Republican Revolution.....

[Reaganfan]

Many (myself included) believe that we are headed for another long time period of GOP Presidents. Like we had back in the 1800's and early 1900's:

16. Lincoln RE-ELECTED BUT KILLED
18. Grant TWO TERMS
19. Hayes
20. Garfield KILLED SHORTLY AFTER ELECTED
21. Arthur NEVER WON HIS OWN TERM
23. Harrison
25. McKinley RE-ELECTED BUT KILLED
26. TR
27. Taft
Only 3 Democrat Presidents in between. How about the future:

43. Bush
44. Giuliani
45. Rice
46. Huckabee? Who KNOWS?

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

It's interesting that the Republicans in the era you cited won pretty much the exact same states that the Democrats are winning now.

Compare 1896 to 2000.  Out of 45 states, only 6 voted for a Republican in both elections (McKinley & Bush), while only one state voted for a Dem in both (Bryan & Gore).  And with Ohio, WV, and NH possible Kerry pick-ups, the correlation could be even higher this time around!

From 1860-1872, the GOP dominated partially because many Southern (then Democratic) states were literally disenfranchised (and rightly so).

I could see an analogy b/w 2000 and the disputed election in 1876, which set off a string of close elections, and ended in the GOP reversing their platform a couple times with TR & Taft.

[opebo]

Many (myself included) believe that we are headed for another long time period of GOP Presidents. Like we had back in the 1800's and early 1900's:

16. Lincoln RE-ELECTED BUT KILLED
18. Grant TWO TERMS
19. Hayes
20. Garfield KILLED SHORTLY AFTER ELECTED
21. Arthur NEVER WON HIS OWN TERM
23. Harrison
25. McKinley RE-ELECTED BUT KILLED
26. TR
27. Taft
Only 3 Democrat Presidents in between. How about the future:

43. Bush
44. Giuliani
45. Rice
46. Huckabee? Who KNOWS?

I think you're right if Bush wins.. if he loses I see Dems for a bit.  If he loses the next Dem can take credit for the boom Bush will leave him - just like Clinton did with the Bush senior/Reagan boom of the 1990's.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Giuliani? Rice?? Huckabee???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

That is just TOO FUNNY!!!

[zachman]

If the democrats do lose this time I think the Republican revolution could hold- but only if Bush acts responsively, and I don't think he ever will.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Huckabee's over the hill now...

[angus]

Do you think Huckabee uses a big stick when he beats his wife?  I think he's more of an open-handed kinda guy.

[ncjake]

Giuliani? Rice?? Huckabee???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

That is just TOO FUNNY!!!

yeah, Giuliani and Rice are real funny. I've got a funnier one for ya. A fat womanizing hillbilly straight out of an Arkansas trailer park.  

[Filuwaúrdjan]

yeah, Giuliani and Rice are real funny. I've got a funnier one for ya. A fat womanizing hillbilly straight out of an Arkansas trailer park.  

And you lot call the Democrats elitist...

[classical liberal]

Do you think Huckabee uses a big stick when he beats his wife?  I think he's more of an open-handed kinda guy.

Rule of Thumb

[ncjake]

yeah, Giuliani and Rice are real funny. I've got a funnier one for ya. A fat womanizing hillbilly straight out of an Arkansas trailer park.  

And you lot call the Democrats elitist...

The differance is I don't detest the poor like the Democrats. Its not about money its about attitude. I consider myself to be quite poor, my family is very very poor. But we dont act like trash. See, for the Democrats poor=trash.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I draw attention to the use of the words: "hillbilly" and "trailor park" in what you wrote.
Hypocrite

[dunn]

yeah, Giuliani and Rice are real funny. I've got a funnier one for ya. A fat womanizing hillbilly straight out of an Arkansas trailer park.  

And you lot call the Democrats elitist...

The differance is I don't detest the poor like the Democrats. Its not about money its about attitude. I consider myself to be quite poor, my family is very very poor. But we dont act like trash. See, for the Democrats poor=trash.

It's the richthat treat the poor as tash. And there are less rich dems then reps

[ncjake]

yeah, Giuliani and Rice are real funny. I've got a funnier one for ya. A fat womanizing hillbilly straight out of an Arkansas trailer park.  

And you lot call the Democrats elitist...

The differance is I don't detest the poor like the Democrats. Its not about money its about attitude. I consider myself to be quite poor, my family is very very poor. But we dont act like trash. See, for the Democrats poor=trash.

It's the richthat treat the poor as tash. And there are less rich dems then reps

The Libs hate the poor, because the poor are religious, patriotic types.

[12th Doctor]

I think that if Bush wins then we could be headed for an era of Republican dominance.  One thing is clear, who ever wins this election will set the agenda for the next couple of decades.  Even if Bush wins and a Dem is elected in 2008, that Dem will have to opperate in the frame work set up by Bush.  That is why this election is so important.

[ncjake]

I draw attention to the use of the words: "hillbilly" and "trailor park" in what you wrote.
Hypocrite

How does that make me a hypocrite? When did I say I liked Hillbillies or trailor parks?

[12th Doctor]

yeah, Giuliani and Rice are real funny. I've got a funnier one for ya. A fat womanizing hillbilly straight out of an Arkansas trailer park.  

And you lot call the Democrats elitist...

The differance is I don't detest the poor like the Democrats. Its not about money its about attitude. I consider myself to be quite poor, my family is very very poor. But we dont act like trash. See, for the Democrats poor=trash.

And there are less rich dems then reps

LMAO  If you really believe that then you are living in a fantasy world.  The wealthy are far more liberal than the poor and the middle-class.

[dunn]

yeah, Giuliani and Rice are real funny. I've got a funnier one for ya. A fat womanizing hillbilly straight out of an Arkansas trailer park.  

And you lot call the Democrats elitist...

The differance is I don't detest the poor like the Democrats. Its not about money its about attitude. I consider myself to be quite poor, my family is very very poor. But we dont act like trash. See, for the Democrats poor=trash.

It's the richthat treat the poor as tash. And there are less rich dems then reps

The Libs hate the poor, because the poor are religious, patriotic types.

Native American are poor and votes democrats. Afro American are less then average income speaking, and they vot democrats. the chances are: if you are rich you vote for tax cutting reps. if you are poor you vote health care reform dems

[12th Doctor]

Not to mention that lower class people who vote Democrat are generally social conservatives.

[Kghadial]

Many (myself included) believe that we are headed for another long time period of GOP Presidents. Like we had back in the 1800's and early 1900's:

16. Lincoln RE-ELECTED BUT KILLED
18. Grant TWO TERMS
19. Hayes
20. Garfield KILLED SHORTLY AFTER ELECTED
21. Arthur NEVER WON HIS OWN TERM
23. Harrison
25. McKinley RE-ELECTED BUT KILLED
26. TR
27. Taft
Only 3 Democrat Presidents in between. How about the future:

43. Bush
44. Giuliani
45. Rice
46. Huckabee? Who KNOWS?

I think you're right if Bush wins.. if he loses I see Dems for a bit.  If he loses the next Dem can take credit for the boom Bush will leave him - just like Clinton did with the Bush senior/Reagan boom of the 1990's.

Bush Boom? Republicans have been predicting a bush boom every quarter since mid 2002.  They run around and say we will have 300,000 new jobs next month and GDP will increase at a 8% annual rate ... it's funny to think of dissapearing dick running around. Can't you see Cheney running around screaming about job gains. Republicans should scream more, a good scream can do a body good.

Seriously, you need Deadlock if you want a boom, because deadlock = stability , stability = big spending .  I personally won't invest a cent of my pitiful life savings into stock markets, or go on a spending spree unless we have some deadlock in Washington. '94 to '99 was pure Gingrich on Clinton deadlock it was a beautiful time for the economy. Obviously this rule is not a cardinal one or anything, but on the whole in a pro-business climate like we have now deadlock is a beautiful thing.

So yes there will be a "bush boom" if Kerry is elected but that's because he won't be able do more than cosmetic changes to anything.  If Bush is reelected and the senate and House become prohibitively Republican we won't have deadlock and the economy will not reach its full potential.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Not to mention that lower class people who vote Democrat are generally social conservatives.

Wrong.

[ncjake]

Not to mention that lower class people who vote Democrat are generally social conservatives.

Wrong.

Actually, your an idiot if you think most poor democrats arent social conservatives. Yeah the welfare queens and drug addicts are liberal. But Native Americans, Mexicans, and Blacks tend to be socially conservative.

[angus]

Not to mention that lower class people who vote Democrat are generally social conservatives.

Wrong.

Actually, your an idiot if you think most poor democrats arent social conservatives. Yeah the welfare queens and drug addicts are liberal. But Native Americans, Mexicans, and Blacks tend to be socially conservative.

this is wisdom  
i begin to think opebo was right too

[angus]

And you lot call the Democrats elitist...

do you suppose daniel elazar's model of Political Culture still accurately reflects demographics in this country?  more or less.  Or have we morphed into something which can't be characterized in this simple fashion, even accounting for internal migratory patterns from the snowbelt to the sunbelt?

[12th Doctor]

Not to mention that lower class people who vote Democrat are generally social conservatives.

Wrong.

Actually, your an idiot if you think most poor democrats arent social conservatives. Yeah the welfare queens and drug addicts are liberal. But Native Americans, Mexicans, and Blacks tend to be socially conservative.

This is very true.