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« on: February 17, 2004, 02:54:02 PM »

I think, in my wildest dreams, Edwards still has a chance.  Listen.

The 5-step plan:

1.) Finish a strong second in wisconsin today.
2.) Finish second in every primary state on March 2nd, and win Georgia.  Campaign the whole week in georgia and California.
3.) Win the four southern primaries on March 9th: Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas.  This is possible with Clark out of the race.
4.) Now, this is a two person race.  the next of the states are not geographically biased to either side.  
5.) WE CAN DO THIS!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2004, 03:01:03 PM »

If Kerry gets around 50% in the big Super Tuesday states he will pretty much be tne nominee. Edwards only chance was in a Southern momentum, based on SC and OK followed by VA and TN. That didn't materialize and since then his campaign has been dead.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2004, 03:07:17 PM »

Only campaign in the south!  That's it!  Campaign in GA, TX, FL, LA, and MS!
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2004, 03:08:44 PM »


IMHO, Edwards should continue if he can get at least 30% in WI today.

On March 2nd, he needs a win somewhere outside of the South.  My pick would definitely be Ohio, where his focus on jobs should play really well.  If he can pull this off, plus a win in Georgia and strong 2nd in NY & CA, he can sweep March 9th.  

I think this would put the race dead even going into one final big primary the next week in Illinois, which would decide the nominee.

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2004, 03:10:07 PM »

Edwards is losing by 28% in Ohio.
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2004, 03:19:12 PM »


That's realtively good, actually... Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2004, 03:52:38 PM »

Edwards gets 30% today; Dean drops out.  Edwards & Kerry have a one on one debate in which Edwards looks great.  He wins Georgia, Ohio and surprisingly wins California on Super Tuesday.  Then he sweeps March 9 and wins Illinois on the 16th as he goes on to win the nomination.  I can dream, can't I?
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2004, 03:53:24 PM »

Edwards gets 30% today; Dean drops out.  Edwards & Kerry have a one on one debate in which Edwards looks great.  He wins Georgia, Ohio and surprisingly wins California on Super Tuesday.  Then he sweeps March 9 and wins Illinois on the 16th as he goes on to win the nomination.  I can dream, can't I?
Yes you can.

But remeber, even if Dean drops out, Kucnich and sharpton will be at the debates.
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2004, 03:54:50 PM »

Oh yeah, Kucinich endorses Edwards (remember Iowa?) and Sharpton drops out after Iowa.  Now I'm really dreaming.
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2004, 03:57:04 PM »

Oh yeah, Kucinich endorses Edwards (remember Iowa?) and Sharpton drops out after Iowa.  Now I'm really dreaming.
Sharpton has said that he won't drop out.
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2004, 03:59:47 PM »

So has Dean.  Your point?
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2004, 04:01:06 PM »

That they won't drop out.
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2004, 04:01:21 PM »

It's Kerry all the way.  You guys might as well give-up.  Edwards proved to be a regional candidate.  His campaign is dead unless some HUGE scandal rocks the Kerry campaign.  Even if one did, the media wouldn't report it anyway, until Kerry was assured the nomination.  Edwards turned-out ot not have the appeal that even I thought he would have after Iowa.  It happens.  He didn't carry Viginina and Tennessee, so he is finished.  I'm no happier about that than you guys are, believe me.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2004, 04:07:20 PM »

I think, in my wildest dreams, Edwards still has a chance.  Listen.

The 5-step plan:

1.) Finish a strong second in wisconsin today.
2.) Finish second in every primary state on March 2nd, and win Georgia.  Campaign the whole week in georgia and California.
3.) Win the four southern primaries on March 9th: Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas.  This is possible with Clark out of the race.
4.) Now, this is a two person race.  the next of the states are not geographically biased to either side.  
5.) WE CAN DO THIS!!!!

Well, I did my part.  My wife and I voted Edwards today (Oshkosh, 12th district).

Yeah, part of our motivations were to see a brokered convention, but I also find myself agreeing with Edwards on the issues, and I like his positive style - even though I have a hard time believing a word that comes out of his mouth.

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2004, 04:10:05 PM »

Thank you, beef.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2004, 04:10:59 PM »

Good Man Beef!!!! Edwards for President!!!
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2004, 04:20:24 PM »

I'm an Edwards supporter now, and why he has been held back is that not everyone is considering him yet. If he can get the media coverage to be a choice between Kerry or him, I think he has a shot at it again. If the media still talks about Bush v. Kerry, Edwards will suffer.
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2004, 04:35:42 PM »

it is because he hasn't got as much funding as kerry and so he can't field a major campaign.
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2004, 04:41:39 PM »

I'm an Edwards supporter now, and why he has been held back is that not everyone is considering him yet. If he can get the media coverage to be a choice between Kerry or him, I think he has a shot at it again. If the media still talks about Bush v. Kerry, Edwards will suffer.

Even Kerry has said he has no confidence at all that Edwards would even carry his home state.  I think establishment Democrats view him as all hat, no cattle.  They think that he'd end up blowing it on some rookie mistake. The fact that only Kerry and Dean declined public financing hurt him, too.
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2004, 05:24:35 PM »

I'm an Edwards supporter now, and why he has been held back is that not everyone is considering him yet. If he can get the media coverage to be a choice between Kerry or him, I think he has a shot at it again. If the media still talks about Bush v. Kerry, Edwards will suffer.

On the contrary, Edwards' main plus is that because no one is attacking him, he is free to run a positive-message, no-attack-ad campaign.  The reason I voted for him is precisely because of that.  If the Kerry campaign starts to perceive Edwards as a threat, they will start slinging the mud his way.  Then his choice will be to sling back, and lose his upside, or refuse to repay evil with evil, in which case he will be buried.

Right now his best chance is to keep the focus on Kerry v. Bush, and quietly pick up support with is positive message as a candidate for the Little Guy.
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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2004, 05:26:43 PM »

He is the best speaker in the lot and the most likable candidate in my opinion.
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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2004, 06:06:28 PM »

It's Kerry all the way.  You guys might as well give-up.  Edwards proved to be a regional candidate.  His campaign is dead unless some HUGE scandal rocks the Kerry campaign.  Even if one did, the media wouldn't report it anyway, until Kerry was assured the nomination.  Edwards turned-out ot not have the appeal that even I thought he would have after Iowa.  It happens.  He didn't carry Viginina and Tennessee, so he is finished.  I'm no happier about that than you guys are, believe me.

No, I don't think he's a regional canidate at all, he just had to fight a VERY uphill battle.

1. Kerry has been a Senator for many years, and is more well known.  

2. He got all the media attention after his Iowa/NH wins, and the frontrunner status.  

Do you know how many people say "I'd vote Edwards, but I want Bush out, so I'm voting Kerry"?  That flawed logic.  Edwards seems like a much stronger canidate.  That just tells me that Kerry is alot of hype and little substance.  I wouldn't vote for Bush over Kerry, but I'd be reluctant to push the button next to Kerry's name.  
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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2004, 06:31:16 PM »

Yes people voted for Kerry without knowing why, starting in NH. Thescouting voters here in New Hampshire would have voted for Edwards, but felt obliged to vote Clark. Clark did a lot of harm to Edwards.
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2004, 06:40:12 PM »

I think Edwards is done as a Presidential candidate this year. In '08 or in 2012 he might have a good chance
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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2004, 06:51:16 PM »

He's going to do well in Wisconsin. The question is can that qualify attention, and does he need contributions now to survive Super Tuesday.
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