U, V, or W?

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

That's still one more thread that more or less asks "what do you think will happen?".

I find interesting to ask that way because I find it a simple and good synthesis of the debates.

So, what do you think the economy will be?

A "U", a "V" or a "W"?

Or you think something that can't fit in these propositions, explain...

[opebo]

[Mint]

L depression.

[Хahar 🤔]

Honestly, I can't say I care much about the economy.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Honestly, I can't say I care much about the economy.

I hope your parents lose their jobs and you have to go back to India or Pakistan or whatever Jew country you came from.

[/ignorant reactionary]

Actually... I think it'll be a U economy.  I think the big bank bailouts have changed it from a V to a U.

[War on Want]

Somewhere in between a V and a U, but I lean towards a U recovery.

[opebo]

Honestly, I can't say I care much about the economy.

Hah, it doesn't effect me either.

Anyway the reason I say V is all the poo-pooers of recovery happen to be off-beat right-wing ideologues, so I'm skeptical.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I hope its a U shape recovery, my fear is though that it will look like that desert picture in your sig.

[Alexander Hamilton]

W at best.

[Lief 🗽]

O

[TeePee4Prez]

NOTA.  The Verizon "V" if that makes sense. 

[Richard]

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[Person Man]

NOTA.  The Verizon "V" if that makes sense. 

Well, at least things will be secure, if not dull for a while.

[TeePee4Prez]

NOTA.  The Verizon "V" if that makes sense. 

Well, at least things will be secure, if not dull for a while.

I'm thinking an incline upwards more like a ramp with a low grade.  A lot of it will be the housing market, green/alternative energy, and how Baby Boomers will hand the reigns to the next generation.  Problem is the latter seems reluctant and there could be a lot of lump sum retirements keeping money out of the market.  Like hurricanes, you don't know what will go where.  I'm finding "economic booms" are really just glorified money shifts.

[opebo]

O

Haha, so true.  The endless rat race of capitalism.

[phk]

W.

[Person Man]

NOTA.  The Verizon "V" if that makes sense. 

Well, at least things will be secure, if not dull for a while.

I'm thinking an incline upwards more like a ramp with a low grade.  A lot of it will be the housing market, green/alternative energy, and how Baby Boomers will hand the reigns to the next generation.  Problem is the latter seems reluctant and there could be a lot of lump sum retirements keeping money out of the market.  Like hurricanes, you don't know what will go where.  I'm finding "economic booms" are really just glorified money shifts.

Hmmm...it also seems like were trying to run our economy on commodities since 2001. I mean, Housing, Energy, Food? Is this any way of achieving strong, long-term growth? I am sure that everybody needs these things, but none of these things actually grow the American way of living.

[phk]

NOTA.  The Verizon "V" if that makes sense. 

Well, at least things will be secure, if not dull for a while.

I'm thinking an incline upwards more like a ramp with a low grade.  A lot of it will be the housing market, green/alternative energy, and how Baby Boomers will hand the reigns to the next generation.  Problem is the latter seems reluctant and there could be a lot of lump sum retirements keeping money out of the market.  Like hurricanes, you don't know what will go where.  I'm finding "economic booms" are really just glorified money shifts.

Hmmm...it also seems like were trying to run our economy on commodities since 2001. I mean, Housing, Energy, Food? Is this any way of achieving strong, long-term growth? I am sure that everybody needs these things, but none of these things actually grow the American way of living.

True right here. As poorer countries move up the "value-added" ladder, so must the rich countries.

[k-onmmunist]

V

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

V

[CARLHAYDEN]

W.

[opebo]

For you W-ers, why not a shape more like this:  \/\ ___

I mean why would it bump up after the second down-leg?

[CARLHAYDEN]

For you W-ers, why not a shape more like this:  \/\ ___

I mean why would it bump up after the second down-leg?

Once the fundamental problems in the American economy have been resolved, then the basic underlying strengths will apply and growth will occur.

The problem is that the programs the government has implemented have retarded respolution of the problems.

A pretty good analogy is that we have severe gangrene in a foot, and the government tells us not to deal with that problem, but rather take massive doses of morphine so that we won't feel the pain.

[Person Man]

The verizon V it is!


http://www.gallup.com/poll/151553/Gallup-Daily-Job-Creation-Index.aspx

[muon2]

The verizon V it is!


http://www.gallup.com/poll/151553/Gallup-Daily-Job-Creation-Index.aspx

Unfortunately for the public that's not the V they were looking for. It doesn't look like the classic Vs of the 70's, the lopsided W of the 80's, or the U shapes in the last two recessions.



This plot overlays the data from the recessions, and the lack of recovery to prerecession levels after a much longer period is evident in the current cycle.