn't very unpopular. He still had a positive approval rating. He definitely would have won in Indiana in 2016.


https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_IN_101416/
Well, he'd have done worse than Holcomb.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 11:49:47 PM »

Pence did several things for Trump. He helped make inroads with the establishment, had conventional qualifications (congressional leader turned Governor), pleased much of the traditional base/ social conservatives, and added geographic diversity (midwesterner for the East Coast guy).

There are a few Democrats who might do similar stuff for Oprah, but her situation's a bit different. She's so associated with Chicago and the heartland (and grew up in the deep south) that a geographic match isn't a problem. Her political views seem to be relatively close to Hillary and Obama, so she wouldn't need a running mate with conventional views; it might actually make sense to go for someone in the Sanders camp.

She probably needs a running mate who's a white guy, rather than a ticket with two women or two minorities, so that's another consideration.

She can go in several directions.

Someone with solid qualifications and establishment ties would be Andrew Cuomo, a Governor, as well as a former top prosecutor and Cabinet official.

Mark Warner might fit this bill as a Senator and former Governor.

If she wants to get progressives on her side, Jeff Merkley was the only Senator to endorse Bernie Sanders, and has made Wall Street reform a key issue.

Someone who straddles the progressive and establishment camps would be Sherrod Brown.

Someone who could connect establishment Democrats while bringing a progressive record and a sense of a new generation would be Gavin Newsom, newly elected as Governor (presumably) but with a background since W's first term of prominent leftism.
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 11:53:58 PM »

Liz Warren is pretty much liked by both progressives and the establishment (or at least appeals to them.) She'd be good for pleasing the base.
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 12:03:35 AM »

Pence did several things for Trump. He helped make inroads with the establishment, had conventional qualifications (congressional leader turned Governor), pleased much of the traditional base/ social conservatives, and added geographic diversity (midwesterner for the East Coast guy).

There are a few Democrats who might do similar stuff for Oprah, but her situation's a bit different. She's so associated with Chicago and the heartland (and grew up in the deep south) that a geographic match isn't a problem. Her political views seem to be relatively close to Hillary and Obama, so she wouldn't need a running mate with conventional views; it might actually make sense to go for someone in the Sanders camp.

She probably needs a running mate who's a white guy, rather than a ticket with two women or two minorities, so that's another consideration.

She can go in several directions.

Someone with solid qualifications and establishment ties would be Andrew Cuomo, a Governor, as well as a former top prosecutor and Cabinet official.

Mark Warner might fit this bill as a Senator and former Governor.

If she wants to get progressives on her side, Jeff Merkley was the only Senator to endorse Bernie Sanders, and has made Wall Street reform a key issue.

Someone who straddles the progressive and establishment camps would be Sherrod Brown.

Someone who could connect establishment Democrats while bringing a progressive record and a sense of a new generation would be Gavin Newsom, newly elected as Governor (presumably) but with a background since W's first term of prominent leftism.
We need to dispel with this notion that Oprah is going to run for President. She's not.
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 12:33:30 AM »

I've read an interesting topic in this forum about what a brilliant choice Pence was for Trump.
Pence had had governing experience, he is not a loudmouth unlike Christie, he attracts the Christian wing of the GOP alienated by Trump, he was a very unpopular governor, he would probably has lost his gubernatorial election.
Who would be the Democratic equivalent as Winfrey's VP candidate, who could unify the party under such a highly divisive presidential candidate?
  lol Oprah is the least divisive Democrat there is.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 10:55:57 AM »

A progressive like Warren or Brown to coalesce the Democratic base
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 10:57:33 AM »

A progressive like Warren or Brown to coalesce the Democratic base
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2018, 01:29:34 PM »

Brown especially to dispel the "coastal elitist" vibe they'd have with Winfrey/Warren.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2018, 10:58:56 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2018, 11:01:10 PM by Mister Mets »

Pence did several things for Trump. He helped make inroads with the establishment, had conventional qualifications (congressional leader turned Governor), pleased much of the traditional base/ social conservatives, and added geographic diversity (midwesterner for the East Coast guy).

There are a few Democrats who might do similar stuff for Oprah, but her situation's a bit different. She's so associated with Chicago and the heartland (and grew up in the deep south) that a geographic match isn't a problem. Her political views seem to be relatively close to Hillary and Obama, so she wouldn't need a running mate with conventional views; it might actually make sense to go for someone in the Sanders camp.

She probably needs a running mate who's a white guy, rather than a ticket with two women or two minorities, so that's another consideration.

She can go in several directions.

Someone with solid qualifications and establishment ties would be Andrew Cuomo, a Governor, as well as a former top prosecutor and Cabinet official.

Mark Warner might fit this bill as a Senator and former Governor.

If she wants to get progressives on her side, Jeff Merkley was the only Senator to endorse Bernie Sanders, and has made Wall Street reform a key issue.

Someone who straddles the progressive and establishment camps would be Sherrod Brown.

Someone who could connect establishment Democrats while bringing a progressive record and a sense of a new generation would be Gavin Newsom, newly elected as Governor (presumably) but with a background since W's first term of prominent leftism.
We need to dispel with this notion that Oprah is going to run for President. She's not.
I have no idea if she is.

I responded to this thread thinking it was about Oprah finding an equivalent to Pence.

One factor is that Trump needed a Pence more than most of the other candidates would've.

Kasich, Corker and a few others basically took themselves out of the running, so Trump also had less people to choose from than a more traditional candidate would've had.

Their needs would also be a bit different. Jeb and Rubio wouldn't need someone who can make inroads to Washington Republicans.

Kristen Gilibrand, Joe Biden, Cory Booker, Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren wouldn't need the equivalent of Pence. Their needs would also be a little different, so the running mate who does several things for them would be different (IE- Tammy Duckworth makes sense as a running mate for Biden, but not for Kamala Harris.)
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 12:49:04 AM »

A Democrat who appeals to both the base and establishment with governing experience and a decent approval rating should be running for President, not Vice President.
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