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« on: September 25, 2009, 08:21:11 PM »
« edited: October 03, 2010, 02:33:08 PM by NE Assembyman electoraljew2 »

June 3rd, 2008- Hillary Clinton wins democratic nomination against Barack Obama with a majority of Super Delegates supporting her.


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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 08:35:04 AM »
« Edited: March 08, 2010, 08:05:41 AM by electoraljew2 »

June 4, 2008- The Day after Senator Clinton wins nomination, Former Vice President Al Gore makes a joint appearance and endorses her.

June 6, 2008- Unemployment at 5.6%.

June 7, 2008- Illinois Senator Barack Obama endorses Clinton and sets up several public appearances with her to support her campaign.

"With Hillary Clinton as our President, we can get the change we need in this country!"

June 2008- Senator McCain vigorousely attacks Senator Clinton on all the issues and says that we are not in a recession that the economy is perfectly fine and offers several town hall debates to Clinton. Clinton agrees.

July 1, 2008- During the debate, McCain attacks Clinton on being soft on Iraq and Afghanistan and also on her health Care plan.

July 2, 2008- Unemployment at 5.8%

Who will you vote for on Election Day?
McCain 46.5%
Clinton 44.7%


Average polling by state


McCain 274
Clinton 264

Maine
Clinton 47.0%
McCain 42.3%

New Hampshire
McCain 51.9%
Clinton 44.6%

Pennsylvania
Clinton 48.2%
McCain 47.9%

Ohio
Clinton 47.2%
McCain 47.1%

Kentucky
McCain 50.4%
Clinton 46.3%

Indiana
McCain 48.9%
Clinton 39.2%

Michigan
Clinton 49.1%
McCain 46.1%

Illinois
McCain 43.1%
Clinton 43%

Wisonsin
McCain 51.0%
Clinton 46.0%

Iowa
McCain 54.6%
Clinton 40.7%

Minnesota
McCain 47.2%
Clinton 44%

Missouri
Clinton 48.1%
McCain 44.9%

Arkansas
Clinton 52.1%
McCain 41.8%

Florida
Clinton 49.8%
McCain 47.6%

New Mexico
Clinton 50.4%
McCain 46.7%

Colorado
McCain 55.6%
Clinton 39.4%

Nevada
Clinton 45.2%
McCain 45%

Washington
McCain 51.6%
Clinton 43.8%

Oregan
McCain 49.7%
Clinton 37.5%

Hawaii
McCain 49.7%
Clinton 43.7%
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2009, 01:27:17 PM »

Excellent, but I feel sorry for Obama.
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2009, 01:48:02 PM »

Good potential for a timeline, but there's no way McCain is even close in Illinois, let alone leading.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2009, 04:10:14 PM »

Yes, another "we really could win in 2008 yo stupid libruls"
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 04:15:03 PM »

Good start! Smiley
Some constructive critism: One poll had Illinois close early, but that is probably because many Obama supporters weren't voting Clinton. I guess they were trying to ruin her numbers to make Obama look better. Especially with Obama endorsing Clinton, she would be leading.
Pennyslvania would be an easy win for Clinton, and Washington wouldn't be for McCain. Neither would Hawaii.

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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 05:24:21 PM »

Are you basing these numbers on anything?

pollster.com has a lot of old polls...43% Clinton in Hawaii to 39% McCain and that was in late February
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2009, 05:40:32 PM »

Good so far, but I agree with everybody about Illinois, Washington, and Hawaii. I also doubt Minnesota would go for McCain. And I definitely don't see McCain leading by twelve points in Oregon.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2009, 08:16:48 PM »

July 6, 2008- During the 3rd town hall debate, Senator Clinton steps up the attacks on McCain on the economy and rising un-employment.


Who do think won the town hall?
Clinton 78.9%
McCain 21.1%



Who do you support for President?
McCain 45.1%
Clinton 44.9%


July 17- John McCain visits Iraq and returns saying that the surge has made Iraq a much safer place than when he last went.



August 1- Unemployment at 5.8%


Who will you vote for on election day?
Clinton 45.4%
McCain 44.9%






Clinton 305
McCain 233

Maine
Clinton 46.9%
McCain 42.8%

New Hampshire
McCain 49.9%
Clinton 46.7%

Pennsylvania
Clinton 48.4%
McCain 47.5%

Ohio
Clinton 48.3%
McCain 46.9%

Kentucky
McCain 49.3%
Clinton 46.5%

Indiana
McCain 46.9%
Clinton 42.1%

Michigan
Clinton 49.1%
McCain 43.1%

Illinois
Clinton 45.6%
McCain 42.1%

Wisconsin
McCain 50.8%
Clinton 46.2%

Iowa
McCain 49.5%
Clinton 41.9%

Minnesota
Clinton 47.2%
McCain 44.0%

Missouri
Clinton 48.1%
McCain 44.8%

Arkansas
Clinton 51.1%
McCain 41.9%

Florida
Clinton 49.6%
McCain 47.6%

New Mexico
Clinton 50.4%
McCain 45.7%

Colorado
McCain 50.6%
Clinton 40.4%

Nevada
Clinton 46.2%
McCain 45.3%

Washington
Clinton 47.0%
McCain 46.7%

Oregon
McCain 49.7%
Clinton 47.5%

Hawaii
Clinton 49.7%
McCain 43.7%
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2009, 11:08:00 PM »

August - Speculation rises over who Senator Clinton will pick for candidate for Vice President. Some names include- Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, Illinois Senator Barack Obama, Governor Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania and Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico.

August 8th - 16th The country of Georgia launches a military offense to capture Tskhinvali. The conflict ends on August 16th.


August 21st - Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton announces that she picks Illinois Senator Barack Obama as her running mate.


August 25th - During the first day of the Democratic National Convention in Indianapolis Former President Bill Clinton spoke in support for his wife's presidential campaign along with Caroline Kennedy and Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell.


Who will you vote for on Election Day?
Clinton 46.1%
McCain 42.9%



Clinton 331
McCain 198
Tied 9

Maine
Clinton 48.9%
McCain 42.6%

New Hampshire
McCain 47.6%
Clinton 47.6%

Pennsylvania
Clinton 48.4%
McCain 46.4%

Ohio
Clinton 48.5%
McCain 47.1%

Kentucky
McCain 49.1%
Clinton 47.5%

Indiana
McCain 46.4%
Clinton 44.1%

Michigan
Clinton 49.8%
McCain 42.1%

Illinois
Clinton 53.9%
McCain 40.1%

Wisconsin
Clinton 44.8%
McCain 44.2%

Iowa
McCain 45.5%
Clinton 44.9%

Minnesota
Clinton 50.2%
McCain 43.8%

Missouri
Clinton 47.9%
McCain 44.7%

Arkansas
Clinton 48.7%
McCain 43.9%

Florida
Clinton 49.5%
McCain 47.3%

New Mexico
Clinton 47.6%
McCain 40.1%

Colorado
McCain 47.8%
Clinton 43.2%

Nevada
McCain 44.7%
Clinton 44.5%

Washington
Clinton 49.0%
McCain 43.7%

West Virginia
Clinton 42.1%
McCain 42.1%

Oregon
Clinton 47.5%
McCain 46.3%

Hawaii
Clinton 59.7%
McCain 33.7%

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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2009, 02:16:48 PM »

I really think the Clinton/Obama ticket would do better in Iowa. McCain came in what, fourth place in Iowa? Obama won the state with a 10% margin.

They have a debate before they announce their VP picks?
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2009, 04:52:21 PM »

No, they don't and Iowa will catch on very soon.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2009, 11:47:51 PM »
« Edited: November 12, 2009, 05:32:00 PM by electoraljew2 »

August 26th - The second night of the DNC started off with a well received speech by South Dakota Senator Tom Daschle. The speech was followed by Delaware Senator Joe Biden and Virginia Governor Tim Kaine.



August 27th - Among other speakers tonight, clearly Vice Presidential candidate Barack Obamas was the most anticipated and watched.

"As we look on tonight, I see a new vision of change. We need to elect Hillary Clinton as our President and bring change to Washington, America and the world!"


August 28th - On the final night of this convention, Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton Makes her address to the DNC.

"Today un-employment is at 5.8%. Next month it could be even higher and it could be you losing your job. Have you seen your economic situation get better over the past eight years? I didn't think so. We need to take the Republicans out of office and get our country out of this recession. John McCain isn't going to do that, and I am. Tonight at this Convention , I hope you make the right choice for President and even if your life is good now, think about others around you who could have it much worse off." ect...


August 29th - Republican candidate John McCain chooses Tennessee Senator Lamar Alexander for vice president, shcoking many liberal pudints.


Who will you vote for on election day?
Clinton 48.5%
McCain 43.5%






Clinton 318
McCain 196
Tied 24

Maine
Clinton 50.2%
McCain 41.2%

New Hampshire
Clinton 47.7%
McCain 47.4%

Pennsylvania
Clinton 48.7%
McCain 46.3%

Ohio
Clinton 48.3%
McCain 47.6%

Kentucky
McCain 50.2%
Clinton 45.2%

Indiana
McCain 46.3%
Clinton 43.8%

Wisconsin
Clinton 45%
McCain 43.8%

Iowa
Clinton 45.5%
McCain 44.9%

Missouri
Clinton 46.3%
McCain 46.3%

Arkansas
Clinton 47.7%
McCain 44.1%

Virginia
Clinton 42.1%
McCain 42.1%

Florida
Clinton 49.4%
McCain 46.9%

New Mexico
Clinton 50%
McCain 40.3%

Colorado
McCain 45.8%
Clinton 43.5%

Nevada
McCain 44.5%
Clinton 44.4%

Washington
Clinton 49.1%
McCain 43.4%

West Virginia
McCain 42%
Clinton 41.9%

Oregon
Clinton 47.6%
McCain 46.1%

Hawaii
Clinton 60.2%
McCain 31.7%
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2009, 01:20:38 AM »

Lamar Alexander? Really?
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 08:58:12 AM »

September 1-3, 2008- The Start of the Republican National Convention  involved speeches by Cindy McCain, and Laura Bush.Speeches by President Bush and Joe Lieberman were canceled due to Hurricane Gustav. The following day, many keynote speeches were made by keynote speakers such as Fred Thompson, Rudy Giuliani, and Mitt Romney. On September 3rd, the most watched speech was made by republican vice presidential candidate Lamar Alexander from Tennessee. Manor pundints were shocked by McCains pick. Alexander swept the floor tonight, speaking of how our economy is not as bad as the democratic opponents say and that our two wars are necessary to combat major criminals in our world.

September 3rd- Unemployment is at 6.1%, up .3% from last month.

September 4th- On the last night of te Republican national convention, after several other speeches republican nominee John McCain spoke and accepted his nomination.
"Thank you all very much. Tonight, I have a privilege given few Americans — the privilege of accepting our party’s nomination for President of the United States. And I accept it with gratitude, humility and confidence. In my life, no success has come without a good fight, and this nomination wasn’t any different. That’s a tribute to the candidates who opposed me and their supporters. They’re leaders of great ability, who love our country, and wished to lead it to better days. Their support is an honor I won’t forget. I’m grateful to the President for leading us in those dark days following the worst attack on American soil in our history, and keeping us safe from another attack many thought was inevitable; and to the First Lady, Laura Bush, a model of grace and kindness in public and in private. And I’m grateful to the 41st President and his bride of 63 years, and for their outstanding example of honorable service to our country."

Who will you vote for on election day?
Clinton/Obama 48.3%
McCain/Alexander 44.7%



Clinton 311
McCain 221
Tied 6

Maine
Clinton 50.1%
McCain 41.5%

New Hampshire
Clinton 47.9%
McCain 47.3%

Pennsylvania
Clinton 48.6%
McCain 46.7%

Ohio
Clinton 48.4%
McCain 47.9%

Kentucky
McCain 53.1%
Clinton 42.2%

Indiana
McCain 46.7%
Clinton 43.6%

Wisconsin
Clinton 45.3%
McCain 43.9%

Iowa
Clinton 45.6%
McCain 45.1%

Missouri
McCain 46.8%
Clinton 45.9%

Arkansas
Clinton 46.7%
McCain 46.7%

Virginia
McCain 44.2%
Clinton 42.3%

Florida
Clinton 49.1%
McCain 47.1%

New Mexico
Clinton 50.1%
McCain 40.8%

Colorado
McCain 46.0%
Clinton 43.8%

Nevada
McCain 45.6%
Clinton 44.7%

Washington
Clinton 49.5%
McCain 43.5%

West Virginia
McCain 45.1%
Clinton 41.8%

Oregon
Clinton 47.9%
McCain 46.0%

Hawaii
Clinton 63.1%
McCain 27.7%

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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2010, 12:00:26 PM »

September 7th- Several days after the end of both major party conventions, Senator Clinton airs an aid attacking the McCain campaign for not acknowledging the financial crisis and the 6.1% unemployement.

September 15th, 2008- The country is shocked by the bancrupcy of Lehman brothers. On August 20, John McCain said in an interview with Politico that he was uncertain how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, owned; "I think — I'll have my staff get to you." Both on the stump and in Obama's political ad, "Seven", the gaffe was used to portray McCain as unable to relate to the concerns of ordinary Americans. This out-of-touch image was further cultivated when, on September 15, the day of the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy, at a morning rally in Jacksonville, Florida, McCain declared that "the fundamentals of our economy are strong," despite what he described as "tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall Street." With the perception among voters to the contrary, the comment appeared to cost McCain politically.


September 20th- Lehman Brothers file for bankrupcy.

September 24th- 4 days after the Lehman Brothers collapse, both Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and Republican nominee John McCain suspend their campaigns and head to Capitol Hill to help craft a $700 billion bailout package for the troubled financial industry. Whether or not the first debate schedualed for the 26th wil take place, is currently unknown.


Who will you vote for on election day?
Clinton/Obama 52.4%
McCain/Alexander 39.9%



Clinton 372
McCain 166
Tied 0

Maine
Clinton 54.2%
McCain 35.6%

New Hampshire
Clinton 51.2%
McCain 43.3%

Pennsylvania
Clinton 51.3%
McCain 40.7%

Ohio
Clinton 50.4%
McCain 42.9%

Kentucky
McCain 49.3%
Clinton 44.2%

Indiana
Clinton 46.4%
McCain 44.6%

Wisconsin
Clinton 52.4%
McCain 41.9%

Iowa
Clinton 50.3%
McCain 43.8%

Missouri
Clinton 47.8%
McCain 45.8%

Arkansas
Clinton 49.8%
McCain 44.7%

Virginia
Clinton 46.7%
McCain 42.2%

Florida
Clinton 51.1%
McCain 44.1%

New Mexico
Clinton 54.1%
McCain 38.9%

Colorado
Clinton 47.1%
McCain 44.8%

Nevada
Clinton 47.6%
McCain 44.9%

Washington
Clinton 53.5%
McCain 42.5%

West Virginia
Clinton 45.1%
McCain 43.8%

Oregon
Clinton 50.9%
McCain 46.0%

Hawaii
Clinton 71.3%
McCain 19.7%
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2010, 04:55:01 PM »

McCain-Alexander 2008!
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2010, 05:42:37 PM »

In this scenario, I think Hillary would easily kick McCain's ass all the way to Arizona.
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2010, 10:12:32 PM »

Thanks for the replies, guys! Smiley
Debates will be up tomorrow
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2010, 02:13:02 AM »

Good TL.
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2010, 09:00:57 AM »

September 26th 2008- After much speculation over whether the debate would occur, both John McCain and Hillary Clinton arrived at the University of Mississippi. Although the debate was planned to focus on foreign policy and national security, Jim Lehrer did devote the first half of the debate to the financial crisis. Over the course of the first half of the debate, Clinton easily blew McCain away on the financial crisis and hitting on key points such as unemployment, and that McCain had no plan for our failing economy until two days ago. After the talks of economics, McCain was able to bring the debate to somewhat of a standstill.


Who do you think one the debate?
Clinton 56%
McCain 19%
Not Sure 25%


October 1st- Unemployment at 6.2%


October 2nd- The 2008 Vice Presidential Debate was held today at washington University. The questions varied on all topics, but in all Alexander hit at how little experiance Obama had, being only two years in the senate and in national government politics. Although Obama swept the floor with Alexander on the economy, like Clinton did with McCain, Alexander was able to hit Obama with many other issues such as family values, and education.


Who do you think won the vice presidential debate?
Obama 37%
Alexander 32%
Not sure 31%

October 7th- The second presidential debate was held in Nashville townhall, and moderated by Tom Brokaw of NBC. With most of the past few weeks of news obsessing with the economy and major companies declaring bankrupcy, the focus of the debate was obvious, and so was the winner.


Who do you think won the debate?
Clinton 64%
McCain 28%
Not Sure 8%

October 15th- Thr third and final Presidential debate was held at Hofstra University in Hempsted, New York. With there having been a month since the financial meltdown began, McCain was able to somewhat keep up with Clinton on the economy. Clinton promiseed that if she became president, that by the end of her term the millions of newly unemployed people would have there jobs back and would no longer live in fear. McCain was viewed in this debate as out-of-touch with the American people on this major subject as he continuesly focused on how to bailout Wall Street and major companies, while making little referance to the average American. On Foreign Policy, McCain was able to win some ground with his plan to have a 30,000 troop surge in Afghanistan and promise the Osama Bin Laden will be a captive of the US government by the end of his first term. Clinton meanwhile spent more time focusing on withdrawing troops in Iraq.


Who do you think won the debate?
Clinton 57%
McCain 33%
Not Sure 10%

Who will you vote for on election day?
Clinton/Obama 53.1%
McCain/Alexander 40.2%




Clinton 372
McCain 143
Tied 23

Maine
Clinton 54.3%
McCain 35.9%

New Hampshire
Clinton 51.7%
McCain 43.2%

Pennsylvania
Clinton 52.1%
McCain 40.9%

Ohio
Clinton 51.7%
McCain 43.2%

Kentucky
McCain 46.1%
Clinton 46.1%

Indiana
Clinton 46.6%
McCain 44.9%

Wisconsin
Clinton 53.1%
McCain 42.1%

Iowa
Clinton 51.4%
McCain 43.9%

Missouri
Clinton 48.0%
McCain 45.6%

Arkansas
Clinton 50.2%
McCain 44.9%

Virginia
Clinton 48.1%
McCain 44.6%

Florida
Clinton 51.9%
McCain 44.0%

New Mexico
Clinton 54.3%
McCain 38.7%

Colorado
Clinton 47.5%
McCain 44.9%

Nevada
Clinton 50.6%
McCain 44.8%

Washington
Clinton 53.7%
McCain 42.4%

West Virginia
Clinton 45.4%
McCain 44.0%

Oregon
Clinton 51.0%
McCain 46.0%

Hawaii
Clinton 71.2%
McCain 20.1%

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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2010, 09:19:35 AM »
« Edited: February 22, 2010, 08:03:20 PM by electoraljew2 »


TL will continue till 2048 election
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2010, 01:21:58 PM »


Sweet. I will be paying close attention all the way. Obama 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2010, 10:28:41 AM »
« Edited: February 21, 2010, 05:10:07 PM by electoraljew2 »

October 18, 2008- Following all the debates, and Clinton's rising numbers, Senator McCain has been campaigning harder than ever. Senator Alexander has been in Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, and Missouri over the course of the past three days. Senator McCain has planned a trip across the country for the next ten days, visiting five different states each day.


October 21st- Visiting Pennsylvania today, Vice Presidential candidate Alexander blasted Clinton on education, saying that she did not have enough experience to help Americas failing schools.


October 22nd- Senator Clinton sent Senator Obama to respond to Alexanders criticism.

"I'm sorry Senator Alexander, but this isn't 1993. You haven't been in the education field in 15 years, what could you possibly know about our school systems today?


October 24th- Obama's comment was met by wide criticism by Republicans an independents. Although since we are in a recession, the comment was largely brushed off to focus on what people cared about the most--the economy.


October 29th- Following his 50 state trip, Senator McCain has returned with a new economic plan to cut taxes and earmark spending as well as help bailout several major companies, that he vows will go to the house as soon as he becomes President. An unnamed source claims that McCain does not plan to go through with his plan, and it is only a last ditch effort to defeat Clinton.


November 1st- Now in the days before the election, the Clinton has decided that due to poll numbers, they don't need to campaign anymore as the winner is already sealed.

"Goodbye Ohio, next time I see you it will be as President-elect of the United States." Clinton said in her last speech.


November 2nd- Unemployment at 6.6%

November 3rd, 2008- The day before the election, McCain's chances look grim as he heads to his last campaign stop in Richmond, Virginia.


Who will you vote for on election day?
Clinton/Obama 53.3%
McCain/Alexander 43.5%
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2010, 12:23:51 PM »

Some polls, all reviews welcome. Smiley

If both Senator Clinton and Senator McCain died, which candidate do you think would be best fit to be president?
Senator Obama 51%
Senator Alexander 46%

Who do you think will best help the economy?
Clinton 71%
McCain 21%

Who do you think will win the election?
Clinton/Obama 88%
McCain/Alexander 7%
Not sure 5%
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