More Terrorism in Moscow

[Brambila]

10 people killed; 50 wounded in the attack.

Russia has to do something drastic to the Chechnyan mainland, or it's going to get worse.

[English]

Like what?
I'd let them have their independence. Build a massive wall between Chechnya and Russia.

[minionofmidas]

10 people killed; 50 wounded in the attack.

Russia has to do something drastic to the Chechnyan mainland, or it's going to get worse.

ie, pull the f* out.

[Brambila]

I say start a 75-day bombing of Chechen-supportive area. If women and children die in the process, so be it, for peace in the future.

[English]

...and you claim you aren't a troll?

This would just create 10 thousand new terrorists Brambila.
There is no sensible reason for Russia clinging onto Chechnya. They'd be better off without it.
It kind of reminds me of the situation in Northern Ireland. Get rid!!

[minionofmidas]

I say start a 75-day bombing of Chechen-supportive area. If women and children die in the process, so be it, for peace in the future.

They've started a 200-year version of that 200 years ago...look where it got them.

[Beaver]

...and you claim you aren't a troll?

I am getting so tired of people calling others trolls like that.....just because you don't agree DOESN'T MEAN HE'S A TROLL!!

Agreed

[??????????]

...and you claim you aren't a troll?

This would just create 10 thousand new terrorists Brambila.
There is no sensible reason for Russia clinging onto Chechnya. They'd be better off without it.
It kind of reminds me of the situation in Northern Ireland. Get rid!!

Ireland deserves independence 100% of Ireland...all of it. The English were very brutal towards the Irish including raping Irish women and starving families to death.

[A18]

Yes, Ireland deserves complete independence from itself.

[??????????]

Yes, Ireland deserves complete independence from itself.

I meant that N.I. needs the occupying forces removed either willingly or by the UN.

[Brambila]

...and you claim you aren't a troll?

This would just create 10 thousand new terrorists Brambila.
There is no sensible reason for Russia clinging onto Chechnya. They'd be better off without it.
It kind of reminds me of the situation in Northern Ireland. Get rid!!

Please explain how that is trollish. It's a very honest opinion. In addition, I say that Muslims have attempted to do that, but have failed because they don't have the resources. We have the resources, so why not take advantage of what we have. If you frighten people enough, they will fear you and stop.

What's your solution? Give Chechnya independance? Yes. And watch them launch a Jihad on Russia for all the Muslims living in Circassia/North Caucasus. Then they'll march into the heart of Europe as they did in the 1500s in Vienna.

[freedomburns]

I say start a 75-day bombing of Chechen-supportive area. If women and children die in the process, so be it, for peace in the future.

You are a kook, a troll, a dangerous warmonger and a person of questionable moral character.  Advocating the killing of innocent muslim women and children is exactly why I would condone our government taking actions and giving money to aid a "terrorist" organization in attempting to blow up haters and murderers like you.

[Brambila]

I say start a 75-day bombing of Chechen-supportive area. If women and children die in the process, so be it, for peace in the future.

You are a kook, a troll, a dangerous warmonger and a person of questionable moral character.  Advocating the killing of innocent muslim women and children is exactly why I would condone our government taking actions and giving money to aid a "terrorist" organization in attempting to blow up haters and murderers like you.

I'm not saying we should direct the bombings to children. But if they die, it's for the security of Russian children, and ultimately, Chechnyan children. Many more are being killed. Too many.

[Michael Z]

I say start a 75-day bombing of Chechen-supportive area. If women and children die in the process, so be it, for peace in the future.

You are a kook, a troll, a dangerous warmonger and a person of questionable moral character.  Advocating the killing of innocent muslim women and children is exactly why I would condone our government taking actions and giving money to aid a "terrorist" organization in attempting to blow up haters and murderers like you.

I'm not saying we should direct the bombings to children. But if they die, it's for the security of Russian children, and ultimately, Chechnyan children. Many more are being killed. Too many.

Ironically it's precisely that kind of tactic (large-scale bombing of Chechnya) which has been applied for the last decade and has now resulted in the mess we see before us. Retribution begets retribution, and simply by enforcing a policy of death and destruction upon the "other" you are not forcing them into submission. On the contrary.

I'm certainly not excusing what is happening in Russia right now, but the reason Russian children are being threatened is due to the fact that Chechen children have already died, bringing forth calls of retribution. The old adage of how an action creates a reaction and ultimately that reaction causes another reaction (and so forth) springs to mind.

In short, what you're suggesting would only cause more bloodshed on both sides.

[English]

Yes, Ireland deserves complete independence from itself.

I meant that N.I. needs the occupying forces removed either willingly or by the UN.

I find it hilarious when Americans talk about Northern Ireland. 90% of them haven't got a clue!
Let me explain.
The British forces were sent into Northern Ireland to keep the peace, they are not occupying forces, their original role was as peacekeepers. Their job was to try and keep the peace between the majority protestants and minority catholics!
Personally I am in favour of a united Ireland, however it's never going to happen because the majority of Northern Irish want to remain part of the UK.
Get it?
About 60% of the population of Northern Ireland (the protestants) wish to remain part of the UK! If you want proof look at the recent elections which saw the hardline catholic hating DUP elected as the largest party.

[2952-0-0]

...and you claim you aren't a troll?

This would just create 10 thousand new terrorists Brambila.
There is no sensible reason for Russia clinging onto Chechnya. They'd be better off without it.
It kind of reminds me of the situation in Northern Ireland. Get rid!!

Ireland deserves independence 100% of Ireland...all of it. The English were very brutal towards the Irish including raping Irish women and starving families to death.

You're only saying that because you are Irish. If you were not you would say Britain should nuke Dublin or something.

[Michael Z]

Northern Ireland exists due to this; back in 1921, when the UK decided to grant Ireland independence, Northern Ireland decided to stay on as part of the United Kingdom due to the fact that half of the people in NI regard themselves as Irish, the other half as British. And that's really where the crux of the problem lies, since the region has been in a state of civil war since.

Anyway, I'm with English on this one. I'm a bit fed up with Americans berating us about "giving Ireland back to the Irish" when they don't seem to know much about the issues. Trust me, most Brits are sick and tired of this whole thing and would GLADLY get the hell out of NI. Unfortunately they can't, because if they did the two communities there would tear each other apart.

[Brambila]

I say start a 75-day bombing of Chechen-supportive area. If women and children die in the process, so be it, for peace in the future.

You are a kook, a troll, a dangerous warmonger and a person of questionable moral character.  Advocating the killing of innocent muslim women and children is exactly why I would condone our government taking actions and giving money to aid a "terrorist" organization in attempting to blow up haters and murderers like you.

I'm not saying we should direct the bombings to children. But if they die, it's for the security of Russian children, and ultimately, Chechnyan children. Many more are being killed. Too many.

Ironically it's precisely that kind of tactic (large-scale bombing of Chechnya) which has been applied for the last decade and has now resulted in the mess we see before us. Retribution begets retribution, and simply by enforcing a policy of death and destruction upon the "other" you are not forcing them into submission. On the contrary.

I'm certainly not excusing what is happening in Russia right now, but the reason Russian children are being threatened is due to the fact that Chechen children have already died, bringing forth calls of retribution. The old adage of how an action creates a reaction and ultimately that reaction causes another reaction (and so forth) springs to mind.

In short, what you're suggesting would only cause more bloodshed on both sides.

No, you're absolutely wrong. Yeltsin's plans were working, but two problems arose. First of all, Al-Qaeda took control of Chechnya, and heavily influenced the Chechnyan people. Before, they were more secular. Second of all, Yeltsin stopped the invasion of Chechnya. He should have continued the invasion. It has absolutely nothing to invading Chechnya, because that's not what has been going on. Putin is very weak for pushing aside the war that has been placed on his lap.

If children are killed in the bombing, I call out for Putin to seriously damage Chechnya. Give the Chechnyans a 48 hour warning.

[??????????]

Yes, Ireland deserves complete independence from itself.

I meant that N.I. needs the occupying forces removed either willingly or by the UN.

I find it hilarious when Americans talk about Northern Ireland. 90% of them haven't got a clue!
Let me explain.
The British forces were sent into Northern Ireland to keep the peace, they are not occupying forces, their original role was as peacekeepers. Their job was to try and keep the peace between the majority protestants and minority catholics!
Personally I am in favour of a united Ireland, however it's never going to happen because the majority of Northern Irish want to remain part of the UK.
Get it?
About 60% of the population of Northern Ireland (the protestants) wish to remain part of the UK! If you want proof look at the recent elections which saw the hardline catholic hating DUP elected as the largest party.

The only reason N.I. is so protestant is because families were starved and women were raped and the original Catholics were forced to convert or starve to death. BTW, I am NOT Irish, but my wife is and knows loads about Irish history as do I. Most British would dismiss the the Irish potatoe famine as just a tragic event, when in fact the British used it to brutalized the Irish. The British also treated Scotland like dogs as well.

[ThePrezMex]

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I agree on this with Brambila.

[English]

The only reason N.I. is so protestant is because families were starved and women were raped and the original Catholics were forced to convert or starve to death. BTW, I am NOT Irish, but my wife is and knows loads about Irish history as do I. Most British would dismiss the the Irish potatoe famine as just a tragic event, when in fact the British used it to brutalized the Irish. The British also treated Scotland like dogs as well.

You've been watching too many hollywood movies Statesrights!
Firstly the Scots ARE British!! Great Britain is the island, of which England, Wales and Scotland are constituent nations. We're all British!
Secondly,  the protestant nature of NI is due to Scottish settlers who sailed across to Ulster in the 17th century. It has nothing to do with the native Irish being starved or forced to convert. I agree Britain has a shameful history in Ireland, I've never denied it. In fact I would like Northern Ireland to join with Eire. If you knew anything about the NI situation you would know that most English actually favour a united Ireland!! We don't want the damn place, it's the protestants in NI that want us!! If we pulled out of Northern Ireland the place would decend into civil war. Can you not understand this?
As for Scotland, you're wrong again. The aristocracy brutalised the Scots, just as they did the poor people of England, or anyone else who disagreed with them. It was no fun for the average English peasant either you know!!
It constantly annoys me the way the English are demonised in hollywood movies, it's simply nonsense. England has never been one united country anyway, it's far more complicated. Places like Cornwall for example has more in common with Wales and Scotland than England.

[??????????]

The only reason N.I. is so protestant is because families were starved and women were raped and the original Catholics were forced to convert or starve to death. BTW, I am NOT Irish, but my wife is and knows loads about Irish history as do I. Most British would dismiss the the Irish potatoe famine as just a tragic event, when in fact the British used it to brutalized the Irish. The British also treated Scotland like dogs as well.

You've been watching too many hollywood movies Statesrights!
Firstly the Scots ARE British!! Great Britain is the island, of which England, Wales and Scotland are constituent nations. We're all British!
Secondly,  the protestant nature of NI is due to Scottish settlers who sailed across to Ulster in the 17th century. It has nothing to do with the native Irish being starved or forced to convert. I agree Britain has a shameful history in Ireland, I've never denied it. In fact I would like Northern Ireland to join with Eire. If you knew anything about the NI situation you would know that most English actually favour a united Ireland!! We don't want the damn place, it's the protestants in NI that want us!! If we pulled out of Northern Ireland the place would decend into civil war. Can you not understand this?
As for Scotland, you're wrong again. The aristocracy brutalised the Scots, just as they did the poor people of England, or anyone else who disagreed with them. It was no fun for the average English peasant either you know!!
It constantly annoys me the way the English are demonised in hollywood movies, it's simply nonsense. England has never been one united country anyway, it's far more complicated. Places like Cornwall for example has more in common with Wales and Scotland than England.

What I wrote is the version of history we get over here.