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« Reply #600 on: March 19, 2010, 03:40:36 PM »

You're welcome to make your own maps, you know. Not everybody has time to make maps based on complex mathematical calculations and complex colour schemes. Plus, maps of abstention, which I've done in the past, don't tell us anything new. It's basically the same people who don't vote and so forth. No pattern is surprising, enlightening or even new.

Furthermore, a map calculated on inscrits and not exprimes, takes much longer and tells us exactly the same on a different scale of numbers. And it's more confusing.

.k .k. I wasn't giving orders, it's just that to have a good photos of politics in population that is to be done, especially when the majority of the population doesn't vote. For example, it would also gives some relativity to votes to the extremes, like it's not 20% of an area which is FN, but 20% of the 40% of voters, which is different.

I already posted this link in this thread, but content yourself here with abstention stats: http://www.geoclip.fr/fr/
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« Reply #601 on: March 20, 2010, 01:08:29 AM »


How is it bad? Paul Vergès is a corrupt, paternalistic cripple criminal.

Oh well... had no idea of that. I was just disappointed to see the right taking two overseas regions from the left. Obviously, if the left-wing candidate is as you described him, then I've no reason to be saddened by the result of this poll (obviously all depends to the UMP candidate).


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You're welcome to make your own maps, you know. Not everybody has time to make maps based on complex mathematical calculations and complex colour schemes. Plus, maps of abstention, which I've done in the past, don't tell us anything new. It's basically the same people who don't vote and so forth. No pattern is surprising, enlightening or even new. It's not like it's surprising that working-class voters, unemployed voters, immigrants, low-income voters in poor suburbs and young voters are more likely to abstain. There's nothing new in that. Neither is the fact, really, that more right-wing voters abstained in 2010 than left-wing voters.

Furthermore, a map calculated on inscrits and not exprimes, takes much longer and tells us exactly the same on a different scale of numbers. And it's more confusing.
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I think you misunderstood what benwah meant. He was just saying that he would like to see what would give us a map in percentage of registered voters instead of expressed votes. Well, of course it's more complicated to do, but admit it's more representative. For example, should a region where the PS got 40% of votes with a 60% abstention really be in a darker shade than a region where it got 35% with a 30% abstention ?
Obviously you aren't forced to do them, and it takes obviously a bit more time. Wink Maybe I could do them for second round.
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« Reply #602 on: March 20, 2010, 08:06:05 AM »
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I understood that. Read what I wrote:

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And nobody calculates stuff based on inscrits anymore.

Now, a map of turnout would be easier to do and tell the same story in a simpler way.
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« Reply #603 on: March 20, 2010, 08:47:06 AM »

I understood that. Read what I wrote:

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And nobody calculates stuff based on inscrits anymore.

Now, a map of turnout would be easier to do and tell the same story in a simpler way.

But you have to admit that it makes some sense, as I wanted to point out with my example.
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« Reply #604 on: March 20, 2010, 08:53:05 AM »

I understood that. Read what I wrote:

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And nobody calculates stuff based on inscrits anymore.

Now, a map of turnout would be easier to do and tell the same story in a simpler way.

But you have to admit that it makes some sense, as I wanted to point out with my example.

Yes, it does. But a simple map of turnout would be much easier and tell the same story.
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« Reply #605 on: March 20, 2010, 10:08:44 AM »

I understood that. Read what I wrote:

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And nobody calculates stuff based on inscrits anymore.

Now, a map of turnout would be easier to do and tell the same story in a simpler way.

But you have to admit that it makes some sense, as I wanted to point out with my example.

Yes, it does. But a simple map of turnout would be much easier and tell the same story.

Well, a map of PS's percentages among registered voters has the advantage of showing both the effect of the abstention and the PS vote. Wink
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« Reply #606 on: March 20, 2010, 02:05:24 PM »

Where can I find the results from individual cities?
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« Reply #607 on: March 20, 2010, 02:22:52 PM »

Where can I find the results from individual cities?

http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/

Don't click on the actual map, click on the region or the departmental numbers below the map.

http://www.geoclip.fr/danseuse/carto.php?lang=fr

Interactive map of all French communes and cantons. Results are under the 'societe' tab, in 'regionales 2010 - 1er tour', and then choose an 'indicator' such as leading party, % vote for a specific party.

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« Reply #608 on: March 20, 2010, 03:03:34 PM »

Where can I find the results from individual cities?

http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/

Don't click on the actual map, click on the region or the departmental numbers below the map.

http://www.geoclip.fr/danseuse/carto.php?lang=fr

Interactive map of all French communes and cantons. Results are under the 'societe' tab, in 'regionales 2010 - 1er tour', and then choose an 'indicator' such as leading party, % vote for a specific party.



Thanks Smiley

I wanted to see the result of the partner-city of my town in France and there was the FN the strongest Party Sad
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« Reply #609 on: March 20, 2010, 03:30:03 PM »

Where can I find the results from individual cities?

http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/

Don't click on the actual map, click on the region or the departmental numbers below the map.

http://www.geoclip.fr/danseuse/carto.php?lang=fr

Interactive map of all French communes and cantons. Results are under the 'societe' tab, in 'regionales 2010 - 1er tour', and then choose an 'indicator' such as leading party, % vote for a specific party.



Thanks Smiley

I wanted to see the result of the partner-city of my town in France and there was the FN the strongest Party Sad

Which city is it?
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« Reply #610 on: March 20, 2010, 03:37:09 PM »

It's a small town near Lyon, called Pusignan
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« Reply #611 on: March 20, 2010, 04:03:11 PM »

It's a small town near Lyon, called Pusignan


Results make sense. Lower middle-class area, old industry and in an area where immigration/security themes are big. Perfect example of a strongly right-wing area with small shopkeepers, low unemployment; a big category which switched to the FN this year (and it seems similar to areas which would have voted Nazi in Germany in 1930 if it was Protestant...)

This used to be rather leftie, fwiw, but the UMP's campaigns on security in 2000 through 2007 have sealed the fate of the left here and Pusignan's constituency actually swung to the UMP in 2007. It's not a place I'd like to live in.
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« Reply #612 on: March 20, 2010, 08:15:48 PM »

Results within cities:

Lyon, by canton: http://www.elections.lyon.fr/scrutin/resultats.php?ONGLET=resultats&TYPECARTE=cantons&SCRUTIN=31&TOUR=1&DECOUPAGE=28&CANTON=&TYPE=4
Rennes, by canton and voting booth: http://www.elections.rennes.fr/index.php?id=84
Nice, for a lot of stuff: http://usagers.ville-nice.fr/webelecv2/accueil.aspx
Grenoble, by voting booth: http://www.grenoble.fr/regionales2010/carte1.html (map)
Toulouse, by voting booth: http://elections.toulouse.fr/resultats_elect_reg.asp (if you know the poll number... lol)
Bordeaux, by canton: http://www.bordeaux.fr/ebx/portals/ebx.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pgPresStand8&classofcontent=presentationStandard&id=49779
Le Havre, by canton Smiley: http://elections.ville-lehavre.fr/2010/vote_regionales.asp?tour=1

Hopefully, I'll find more in the next few days
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« Reply #613 on: March 21, 2010, 01:40:08 AM »

Do you also have the results of Reims ? It´s the partner city of Salzburg.
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« Reply #614 on: March 21, 2010, 03:27:24 AM »

Damn, this geoclip is really awesome ! Cheesy
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« Reply #615 on: March 21, 2010, 08:03:58 AM »

'Heavy' early turnout:18.57% (16.55% in 2004, 16.07% last week)

Do you also have the results of Reims ? It´s the partner city of Salzburg.

http://www.ville-reims.fr/fr/actualites/en-detail/index.html?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3768&tx_ttnews[backPid]=1121&cHash=15cbea1c28

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« Reply #616 on: March 21, 2010, 11:41:05 AM »

Turnout will be superior to the first round, unsurprisingly: 43.47% (39.29% last Sunday but 51.24% in 2004). Ifop predicts 47.5% abstention, +6 on last week.

The Ministry is tweeting turnout levels by region: http://twitter.com/Place_Beauvau
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« Reply #617 on: March 21, 2010, 11:56:29 AM »

When are the polls closing and do we get some immediate projections or exit polls from the regions ?
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« Reply #618 on: March 21, 2010, 12:04:23 PM »

Seems like this Didier Robert guy from the UMP has won in Réunion with 45% of the vote.

Paul Vergès, the Communist incumbent, is second with 37% and Michel Vergoz from the PS has 16%.
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« Reply #619 on: March 21, 2010, 12:20:47 PM »

A voté. 2 votes (procuration), 2 Malvy.

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« Reply #620 on: March 21, 2010, 12:22:31 PM »

When are the polls closing and do we get some immediate projections or exit polls from the regions ?

20:00, as always. I suppose TNS-Sofres, OpinionWay will have some stuff.

TNS-Sofres: http://www.tns-sofres.com/regionales2010/ (20:00 - national and PACA, Poitou-Charentes, Alsace, Rhône-Alpes, Languedoc-Roussillon; 21:00 - IDF)
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« Reply #621 on: March 21, 2010, 01:06:51 PM »

Just saw that the TV5 channel, which I have on my cable TV, brings some live coverage from 7.45-9pm.

Probably won´t understand much but will watch it anyway.

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« Reply #622 on: March 21, 2010, 01:12:49 PM »

Just saw that the TV5 channel, which I have on my cable TV, brings some live coverage from 7.45-9pm.

Probably won´t understand much but will watch it anyway.



You can look the live coverage in English on France24.com
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« Reply #623 on: March 21, 2010, 01:18:25 PM »

Just saw that the TV5 channel, which I have on my cable TV, brings some live coverage from 7.45-9pm.

Probably won´t understand much but will watch it anyway.

There is France24 in English too, but seems they don't make a special TV coverage, or I haven't found it:

http://www.france24.com/en/aef_player_popup/france24_player#

France2, one of the 2 big, also broadcast it on the net:

http://info.france2.fr/elections/regionales-2010/videos/?idcategorie=mea2&type=direct
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« Reply #624 on: March 21, 2010, 01:26:54 PM »

The turnout projection is now 51%. It remains extremely low, but significantly higher than for last round. This is likely to favor the right, but I doubt it will play a determinating role.
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