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« on: May 25, 2021, 10:28:13 AM »

Is Black Lives Matter a Marxist organisation? I haven't seen much evidence for this claim, but I'm open to argument.
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2021, 10:51:51 AM »

Neither the major player Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation nor the group it is apart of, Movement for Black Lives are dominated by “Marxists” nor have many Marxists apart of them. Like, I believe several chapters on the west coast made by more militant members broke apart as the organization became way too close to the Democratic Party establishment. Most members are just young black community leaders, who are very much a multi-class composition, opposed to being second class citizens and, for the more upper class/relatively high income members, not getting opportunities for middle class cushion jobs.

In the Black Lives Matter protests, there were some “Marxists” as I know them out to protest and have led protests, but 90%+ of people out there were led by BLM Global Network and MFBL people, along with a smattering of church leaders and liberal organizations. Most protesters were just out there though to vent the cratering of their living standards as second class citizens in the age of a pandemic and economic crisis.

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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2021, 10:54:26 AM »

They are a manifestly revolutionary organisation who want to rip up the fabric of society. They were founded by "trained Marxists". Even if they don't cleave to The Communist Manifesto, their intellectual roots lie in those rather peculiar American Marxist intellectuals who seem quite popular nowadays. It might well be a slightly imprecise use of the term 'Marxist', but it accurately illustrates the cut of their jib.
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2021, 11:09:09 AM »
« Edited: May 27, 2021, 07:22:29 AM by Miramarian »

Is Black Lives Matter a Marxist organisation? I haven't seen much evidence for this claim, but I'm open to argument.

The main and largest* organization has a co-founder who described herself along with another co-founder as "trained Marxists" (whatever that's supposed to mean lol), while the majority of people who broadly support the movement and ending police brutality and support police reform (like me) aren't Marxists.

This is the quote if you don't believe it (and the link above where it comes from is Politifact, not a very right-wing source)

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"We do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers; we are trained Marxists. We are superversed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think what we really try to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many Black folks."
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2021, 11:49:53 AM »

The co-founded in question sold out to the establishment for said cushion job, regardless most protest leaders in organized marches were standard community leaders who don’t want to overthrow capitalism sadly, just to advance the community’s living standards.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2021, 02:06:49 PM »

"Trained Marxists" LMAO
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2021, 03:26:03 PM »

The BLM organization is not great, and I disagree with their ideology, and the "trained Marxist" bit was moronic. But, the ideology they hold has nothing to do with orthodox Marxism.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2021, 07:13:08 PM »


They needed more Marxist training, because clearly it didn't work for them.
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2021, 03:12:32 AM »

I always assumed ‘trained Marxists’ was a reference to so-called “scientific Marxism” and the claims to be able to predict the future which are bound up with that.
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2021, 06:16:32 AM »

Patrisse Cullors, the “trained Marxist” who was taught by Weather Underground figure Bill Ayers himself, has resigned from her position in the Movement for Black Lives. Previously, she was under scrutiny left and right for her actions related to acceptance of financial donations from large corporations and her new house in an upscale area respectively. On the left, such actions led to the defection of the Oakland and LA branches of BLM Global Network Foundation.
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2021, 09:27:30 AM »

Isn't the correct answer that Black Lives Matter is not actually a single organisation, let alone a Marxist one?
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2021, 09:48:58 AM »

Isn't the correct answer that Black Lives Matter is not actually a single organisation, let alone a Marxist one?
Ding ding ding!
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2021, 12:16:01 PM »

Isn't the correct answer that Black Lives Matter is not actually a single organisation, let alone a Marxist one?
Ding ding ding!
Marx would be rolling in his grave given what people call "Marxist" these days
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2021, 05:12:47 PM »

Isn't the correct answer that Black Lives Matter is not actually a single organisation, let alone a Marxist one?
Ding ding ding!
BLM is a garbage organization which doesn’t care about black lives.

And for all those who say “that’s only the organization not the movement as a whole”, the movement started from the organization. They are one in the same. If you want a racial justice and anti police brutality decentralized rallying cry, find another slogan.
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2021, 09:19:07 PM »

What exactly does Marxist training entail, anyway?
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2021, 10:48:21 PM »

What exactly does Marxist training entail, anyway?
You should find out and undertake it.
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2021, 07:19:21 AM »

Um, no.
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2021, 07:55:56 AM »

What exactly does Marxist training entail, anyway?

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2021, 08:15:15 AM »

What exactly does Marxist training entail, anyway?
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2021, 11:41:12 AM »
« Edited: June 01, 2021, 11:52:26 AM by stupid »

Whether they are Marxist or not is irrelevant to whether they are a good organization or not imho.
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2021, 04:49:30 PM »

What exactly does Marxist training entail, anyway?
Mostly just lengthy explanations about the price of linen
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2021, 06:38:59 PM »


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