Rush Limbaugh comes out in favor of school segregation

[Luis Gonzalez]

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wow.
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Joe Wilson's not a fascist, and for the record, Obama was lying.

Illegal aliens will get coverage under a public option. Federal Courts have already settled that matter.

Plyler vs. Doe (1982)

[Luis Gonzalez]

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/17/limbaugh-segregated-busing/

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wow.

Joe Wilson's not a fascist, and for the record, Obama was lying.

Illegal aliens will get coverage under a public option. Federal Courts have already settled that matter.

Plyler vs. Doe (1982)

what?
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The Fourteenth Amendment provides that

[n]o State shall . . . deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

(Emphasis added.) Appellants argue at the outset that undocumented aliens, because of their immigration status, are not "persons within the jurisdiction" of the State of Texas, and that they therefore have no right to the equal protection of Texas law. We reject this argument. Whatever his status under the immigration laws, an alien is surely a "person" in any ordinary sense of that term. Aliens, even aliens whose presence in this country is unlawful, have long been recognized as "persons" guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. Shaughnessv v. Mezei, 345 U.S. 206, 212 (1953); Wong Wing v. United States, 163 U.S. 228, 238 (1896); Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356, 369 (1886). Indeed, we have clearly held that the Fifth Amendment protects aliens whose presence in this country is unlawful from invidious discrimination by the Federal Government. Mathews v. Diaz, 426 U.S. 67, 77 (1976). [n9] [p211]

Appellants seek to distinguish our prior cases, emphasizing that the Equal Protection Clause directs a State to afford its protection to persons within its jurisdiction, while the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments contain no such assertedly limiting phrase. In appellants' view, persons who have entered the United States illegally are not "within the jurisdiction" of a State even if they are present within a State's boundaries and subject to its laws. Neither our cases nor the logic of the Fourteenth Amendment support that constricting construction of the phrase "within its jurisdiction." [n10] We have never suggested that the class of persons who might avail themselves of the equal protection guarantee is less than coextensive with that entitled to due process. To the contrary, we have recognized [p212] that both provisions were fashioned to protect an identical class of persons, and to reach every exercise of state authority.

The Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution is not confined to the protection of citizens. It says:

Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

These provisions are universal in their application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality, and the protection of the laws is a pledge of the protection of equal laws.

Plyler v. Doe.

Illegal aliens will get health care benefits under a public option.

One would imagine that the editor of the Harvard Law Review, and lecturer in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago would know this.

[Luis Gonzalez]

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/17/limbaugh-segregated-busing/

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wow.

Joe Wilson's not a fascist, and for the record, Obama was lying.

Illegal aliens will get coverage under a public option. Federal Courts have already settled that matter.

Plyler vs. Doe (1982)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but this bill does not cover illegals at all (not that it's a bad thing to do that) and Plyler v. Doe has nothing to do with health care.
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The “Section 246 Proves Joe Wilson Is A Liar” Lie

[Luis Gonzalez]

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/17/limbaugh-segregated-busing/

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wow.

Joe Wilson's not a fascist, and for the record, Obama was lying.

Illegal aliens will get coverage under a public option. Federal Courts have already settled that matter.

Plyler vs. Doe (1982)

what?

The Fourteenth Amendment provides that

[n]o State shall . . . deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

(Emphasis added.) Appellants argue at the outset that undocumented aliens, because of their immigration status, are not "persons within the jurisdiction" of the State of Texas, and that they therefore have no right to the equal protection of Texas law. We reject this argument. Whatever his status under the immigration laws, an alien is surely a "person" in any ordinary sense of that term. Aliens, even aliens whose presence in this country is unlawful, have long been recognized as "persons" guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. Shaughnessv v. Mezei, 345 U.S. 206, 212 (1953); Wong Wing v. United States, 163 U.S. 228, 238 (1896); Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356, 369 (1886). Indeed, we have clearly held that the Fifth Amendment protects aliens whose presence in this country is unlawful from invidious discrimination by the Federal Government. Mathews v. Diaz, 426 U.S. 67, 77 (1976). [n9] [p211]

Appellants seek to distinguish our prior cases, emphasizing that the Equal Protection Clause directs a State to afford its protection to persons within its jurisdiction, while the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments contain no such assertedly limiting phrase. In appellants' view, persons who have entered the United States illegally are not "within the jurisdiction" of a State even if they are present within a State's boundaries and subject to its laws. Neither our cases nor the logic of the Fourteenth Amendment support that constricting construction of the phrase "within its jurisdiction." [n10] We have never suggested that the class of persons who might avail themselves of the equal protection guarantee is less than coextensive with that entitled to due process. To the contrary, we have recognized [p212] that both provisions were fashioned to protect an identical class of persons, and to reach every exercise of state authority.

The Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution is not confined to the protection of citizens. It says:

Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

These provisions are universal in their application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality, and the protection of the laws is a pledge of the protection of equal laws.

Plyler v. Doe.

Illegal aliens will get health care benefits under a public option.

One would imagine that the editor of the Harvard Law Review, and lecturer in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago would know this.

Thanks for staying on topic, Luis. You can join Neal Patel in the uncontrolled outbursts section now.
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Play it loose, play it fast...just responding to the fashionable lie being sported by the guy I was talking to.

[Luis Gonzalez]

What are you talking about? This thread is about how Rush Limbaugh is a racist, not about how the scary browns are gonna get socialized medicines.

Racists...fascists...and I thought t was Republicans who had anger issues.

[Luis Gonzalez]

What are you talking about? This thread is about how Rush Limbaugh is a racist, not about how the scary browns are gonna get socialized medicines.

Racists...fascists...and I thought t was Republicans who had anger issues.

Do you have problems in your brain? Or do you whack your head against the keyboard and see what comes out?

Wilson is a fascist, Rush is a racist.

There are head problems in here, but I'm not the one having them.

[Luis Gonzalez]

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I didn't set up anything...the Courts did. In addition to this, they overturned California's Prop. 187 on exactly the same grounds.

So now, we have two instances of Federal Courts finding that illegal immigrants cannot be denied the equal protection of the laws under the Constitution.

It is disingenuous to dismiss the FACT that on two separate occasions, the Courts have found that laws which seek to exclude illegal aliens from receiving equal benefits have been found to be unconstitutional by Federal Courts, and equally disingenuous to argue that once the government enters into the business of dispensing health care, health care will not be at least as important a function of government as education is today.

The argument being advanced to "win" the public option debate is that health care is a "right", so if the argument is won, then the State would be in fact denying what they themselves are calling a "basic human right" to a group of people.

Prop. 187 sought to bar illegal aliens from accessing publicly funded education, social services and health care services, and it was found to be unconstitutional.

So will any verbiage introduced in any Federal bill associated with Federal health care.