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« on: August 31, 2009, 01:36:52 PM »

Prologue
The necessity for an Allied invasion of Britain in retrospect was debatable. Moseley's puppet government could have been easily toppled from within, but the fallout between the left and right in Britain over Halifax's disasterous interim government which led to the rise of Moseley and the BUF led Roosevelt and Stalin to favour an outright assault.

There were spoils to be had post-war. With pressure from former Ambassador Kennedy, Northern Ireland was annexed by the Republic of Ireland (with a few military concessions to the USA) England was occupied but remained intact but it was the 'Celtic' nations which fell victim to effect of Stalin's pen.

Two People's Republics; Scotland and Wales were the price the Allies had to pay for stability. The border regions became dangerous 'half way' zones and it was only the construction of the 'Trumans Wall' (not really a wall of course...) defense in the north of England which stopped Tyneside becoming devoid of residents. Carlisle was not so lucky; the town was effectively turned into a military fortress and novelty international checkpoint.

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William Gallagher in later years

The President of Scotland from 1945 to his death in 1965 was Fife based communist William Gallagher. Gallagher was adept at compromise and his first Council was not full of the ragtag Marxists and hangers on one would have expected, but was composed of a carefully selected group of prominent trade unionists and members of the labour movement. The transition from Labour Party to Socialist Labour Party and effective front for the entire Socialist state was swift. Not to forget that some of the more statist Unionist Party politicians found a home in the state too...

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2009, 02:43:26 PM »

There were spoils to be had post-war. With pressure from former Ambassador Kennedy, Northern Ireland was annexed by the Republic of Ireland (with a few military concessions to the USA) England was occupied but remained intact but it was the 'Celtic' nations which fell victim to effect of Stalin's pen.

I really can't see this happening without another war. Either the NI government uses this situation if possible (though in all probability there would be no effective NI govt in this situation. The demographics of any NI resistance would be interesting... this would all make the situation probably worse) to declare itself officially independent and strengthens its legal structure towards a fully bloated apartheid system - or worse, mass departation. Or seizing his opportunity De Valera invades whatever is left of the NI state leading to a civil war and rounds of violence and etc. Or both Of course in this I am also wrongly assuming that neutral Ireland would remain neutral and independant in the case of Operation Sealion being a success.. which is unlikely. Aahh, too many what-ifs.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2009, 06:47:10 PM »

I can barely see a Soviet Scotland, but a Soviet Wales?  The Soviets didn't have the navy needed to invade Britain on their own.
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 02:44:45 AM »

I can barely see a Soviet Scotland, but a Soviet Wales?  The Soviets didn't have the navy needed to invade Britain on their own.

The pre-amble is they didnt; it was invated 'German style' and partitioned.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 07:00:45 AM »

The Prime of Mr William Gallagher.

Scotland in the late 40's, though weary from war was, unlike the south of England left fairly structurally intact. It's factories and yards hit 1939 levels of production by late 1946 and by 1949 had reached pre-Depression levels. This gave Scotland an economic boom, but the profits of that boom were of course absorbed by the State and invested in yet more economic stimulus. The sleepy village of East Kilbride became Europes largest construction site as a new town, Marxburgh rose from the green fields. Concerns about 'protecting the homes and roots of the proletariat' had put a halt to plans to rebuild most of Glasgow and while the Gorbals,at this time the most densly populated community in Europe was spared the bulldozers, it's population was managed and reduced.

In the early 50's Glasgow also received it's first boatload of East German 'settlers'; part of a skills and learning 'exchange' program (though what was actually exchanged in return has never been identified) embraced heartily by the state. As Scots moved out to Marxburgh and the second new town of MacLean on the Ayrshire coast, Germans moved in, ballooning to some 57,000 by 1961. The Gorbals became the centre of not only Glasgow Jewish community but also it's German community a curio of which the state seemed to be perversely proud.

Edinburgh seemed forlorn in comparison. It remained the capital, with the State seizing the Royal High School and the General Assembly buildings for it's own use, with the Red Army garrisoned on the Castle but the state didn't have much time for Edinburgh's 'imperialistic' grandeur and wasn't sure what to do with it. The Soviets, in order to improve access to the Castle began to tear down the medieval Royal Mile (now Stalin Street) and it was only through local, discreet pressure that this was halted. However space was a premium in Edinburgh and the Princes Gardens (curiosly not re-named; always a sure indicator that such things were not long for the world) was transformed into a concrete square befitting a communist state. Glasgow may have been the heart of the workers republic, but Edinburgh was still destined to be the head.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 05:53:49 PM »

I can barely see a Soviet Scotland, but a Soviet Wales?  The Soviets didn't have the navy needed to invade Britain on their own.

The preamble is they didnt; it was invated 'German style' and partitioned.

Even so, without a considerable quid pro quo elsewhere in the world, I can't see even Roosevelt agreeing to a partition of South Britain to place a Soviet satellite there to surround England.  Of course, how the war ended with an Allied victory in 1945 without Britain being among the allies is even more of a mystery.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 03:28:47 AM »

Ah to hell with this then Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2009, 03:27:36 PM »


Don't let my picayune complains about plausibility halt this.  I'v enjoyed what you've written so far, and compared to some alt-history that gets professionally published, what you have so far is more plausible.
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2009, 02:29:25 AM »

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