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« on: January 24, 2004, 02:59:38 PM »

This is actually a semi-random thought, but just think about it. Edwards is the "nice" guy who doesn't attack anyone. If he does fairly well and wins some Southern states, bit Kerry wins all or almost all the others, then do they pool their delegates at the convention, repeating the Kennedy-Johnson axis? He actually is the perfect or near-perfect veep for Kerry. He'd do better leading a ticket, but I don't think tat will happen. What do you all think?
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2004, 03:03:47 PM »

This is actually a semi-random thought, but just think about it. Edwards is the "nice" guy who doesn't attack anyone. If he does fairly well and wins some Southern states, bit Kerry wins all or almost all the others, then do they pool their delegates at the convention, repeating the Kennedy-Johnson axis? He actually is the perfect or near-perfect veep for Kerry. He'd do better leading a ticket, but I don't think tat will happen. What do you all think?

Can't arguee with you.  That's the point I tried to make on the Running-mate thread.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2004, 03:06:54 PM »

Oh, sorry! I'll have to take a look at that.
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2004, 03:08:47 PM »

Bill and Hillary's worst nightmare.  President Kerry serves two terms thru 2012.  Vice President Edwards then emerges as the heir apparent in 2012, is elected and serves 2 terms thru 2020.  

It would almost be worth it.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2004, 03:10:33 PM »

Almost. But president Giuliani is even better. So, Bush-Cheney '04!
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2004, 03:43:01 PM »

Almost. But president Giuliani is even better. So, Bush-Cheney '04!

Bush-Rice '04
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2004, 04:03:56 PM »

Bill and Hillary's worst nightmare.  President Kerry serves two terms thru 2012.  Vice President Edwards then emerges as the heir apparent in 2012, is elected and serves 2 terms thru 2020.  

It would almost be worth it.

that is a good way to look at it
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2004, 04:30:19 PM »

Nothing is certain, except for Howard Dean's nomination...and look at how that turned out.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2004, 06:41:25 PM »

IF Kerry is the nominee, then Edwards is a likely VP-choice. But only if Edwards does well in the Southern primaries, so he shows his electability down there.
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2004, 07:38:58 PM »

My guess is that in the southern primaries, Edwards beats Clark.  The big thing Clark had going for him was that he was the anti Dean candidate.  That position has now been filled by Kerry and Edwards so Clark's services are no longer needed.  That coupled with obvious inexperience on the campaign trail has resulted in the bloom falling off his rose of late.  He leaves NH with negative momentum and that's trouble with Edwards coming on strong of late.

Look for Kerry and Edwards to be the last two standing at convention time with Kerry having the slight advantage.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2004, 07:40:15 PM »

Almost. But president Giuliani is even better. So, Bush-Cheney '04!

Bush-Rice '04

Or how bout this?  Bush-Cheney '04, Giuliani-Rice in '08
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2004, 07:55:11 PM »

Frankly, I'm a big fan of Condi Rice.  I love her intellect.  Great legs too.  She'd be great in 08.

However, how about Bush - Giuliani in 04.  That would be a lot stronger than Bush - Chenney in my opinion.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2004, 08:21:30 PM »

edwards was 2nd on the list for VP in 2000 but lost out to joe
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2004, 08:28:56 PM »

edwards was 2nd on the list for VP in 2000 but lost out to joe
I think Gephardt was third....both Edwards and Lieberman were used to try to win Florida.
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2004, 01:23:42 AM »

I thought Kerry was third. I could be wrong though.

Condi Rice is fantastic, in fact she;s my favorite Bush administration person, even better than Rumsfeld. A LOT better than Wolfowitz. It would be awesome if she got promoted to Sec of State, or even (please, Bush, hear my plea!) for Veep. She could definitely be part of an 'o8 ticket.
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2004, 01:27:11 AM »

Isn't she the one who was supposed to catch that mistake in Bush's state of the union address? I think her and Powell have the biggest problems with the WMD issue because Powell presented the case at the UN and now he's saying he has no clue so now his credibility is shot even though he used to be seen as the most moderate (sane) person in the administration. meanwhile, the national security advisor should be at the center of investigation on poor pre-war intelligence, that's supposed to be her job to make sure her boss has good intelligence, now Bush looks bad because of it.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2004, 05:46:48 AM »

This is actually a semi-random thought, but just think about it. Edwards is the "nice" guy who doesn't attack anyone. If he does fairly well and wins some Southern states, bit Kerry wins all or almost all the others, then do they pool their delegates at the convention, repeating the Kennedy-Johnson axis? He actually is the perfect or near-perfect veep for Kerry. He'd do better leading a ticket, but I don't think tat will happen. What do you all think?

you know, I've been thinking the same thing for a while. However, I'd like to see how the candidates do in a few more primaries first before people start trying to make VP deals.
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2004, 08:11:46 AM »

I thought Kerry was third. I could be wrong though.

Condi Rice is fantastic, in fact she;s my favorite Bush administration person, even better than Rumsfeld. A LOT better than Wolfowitz. It would be awesome if she got promoted to Sec of State, or even (please, Bush, hear my plea!) for Veep. She could definitely be part of an 'o8 ticket.

Now, I don't wanna offend anyone, but could a black woman actually win the Republican nomination and then a general election? I would of course hope so, but I wll just have to be sceptical there.
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2004, 08:44:34 AM »

Absolutely.  
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2004, 09:25:34 AM »

Now, I don't wanna offend anyone, but could a black woman actually win the Republican nomination and then a general election? I would of course hope so, but I wll just have to be sceptical there.
Well...I think so.
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2004, 02:25:20 PM »

This was my first thought five months ago when Edwards
announced he would not stand for re-election.  Actually,
about a month later when Bob Graham decided to end his
campaign for Democratic nominee it seemed that's what he
was about.  Then in November when Graham announced,
like Edwards, that he would not seek re-election, maybe
those were the easiest pickups for a Democratic vicory.
Starting with Bush 263 - ?/ecwards 275
or Bush 251 - ?/graham 287.  
The NC market is probably less expensive and Edwards
really is sexier than Graham.  

Either case will lose to Bush.  Suckers walk; money talks.
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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2004, 02:36:32 PM »

Just like  to add that I think the Dems know this.
Placing bids for geopolitic advantage is not only
nasty, but tricky and expensive as well.  If I'm
managing the Kerry/whomever campaign, I say the
best shot is going door to door in less expensive
terrain like WV and NH.   Even that supports the
idea of nominating a woodsy fellow.  A Chaucer's
Everyman, like Bill Clinton's hillbilly intellectual quality,
plays best at both the top and bottom of the ticket.
Too bad the wavefunction collapsed a little differently
in this version of the universe.
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