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« on: September 16, 2004, 05:06:25 AM »
« edited: September 16, 2004, 05:13:53 AM by afleitch »

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB109526872487418642,00.html?mod=todays%5Ffree%5Ffeature

Likely Voters
Kerry 48
Bush 47
Nader 2

51% say 'Bush does not deserve to be elected'

Numbers to chew over.

Sorry if this has been reported before

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2004, 08:49:35 AM »
« Edited: September 16, 2004, 01:42:16 PM by The Vorlon »

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB109526872487418642,00.html?mod=todays%5Ffree%5Ffeature

Likely Voters
Kerry 48
Bush 47
Nader 2

51% say 'Bush does not deserve to be elected'

Numbers to chew over.

Sorry if this has been reported before



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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2004, 09:37:45 AM »

I might be rediculously naive, but  Kerry +1 and tied in 2 straight LV national polls could mean something.

But if Bush is within 6 of Kerry in NY and up 4 in NJ...how does Kerry get a lead in the PV?

One, or both, of these national or state polls is wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2004, 09:38:48 AM »

See, this is what I'd LIKE to have happen.

Bush 47%
Kerry 48%
Nader 5%

Bush wins electoral college => Kerry breaks down Al Gore style
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2004, 10:02:31 AM »

See, this is what I'd LIKE to have happen.

Bush 47%
Kerry 48%
Nader 5%

Bush wins electoral college => Kerry breaks down Al Gore style

The last thing I want to see is the rightful winner lose again, whether it be Bush or Kerry.

I'd (almost) rather have Kerry lose than have win win the EV and lose the PV.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2004, 10:07:18 AM »

The PV does not make you the rightful winner.

In the situation I posted, I agree that Kerry would be the rightful winner, but only because those Nader votes mean Bush probably carried a lot of states without a majority.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2004, 10:11:03 AM »

Something's got to give. Either it's close to tied again and these national polls are right or they're not catching something the state polls are catching. If the former is right then all these state polls are wrong. I guess take your pick.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2004, 11:26:40 AM »
« Edited: September 16, 2004, 01:42:55 PM by The Vorlon »


I might be rediculously naive, but  Kerry +1 and tied in 2 straight LV national polls could mean something.


Actually... not quite correct..

TIPP - Sept 7-12th had it tied..

But ICR - SEpt 8-12 had Bush +8

Same time period, direct contradiction of one another.

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2004, 12:26:06 PM »

It's a bit reassuring for us Democrats.

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2004, 07:51:36 PM »

Was Harris an internet poll or was it a telephone poll.  Seems there is some question about this.
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2004, 08:02:14 PM »

MoE + minor Harris pull to the Dems= not really that far out there. It's obviously Kerry-friendly, but it's hardly earth-shattering news.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2004, 08:21:39 PM »

I might be rediculously naive, but  Kerry +1 and tied in 2 straight LV national polls could mean something.

But if Bush is within 6 of Kerry in NY and up 4 in NJ...how does Kerry get a lead in the PV?

One, or both, of these national or state polls is wrong.


It is not the same poll and not the same methodology.
Apples and oranges.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2004, 09:30:52 PM »

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB109526872487418642,00.html?mod=todays%5Ffree%5Ffeature

Likely Voters
Kerry 48
Bush 47
Nader 2

51% say 'Bush does not deserve to be elected'

Numbers to chew over.

Sorry if this has been reported before




So it's not yet over.
There are still some chances that we will be successful in getting rid of Bush.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2004, 12:17:57 AM »

I might be rediculously naive, but  Kerry +1 and tied in 2 straight LV national polls could mean something.

But if Bush is within 6 of Kerry in NY and up 4 in NJ...how does Kerry get a lead in the PV?

One, or both, of these national or state polls is wrong.

Cause Bush is not within 6 in NY and NOT up 4 in Jersey.  Bush is not going to be within 20 in NY, and not within 10 in Jersey by the time this is all over.  
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2004, 01:39:11 AM »

I might be rediculously naive, but  Kerry +1 and tied in 2 straight LV national polls could mean something.

But if Bush is within 6 of Kerry in NY and up 4 in NJ...how does Kerry get a lead in the PV?

One, or both, of these national or state polls is wrong.

Because he has the mainstream press trying to keep him afloat with monkey-man Rather. Your suspicions are true, Bush is pulling ahead in the country...Bigtime!
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2004, 01:43:15 AM »

You CANNOT look at National Polls to determine who is ahead. You have to look at the State by State polls. Thats where the weather vane is!

FYI, the weather vane is pointing in Bush's direction in almost every battleground in the USA. Bush has the lead in the state polls...anyone care to comment on how he has pulled ahead in FL...out of the margin of error?
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