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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2013, 03:53:08 pm »

Worst: SC Democratic Party, NJ Democratic Party, AR Republican Party (despite the state's conservative trend)

 I think the rise of the AR Republicans has more to do with the ineptness of the Democrats, independent of the state's trend.

Yeah, the AR Dems really fell apart after the 2008 primary, it seems.
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2013, 04:50:14 pm »

pretty much every deep south Dem party is in shambles. AL, GA, MS, TN, FL and every northeast GOP party.  VT, MA, CT, RI, DE, MD, NY.

Also the NV repubs are notoriously bad (infighting galore) as well as the CA repubs.

As for well run parties, probably the NC,VA, OR, MT, VT, WV Dems. and GOP in the deep south states and parts of the midwest such as KS and WY.

And the New Jersey Dems are really bad because that criminal Corzine stuck his monied fangs into that party and destroyed it.. leaving New Jerseyians with little choice but Chris Christie.
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2013, 04:51:25 pm »

Deep Southern Dems, CA GOP for worst.

Best: VA Dems, WI Pubs.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2013, 04:58:18 pm »

CA GOP. Their ideology is in line with Utah's but they don't seem to grasp the politics and demographics of the state they run in.
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2013, 05:31:56 pm »

The TX Dems win handily as being the worst state Democratic Parties.
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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2013, 05:41:44 pm »

TX and FL Dems, CA Republicans for the worst.
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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2013, 08:50:44 pm »

CA GOP. Their ideology is in line with Utah's but they don't seem to grasp the politics and demographics of the state they run in.

Flipping your post around, the Utah Dems are pretty bad, though I don't know if that's their fault, or the state's fault.
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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2013, 08:42:21 am »

My vote goes to the Texas and Florida GOP as the best. As well as the Democrats in Virginia.

Worst is a tough call, but I would have to say the Colorado GOP, and maybe the Florida Democrats.
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2013, 09:14:36 am »

Worst is a tough call, but I would have to say the Colorado GOP, and maybe the Florida Democrats.

Definitely agree with Colorado GOP. They're certainly up there.

Makes you wonder how safe the Arizona party is considering the neighboring California, Nevada and Colorado ones. Is it the mega coattails from Utah keeping them safe?
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2013, 02:11:08 pm »

CO Republicans are horrendous but its a step up from previous years (that's saying absolutely nothing).

CO Dems are solid, probably not the best and its hard to truly test them when they're up against nothing, but they are not a mess that's for sure.
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2013, 03:17:54 pm »

The state Democratic Party of Wisconsin is awful.
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« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2013, 12:50:40 am »

Could the WA GOP be one of the worst?
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« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2013, 12:57:52 am »

I'd give Indiana Republicans some props, despite the horrible Mourdock win. In two cycles, they managed to go from minority status in the House and only 4 Congressional seats to having a complete super-majority in both houses of the legislature, 7/9 Congressional seats, and all statewide offices. If not for Mourdock, I think they'd certainly be in contention for being the best.
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« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2013, 12:16:16 pm »

Kentucky Democrats are actually very very good.
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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2013, 01:32:24 pm »

Could the WA GOP be one of the worst?

They're doing okay. McKenna came dangerously close to beating Inslee last year, they got a Congressional map that shored up their two most in danger incumbents (Reichert and Beutler), and almost beat Murray and Gregoire in 2010. If Reichert, Beutler, or CMR ran against Murray in 2016 they might be able to make her sweat a bit.

They also have the only statewide GOP elected official on the West Coast, with Kim Wyman as Secretary of State.
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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2013, 05:55:19 pm »

Virginia Dems, really? Same Dems who have no choice but to nominate Terry McAuliffe for a very winnable governors race?

In 2008, they managed to turn a state that hadn't gone Dem since 1964 into a lean-Dem swing state, with both Senate seats to boot, and they did it again in 2012.  I think that's a significant accomplishment.

2008 was kind of a short term thing as they lost all of the House seats they gained that year save one in 2010 and didnt get them back in 2012. 

They also fell further into the House of Delegates minority in 2011 by losing a bunch of seats that they had no business losing.  Additionally, they lost their State Senate majority because Roscoe Reynolds only won by single digits in heavily Democratic Danville in his district. 
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« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2013, 09:10:51 am »

Best: TX Republicans, FL Republicans, VA Democrats, KY Democrats, WV Democrats
Worst: WV Republicans, OR Republicans, MN Republicans, CO Republicans, NH Republicans, MD Republicans, DE Republicans, MA Republicans, ID Democrats, WY Democrats, HI Republicans
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« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2013, 09:33:23 am »

I'd give Indiana Republicans some props, despite the horrible Mourdock win. In two cycles, they managed to go from minority status in the House and only 4 Congressional seats to having a complete super-majority in both houses of the legislature, 7/9 Congressional seats, and all statewide offices. If not for Mourdock, I think they'd certainly be in contention for being the best.

Just looked at Indiana's General Assembly.

Damn.  It's almost as Republican as Oklahoma.

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« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2013, 10:52:35 am »

MT GOP seems pretty bad.  A GOP state in the presidential years and no available candidate except Danny Rehberg?
TN Dems' dissarray was displayed last year in their nomination and official disavowal Mark Clayton.

VA Dems are probably too organized for their own good.  Otherwise you'd have someone willing to go up against a seriously flawed party establishment man.
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« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2013, 05:17:51 am »

Anyone have any nominations for "worst parties in states strong for their party"?
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« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2013, 05:52:59 am »

Anyone have any nominations for "worst parties in states strong for their party"?

New York Democrats.
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« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2013, 04:01:37 pm »

Anyone have any nominations for "worst parties in states strong for their party"?

If by strong you mean favorable then:

Montana Republicans
Wisconsin Democrats
Rhode Island Democrats
Maine Democrats
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« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2013, 06:02:20 pm »

Anyone have any nominations for "worst parties in states strong for their party"?

New York Democrats.

The only thing wrong with New York Dems in their inability to get a clear majority in the State Senate, which is their own fault for letting Republicans draw the maps.  Even with the current, GOP drawn maps, Dems should still have a few more seats, like Robach's on the north shore, Grisanti's in Buffalo, and a few more on Long Island. 
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« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2013, 01:25:25 am »



Yeah, they probably take the cake. Of the last 5 Presidential elections, they won 3 of them, and had another stolen from them, and yet they are in terrible shape in the US House and state offices there.
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« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2013, 08:11:36 am »

Could the WA GOP be one of the worst?

They're doing okay. McKenna came dangerously close to beating Inslee last year, they got a Congressional map that shored up their two most in danger incumbents (Reichert and Beutler), and almost beat Murray and Gregoire in 2010. If Reichert, Beutler, or CMR ran against Murray in 2016 they might be able to make her sweat a bit.

They also have the only statewide GOP elected official on the West Coast, with Kim Wyman as Secretary of State.
The WA GOP has run some good candidates. The cupboard isn't bare, but they just can't win because it seems like each candidate makes the mistake of moving to the right during the summer and of course, the democrats come home in the end. 

CO GOP has to be the worst.  The party literally died in that state over the past decade.
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