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hcallega
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Political Matrix
E: -1.10, S: -3.90

« on: July 27, 2010, 09:13:00 PM »

1867: Conservative
1872: Conservative
1874: Conservative
1878: Conservative
1882: Conservative
1887: Conservative
1891: Liberal
1896: Liberal
1900: Liberal
1904: Liberal
1908: Liberal
1911: Liberal
1917: Laurier Liberal
1921: Liberal
1925: Liberal
1926: Liberal
1930: Conservative
1935: Liberal[/color
1940: Liberal
1945: Liberal
1949: Liberal
1953: Liberal
1956: Liberal
1958: Progressive Conservative
1962: Progressive Conservative
1963: Progressive Conservative
1965: Progressive Conservative
1968: Liberal
1972: Liberal, but would have voted for Roch LaSalle if I was in his riding
1975: Liberal
1979: Liberal
1980: Liberal
1984: Progressive Conservative
1988: Progressive Conservative
1993: Bloc Quebecois
1997: Bloc Quebecois
2000: Liberal
2004: Bloc Quebecois
2006: Bloc Quebecois
2008: Bloc Quebecois

Explanation
1867-1887: Supported the pro-Quebec Conservatives over the anti-clerical Liberals
1891-1917: Supported the pro-Quebec Liberals over the anti-French/anti-Catholic Conservatives
1917: Supported Laurier as I likely would have opposed Canadian entry into World War One
1921-1926: See 1891-1917
1930: Due to Great Depression would have supported Conservatives
1935-1956: Turned back to Liberals who embraced New Deal-esque policies and guided Canada through World War Two. Would have supported Uncle Louis in the post-war years.
1958-1965: Supported the "one-nation" conservatism of Diefenbaker over the social democracy of Pearson
1968-1980: Supported Trudeau, despite reservations over his belief in Canadian nationalism
1984-1988: Supported Mulroney in the years of prosperity and pro-Quebec policies
1993-1997, 2004-Present: Supported the pro-Quebec Bloc
2000: Chretien was doing such a darn good job, might as well!

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hcallega
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Political Matrix
E: -1.10, S: -3.90

« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2010, 08:58:45 AM »


You'd have supported RB Bennett's Hoover-esque Nazi-loving Tories?

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Roch LaSalle was the MP for my family's birthplace. He was a good constituency MP (he delivered passports door-to-door to those who had asked for one), had a massive personal vote.

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The Tories were not "pro-Quebec" (as ridiculous of a phrase that is) but rather supported the far-right clerical elite which controlled Quebec as a theocratic dictatorship until 1960. Until the Tories became the party of WASPs nationwide.

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Supporting conscription is not 'anti-French', ftr.

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I don't think I've ever seen a contemporary Bloc supporter who likes Trudeau.

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And the corruption and stupid constitutional debates; and cut it out with the "pro-Quebec" crap.


Point #1: Looking at it at the time I would have yes. The Liberals had failed to keep the nation out of depression, so it was quite likely that I would have supported the Conservatives simply because of my own economic concerns.
Point #3: I will always support the reactionaries over the anti-clerical party. As a devout Catholic any attack on my faith is an attack on me personally.
Point #4: By that point the Liberals had shut up about being anti-clerical under Laurier, who I would support initially in large part because he was a Francophone. And yes, forcing men to fight for a war that was wrong and seen by most in Quebec at the time as a British war may not be anti-French, but it's still wrong.
Point #5: I'll give you that one actually lol
Point #6: Not a huge fan of Mulroney today, but at the time I believe he was the best option for Quebec federalism or separatism.

And yes, I do base my votes in large part on Quebec's federalism/nationalism/independence even. I don't think of Canada as one nation so much as Quebec and everyone else. Therefore I would support the party that best supported the "nation" of Quebec.
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hcallega
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Political Matrix
E: -1.10, S: -3.90

« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2010, 02:16:38 PM »

Point #1: Looking at it at the time I would have yes. The Liberals had failed to keep the nation out of depression, so it was quite likely that I would have supported the Conservatives simply because of my own economic concerns.

Did any party/leader in the world (excluding isolated places) keep their country out of the 1929 depression? There sure isn't much of those in the Americas.

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So you support theocracy?

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Mulroney was a scumbag opportunist. He didn't care about Quebec nationalism, he allied to them purely for political gain.


I agree that most leaders failed to keep their nations out of the depression. And that is exactly why I would vote for someone else. As far as theocracy goes, I would indeed support one over an anti-clerical state, such as the liberals at the time supported and the French Republic was. I would not consider the United States Anti-Clerical. And yeah, Mulroney was a jerk, but the fact that he supported Quebec nationalism even for political gain is a positive.
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hcallega
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Political Matrix
E: -1.10, S: -3.90

« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 12:04:10 PM »

2011: Bloc Quebecois
2008: Bloc Quebecois
2006: Bloc Quebecois
2004: Bloc Quebecois
2000: Bloc Quebecois
1997: Bloc Quebecois
1993: Bloc Quebecois

1988: Progressive Conservative
1984: Progressive Conservative

1980: Liberal
1979: Liberal

1974: Progressive Conservative
1972: Progressive Conservative
1968: Progressive Conservative

1965: Liberal
1963: Liberal
1962: Liberal
1958: Liberal
1957: Liberal
1953: Liberal
1949: Liberal
1945: Liberal
1940: Liberal
1935: Liberal
1930: Liberal
1926: Liberal
1925: Liberal
1921: Liberal
1917: Liberal
1911: Liberal
1908: Liberal
1904: Liberal
1900: Liberal
1896: Liberal
1891: Liberal
1887: Liberal
1882: Liberal
1878: Liberal
1874: Liberal
1872: Liberal
1867: Liberal
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