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« on: September 04, 2009, 05:03:17 PM »
« edited: September 21, 2009, 02:17:02 AM by big bad fab »
Time for new survivors !

More technical, less political (or not ?), more interesting...

Simple rule: vote for the president you want to eliminate.
Each round is open for 24 hours+, except round 1 which will be longer, to let you some time to read upon them if you don't know everything of each one of them...

(And don't forget to vote in my 20th Century History Makers Survivor, in History board !)

1. Walter Hallstein 1958-1967
2. Jean Rey 1967-1970
3. Franco Maria Malfatti 1970-1972
4. Sicco Mansholt 1972-1973
5. François-Xavier Ortoli 1973-1977
6. Roy Jenkins 1977-1981
7. Gaston Thorn 1981-1985
SURVIVOR !8. Jacques Delors 1985-1995
SURVIVOR !9. Jacques Santer 1995-1999
10. Romano Prodi 1999-2004
11. José Manuel Barroso 2004-...

Results:
round one: Thorn 5, Barroso 1
round two: Barroso 4, Malfatti 1
round three: Malfatti 4, Prodi 1
round four: Santer 2, Ortoli 1
round five: Ortoli 3, Mansholt 2
round six: Mansholt 3, Prodi 1
round seven: Jenkins 5
round eight: Prodi 4, Hallstein 1
round nine: Hallstein 3, Rey 2
round ten: Rey 6
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2009, 05:09:04 PM »
Gaston Thorn

dull Luxo having implemented... nothing
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 05:38:21 AM »
It seems as if this one is less popualr than the UN survivor...
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2009, 04:13:08 PM »
Quote from: Kalwejt on September 05, 2009, 11:00:42 AM
One more thing: I'd include Manuel Marín

Since my "bad" experience with the German Chancellors Survivor where I included Scheel, was criticized (rightly I think) for it and saw Scheel being eliminated only in the last third of the Survivor.... I'm very reluctant to include the interim guys.
Marin was really and only an interim guy (even if he may have done more things than Thorn !)
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2009, 02:00:52 PM »
Almost universally despised, Thorn is out.

ROUND TWO IS OPEN

Vote away !

I vote for Malfatti, not a big one either...
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2009, 04:18:46 PM »
Barroso has the most difficult spectrum of national leaders (and the most numerous in history !) for a very long time...
Schröder and Merkel were not so sure a European for a German chancellor, Sarkozy is a weird rider, Berlusconi is Berlusconi, Blair and then Brown OMG, Kaczynskis, Klaus, new Dutch scepticism, Luxembourg under fire, rebellious Ireland...

Well, I think he's doing COMPARATIVELY a better job than even Hallstein, Rey and Ortoli: they were in so easy times...
I don't like Barroso so much per se, but he deserves some respect for his... patience !
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2009, 04:35:15 PM »
« Edited: September 08, 2009, 03:53:51 AM by big bad fab »
Barroso is eliminated with 80% !

ROUND THREE IS OPEN

Vote away !

I vote for Malfatti again: in the EU, he didn't do anything noticeable and, as soon as he can go back to Rome, he did it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2009, 03:08:31 AM »
Malfatti is eliminated with 80% of votes.

ROUND FOUR IS OPEN

Vote away!
(list of remaining presidents in opening post)
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2009, 09:30:38 AM »
I vote for Ortoli.

Well, he was there to insure that the EU doesn't take a federal path...
Not a bad one, not a great one.
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2009, 09:36:43 AM »
Quote from: Hans-im-Glück on September 09, 2009, 09:31:36 AM
Sicco Mansholt

Not really a bad man , but only a few month President of the Commission and I don't know he did something we must remember

He would be "in" now Wink
See Club of Rome and "zero growth"...
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 08:13:24 AM »
Hey guys, come & vote !
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2009, 04:08:22 PM »
A tie Ortoli-Mansholt-Santer...

Anybody to break it ?
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2009, 06:14:56 PM »
Thanks, Hans-im-Glück, I was about to do the same Wink

So, dull Luxo Santer is out.

ROUND FIVE IS OPEN
Vote away !

I vote for Ortoli again.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2009, 01:59:53 AM »
Anyone to break our tie ?
Kalwejt ?
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2009, 10:39:24 AM »
Thanks Kal, Ortoli is out.

ROUND ISX IS OPEN

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I vote for Romano Prodi.
Not very effective. He spoke a lot...
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2009, 09:59:03 AM »
The weird Dutch is out.

ROUND SEVEN IS OPEN

Vote away !

I really want to vote for Prodi (Im not judging on personal qualities or past -Hallstein would indeed have been eliminated early), but on real work as president of the EU Commission.
And, well, Prodi's action hasn't been very successful...
But I know Prodi won't be ousted even in next round.
Hallstein and Rey were efficient guys at the beginning of the process. Delors is Delors. These 3 deserve really to stay.

So, I vote for Roy Jenkins.
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2009, 10:28:12 AM »
Jenkins is unanimously eliminated.

ROUND EIGHT IS OPEN

Vote away !

I vote for Prodi.

Again, Hallstein and Rey were efficient in their job of building the EEC.
Delors is of course the best (we'll see Wink).
So, well, what has done Prodi, in a very concrete way ?
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2009, 03:18:17 PM »
Quote from: Antonio V on September 16, 2009, 01:31:48 PM
Prodi, veeeeeeeeery reluctantly and just to please fab. Tongue
Oh, thanks Smiley
But, really, if we just stick to the subject of this survivor and as Kal has just explained in a nutshell, Prodi was mediocre in this job (of course as Italian PM, he was far less bad than Silvio...).
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2009, 04:32:21 PM »
Ciao Romano !

ROUND NINE IS OPEN

Vote away !

I vote for Hallstein.

Quite difficult between him and Jean Rey, though.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2009, 04:06:46 PM »
Quote from: Antonio V on September 18, 2009, 01:47:43 PM
Hallstein.

Also, we're gonna have a 100% french final ? Cheesy

I see that you've achieved the annexation of Wallonie into France, haven't you ?
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2009, 04:45:38 PM »
Our big final: Jacques Delors - Jean Rey, after Wlater Hallstein has been eliminated.

ROUND TEN IS OPEN

Vote for the President of the EU Commission you want to ELIMINATE.
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2009, 11:16:25 AM »
Eliminate Rey
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2009, 04:10:35 PM »
Degrelle wouldn't hava agreed with us !! Wink
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2009, 02:19:04 AM »
Not a surprise here, Delors is the big survivor: he hasn't received any vote during this game...



At least, one French has been able to win a Survivor....
Well, I guess that there will be one in Hashemite's own survivor on... 20th century French heads of executive ! Wink
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