Will the LDP ever gain power again in Japan?
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« on: August 30, 2009, 05:41:12 PM »
I highly doubt it.
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2009, 05:41:43 PM »
Umm. Yes. (normal)
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 05:43:54 PM »

Just like Democrazia Cristiana did in Italy, right?
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 05:45:13 PM »

LOL ANY PARTY THAT GETS KICKED OUT OF POWER WILL NEVER TAKE POWER AGAIN.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 06:04:05 PM »
Quote from: Classic Liberal on August 30, 2009, 05:45:13 PM

LOL ANY PARTY THAT GETS KICKED OUT OF POWER WILL NEVER TAKE POWER AGAIN.

Considering than the party is formed by random persons without coherant ideology just to have the power, yes.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 06:04:41 PM »
Quote from: Senator MaxQue on August 30, 2009, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: Classic Liberal on August 30, 2009, 05:45:13 PM

LOL ANY PARTY THAT GETS KICKED OUT OF POWER WILL NEVER TAKE POWER AGAIN.

Considering than the party is formed by random persons without coherant ideology just to have the power, yes.

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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 07:50:46 PM »
Adam Carr's little description of the LDP has it about right:

It is officially a conservative party, but in fact is a collection of factions representing various business interests, and largely concerned with the accumulation and distribution of money to special interest groups.

There's very little point of such a party in opposition - which is why the question is legitimate. Though it must be noted that the PRI seems to be in rude health right now.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2009, 08:46:03 PM »
Probably not, but I wouldn't be surprised if a party named Jiyu-Minshuto won an election in the future. It would just be an unrecognizably changed version of the current LDP. What's pending right now is civil war in the party between the conservatives and the reformists. Whichever side loses will leave the party and form a new one.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 04:01:32 AM »
It has already gained power again, through the DPJ...

Come on, "change"... with Ichiro Ozawa...

As for the LDP, I think that, yes, he will come back. Because the DPJ will fail before the LDP completely explodes !!
The LDP will come back and, then, spread itself in other parties, old and new.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 04:26:33 AM »
The cynical view would be that there will be no LDP because the DPJ will be what the LDP was in the past.
This is certainly quite possible, but obviously not what I hope happens.
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2009, 12:48:49 PM »
Hard to say. Not anytime soon I guess.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2009, 02:03:16 PM »
Certainly not. I've been predicting this for a while.

Quote from: Matko Destanov on August 31, 2009, 04:26:33 AM
The cynical view would be that there will be no LDP because the DPJ will be what the LDP was in the past.

This is what I think will happen. The nearest example I can think of in the Western world is Alberta.
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2009, 02:04:09 PM »
How about Mexico and the PRI?
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2009, 02:34:04 PM »

The PRI are quite a different thing in many ways to the LDP though. There's no revolutionary history for a start and there can be no real denying of what the LDP actually is, while the PRI could always the play the catch-all role (and had a long left-wing tradition within it). Actually the LDP reminds me most of (not surprisingly for me) is Fianna Fail (though some of what I said about the PRI applies to FF too).

The question is now whether the LDP will reform itself or not. The thing is, there is certainly a market of genuinely conservative party in Japan with mass support. Alot actually might depend on what position the new government takes (ideologically).
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