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« on: August 26, 2013, 01:04:46 AM »

Require schools to test students each year.
Allow schools to display God Bless America.
Under God in Pledge of Allegiance.
Allow for voluntary school prayer, but not teacher led.
Make standards clear to the entire nation.
Teachers must be recertified every four years.
Lower student to teacher ratio by building more charter schools.
Allow parents to choose any school in their county with vouchers even private schools.
More funding for Black and Hispanic scholarships and grants.
Keep schools repaired and renovated.
Keep decisions in the hands of parents and teachers and not bureaucrats.
Parents and teachers know how their kids are doing better than politicians in Washington D.C.
Use tax money for entrepreneurial private schools.
Allow for school vouchers in Washington D.C.
Encourage local governments to fund after school programs along with federal and state.
Intelligent design belongs in religion class, not science.
Provide school breakfasts for low income students.
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2013, 01:15:40 AM »

Require schools to test students each year.
No; routine standardized testing does not work, but there should be a test for each student to take during their high school career for the purposes of measuring student achievement and applying to colleges.

Allow schools to display God Bless America.
Yes.

Under God in Pledge of Allegiance.
Yes.

Allow for voluntary school prayer, but not teacher led.
Yes.

Make standards clear to the entire nation.
Yes.

Teachers must be recertified every four years.
Lean no.

Lower student to teacher ratio by building more charter schools.
Yes.

Allow parents to choose any school in their county with vouchers even private schools.
Until a better system is adopted, sure.

More funding for Black and Hispanic scholarships and grants.
Yes.

Keep schools repaired and renovated.
Yes.

Keep decisions in the hands of parents and teachers and not bureaucrats.
Sure.

Parents and teachers know how their kids are doing better than politicians in Washington D.C.
Yeah.

Use tax money for entrepreneurial private schools.
Yeah.

Allow for school vouchers in Washington D.C.
Until a better system is adopted, sure.

Encourage local governments to fund after school programs along with federal and state.
Yes.

Intelligent design belongs in religion class, not science.
Yes.

Provide school breakfasts for low income students.
Absolutely.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 06:41:33 AM »

Require schools to test students each year. No. Get rid of most forms of testing, limit the amount of homework (or ban it outright) that can be given, and in general stop treating students like products.
Allow schools to display God Bless America. Not sure what this means, but lean no.
Under God in Pledge of Allegiance. Stop reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.
Allow for voluntary school prayer, but not teacher led. Yes.
Make standards clear to the entire nation. Assuming that they are written by teachers, not bureaucrats, yes.
Teachers must be recertified every four years. No, this is an awful idea. Instead adopt national certification so that teachers can easily move from state to state with as few as possible problems.
Lower student to teacher ratio by building more charter schools. No, ban charter schools.
Allow parents to choose any school in their county with vouchers even private schools. No, ban vouchers and private schooling.
More funding for Black and Hispanic scholarships and grants. No. Allow every child to go to college or vocational school free of charge.
Keep schools repaired and renovated. Duh.
Keep decisions in the hands of parents and teachers and not bureaucrats. Give teachers the most leeway, but as a general rule, yes.
Parents and teachers know how their kids are doing better than politicians in Washington D.C. Teachers certainly do, not so sure about parents, but that can be changed if you change the climate of education itself and encourage more parents to get involved.
Use tax money for entrepreneurial private schools. No, ban private schools.
Allow for school vouchers in Washington D.C. No, ban voucher programs, homeschooling, private schools, and charter schools.
Encourage local governments to fund after school programs along with federal and state. Local governments will never do this, nor will state governments, so throw federal funding behind it.
Intelligent design belongs in religion class, not science. Word.
Provide school breakfasts for low income students.  Provide school breakfast to all students.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2013, 10:35:16 AM »

Require schools to test students each year. No. Get rid of most forms of testing, limit the amount of homework (or ban it outright) that can be given, and in general stop treating students like products.
Allow schools to display God Bless America. Not sure what this means, but lean no.
Under God in Pledge of Allegiance. Stop reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.
Allow for voluntary school prayer, but not teacher led. Yes.
Make standards clear to the entire nation. Assuming that they are written by teachers, not bureaucrats, yes.
Teachers must be recertified every four years. No, this is an awful idea. Instead adopt national certification so that teachers can easily move from state to state with as few as possible problems.
Lower student to teacher ratio by building more charter schools. No, ban charter schools.
Allow parents to choose any school in their county with vouchers even private schools. No, ban vouchers and private schooling.
More funding for Black and Hispanic scholarships and grants. No. Allow every child to go to college or vocational school free of charge.
Keep schools repaired and renovated. Duh.
Keep decisions in the hands of parents and teachers and not bureaucrats. Give teachers the most leeway, but as a general rule, yes.
Parents and teachers know how their kids are doing better than politicians in Washington D.C. Teachers certainly do, not so sure about parents, but that can be changed if you change the climate of education itself and encourage more parents to get involved.
Use tax money for entrepreneurial private schools. No, ban private schools.
Allow for school vouchers in Washington D.C. No, ban voucher programs, homeschooling, private schools, and charter schools.
Encourage local governments to fund after school programs along with federal and state. Local governments will never do this, nor will state governments, so throw federal funding behind it.
Intelligent design belongs in religion class, not science. Word.
Provide school breakfasts for low income students.  Provide school breakfast to all students.

LOL are you serious?
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 02:07:53 PM »

Require schools to test students each year.
Depends on the subject; math, sure. English, probably not.

Allow schools to display God Bless America.
Sure

Under God in Pledge of Allegiance.
Don't approve of the Pledge of Allegiance

Allow for voluntary school prayer, but not teacher led.
Sure

Make standards clear to the entire nation.
Sure

Teachers must be recertified every four years.
Don't care

Lower student to teacher ratio by building more charter schools.
Hell yes, awesome idea

Allow parents to choose any school in their county with vouchers even private schools.
Centrepiece of my education views. State run schools run perilously close to being state run propaganda

More funding for Black and Hispanic scholarships and grants.
Just say no to racial qualifications

Keep schools repaired and renovated.
Sure

Keep decisions in the hands of parents and teachers and not bureaucrats.
Absolutely, the parent's role should be almost untouchable

Parents and teachers know how their kids are doing better than politicians in Washington D.C.
I agree, but how is this a policy plank?

Use tax money for entrepreneurial private schools.
Heck yeah

Allow for school vouchers in Washington D.C.
Absolutely

Encourage local governments to fund after school programs along with federal and state.
Don't really care

Intelligent design belongs in religion class, not science.
I'm skeptical of the average student's abilities in things they'll use in their day to day life like personal finance, mental math etc. I'd look at putting off things like evolution to courses in high school and spending more time on the "basics"

Provide school breakfasts for low income students.
I don't see why this can't be done with food stamps.
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2013, 03:14:25 PM »

Require schools to test students each year. No. Get rid of most forms of testing, limit the amount of homework (or ban it outright) that can be given, and in general stop treating students like products.
Allow schools to display God Bless America. Not sure what this means, but lean no.
Under God in Pledge of Allegiance. Stop reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.
Allow for voluntary school prayer, but not teacher led. Yes.
Make standards clear to the entire nation. Assuming that they are written by teachers, not bureaucrats, yes.
Teachers must be recertified every four years. No, this is an awful idea. Instead adopt national certification so that teachers can easily move from state to state with as few as possible problems.
Lower student to teacher ratio by building more charter schools. No, ban charter schools.
Allow parents to choose any school in their county with vouchers even private schools. No, ban vouchers and private schooling.
More funding for Black and Hispanic scholarships and grants. No. Allow every child to go to college or vocational school free of charge.
Keep schools repaired and renovated. Duh.
Keep decisions in the hands of parents and teachers and not bureaucrats. Give teachers the most leeway, but as a general rule, yes.
Parents and teachers know how their kids are doing better than politicians in Washington D.C. Teachers certainly do, not so sure about parents, but that can be changed if you change the climate of education itself and encourage more parents to get involved.
Use tax money for entrepreneurial private schools. No, ban private schools.
Allow for school vouchers in Washington D.C. No, ban voucher programs, homeschooling, private schools, and charter schools.
Encourage local governments to fund after school programs along with federal and state. Local governments will never do this, nor will state governments, so throw federal funding behind it.
Intelligent design belongs in religion class, not science. Word.
Provide school breakfasts for low income students.  Provide school breakfast to all students.

LOL are you serious?

Yup.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2013, 03:22:34 PM »

Require schools to test students each year.
NO, I have been though this sad thing they call testing, it is demeaning and almost all schools are brought down with testing all students.

Allow schools to display God Bless America.
Sure

Under God in Pledge of Allegiance.
yes

Allow for voluntary school prayer, but not teacher led.
yes

Make standards clear to the entire nation.
no, let states do it

Teachers must be recertified every four years.
some yes, others no, have a way of judging if this is needed.

Lower student to teacher ratio by building more charter schools.
Would love it, but will take a lot of money

Allow parents to choose any school in their county with vouchers even private schools.
Yeah

More funding for Black and Hispanic scholarships and grants.
Just say no to racial qualifications

Keep schools repaired and renovated.
yes

Keep decisions in the hands of parents and teachers and not bureaucrats.
of course yes

Parents and teachers know how their kids are doing better than politicians in Washington D.C.
I agree

Use tax money for entrepreneurial private schools.
yes, and start to transition all schools to only using tech

Allow for school vouchers in Washington D.C.
Absolutely

Encourage local governments to fund after school programs along with federal and state.
do it

Intelligent design belongs in religion class, not science.
Yes

Provide school breakfasts for low income students.
Yes, we should increase spending for this
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2013, 04:14:51 PM »

Require schools to test students each year.
Yes, definitely.

Allow schools to display God Bless America.
Yes.

Under God in Pledge of Allegiance.
No.

Allow for voluntary school prayer, but not teacher led.
So basically the present policy? Yeah, sure.

Make standards clear to the entire nation.
Yes.

Teachers must be recertified every four years.
More frequently -- say every three.

Lower student to teacher ratio by building more charter schools.
Lean no.

Allow parents to choose any school in their county with vouchers even private schools.
No.

More funding for Black and Hispanic scholarships and grants.
Gotta say no to this one until you specify where the funding is coming from. And it shouldn't be specifically for racial minorities either.

Keep schools repaired and renovated.
Yeah, but that's a local government thing.

Keep decisions in the hands of parents and teachers and not bureaucrats.
No. Make the bureaucrats accountable, certainly, but I don't think parents who don't necessarily have any specialty in a subject should be allowed to make decisions about how it should be taught.

Parents and teachers know how their kids are doing better than politicians in Washington D.C.
Depends which parents, which teachers, and which politicians.

Use tax money for entrepreneurial private schools.
No.

Allow for school vouchers in Washington D.C.
No.

Encourage local governments to fund after school programs along with federal and state.
Depends on what you mean by 'encourage', but sure.

Intelligent design belongs in religion class, not science.
There should be no religion class and no intelligent design in biology/science.

Provide school breakfasts for low income students.
Certainly if this can be afforded, but a good-quality education should be prioritized over this; a school district that doesn't pay competent teachers well and is in debt can't really afford to do this.
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2013, 04:24:57 PM »

Require schools to test students each year.
Standardized tests? One is fine, but we take about 3 or 4 a year.

Allow schools to display God Bless America.
Sure.

Under God in Pledge of Allegiance.
By choice.

Allow for voluntary school prayer, but not teacher led.
In a special, designated area.

Make standards clear to the entire nation.
Should vary by either district or county.

Teachers must be recertified every four years.
No.

Lower student to teacher ratio by building more charter schools.
A noble idea if only it weren't far-fetched.

Allow parents to choose any school in their county with vouchers even private schools.
No.

More funding for Black and Hispanic scholarships and grants.
Yes, but don't give anyone special privilege based on race.

Keep schools repaired and renovated.
Is there any answer other than yes?

Keep decisions in the hands of parents and teachers and not bureaucrats.
Absolutely.

Parents and teachers know how their kids are doing better than politicians in Washington D.C.
Of course.

Use tax money for entrepreneurial private schools.
No.

Allow for school vouchers in Washington D.C.
No.

Encourage local governments to fund after school programs along with federal and state.
Yes.

Intelligent design belongs in religion class, not science.
Indeed.

Provide school breakfasts for low income students.
Provide breakfast for anyone who wants it.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2013, 05:02:07 PM »

Require schools to test students each year.
Standardized tests? One is fine, but we take about 3 or 4 a year.

Allow schools to display God Bless America.
Sure.

Under God in Pledge of Allegiance.
By choice.

Allow for voluntary school prayer, but not teacher led.
In a special, designated area.

Make standards clear to the entire nation.
Should vary by either district or county.

Teachers must be recertified every four years.
No.

Lower student to teacher ratio by building more charter schools.
A noble idea if only it weren't far-fetched.

Allow parents to choose any school in their county with vouchers even private schools.
No.

More funding for Black and Hispanic scholarships and grants.
Yes, but don't give anyone special privilege based on race.

Keep schools repaired and renovated.
Is there any answer other than yes?

Keep decisions in the hands of parents and teachers and not bureaucrats.
Absolutely.

Parents and teachers know how their kids are doing better than politicians in Washington D.C.
Of course.

Use tax money for entrepreneurial private schools.
No.

Allow for school vouchers in Washington D.C.
No.

Encourage local governments to fund after school programs along with federal and state.
Yes.

Intelligent design belongs in religion class, not science.
Indeed.

Provide school breakfasts for low income students.
Provide breakfast for anyone who wants it.

As for school breakfasts, the reason we have them is for low income students, but if others want to eat at school they're welcome to. If not for low income students though there probably wouldn't be a program for it. What are your thoughts on entrepreneurial schools though? We already do something similar with Vo-Tech. I agree there's a lot of standardized tests. One is probably federal and one is probably state. There might be local ones too in your state. As for making standards clear, I'm not saying one size fits all by any means. I'm saying at all levels the standards and expectations must be known and addressed at the beginning of each school year. It may have sounded like I was advocating a one size fits all method. When it comes to teachers, they shouldn't have life long careers if they aren't teaching their students well.
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