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« Reply #5375 on: January 08, 2012, 02:06:01 AM »

Are there any more amendments someone would like to put on the floor?  I don't think we should pass this if the bill isn't improved, somehow.  Would you have any ideas in mind, Governor?
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« Reply #5376 on: January 08, 2012, 04:02:47 PM »

Debate time has expired.  Members will now vote on all unfriendly amendments.  This will be a 24-hour vote.

I would like to amend the text of the bill to read the following:

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Should that amendment fail I would like to amend it to read the following:

The Northeast Omnibus Anti-Fascism Act

1.  The Bipartisan Safe Sex Education Act is amended to allow students to voluntarily withdraw from sex education, or at the request of their parents.

2.  The Northeastern Green Jobs Act is hereby repealed.

3.  The Northeastern Home Ownership Protection Act of 2009 is hereby repealed.

4.  The Sustainable Forestry Act is hereby repealed.

5.  The second amendment to the Northeast Gun Safety Act is hereby repealed.

6.  Sections 2 and 3 of the Practical Labor Policy Redux are hereby repealed.

7.  The Combat HIV/AIDS Act of 2010 is hereby repealed.  Any existing needle exchanges will be provided with $100,000 to continue operation as nonprofit organizations.

8.  The Prisoner Diet Reform Act is hereby repealed.

Should that amendment fail I would like to amend it to read the following:

The Self-Ownership Act (Or, the If You Are Pro-Choice and You Oppose This Then You Are a Hypocrite Act)

1. All persons are defined as the sole owners of their bodily organs.
2. Any non-minor person who has not been deemed mentally incompetent by a judge shall be allowed to sell their non-essential organs (such as the kidneys, skin, and spleen) to others.
3. Any organ removal surgery must be performed under standard levels of anesthesia and cleanliness by a licensed surgeon.
4. The surgeon must inform the donor of the potential risks of organ removal surgery.
5. All donors must be blood-tested for diseases transmittable through organ donation surgery.
6. A surgeon may, at his or her own discretion, declare a person mentally incompetent for the purposes of selling his or her bodily organs.
7. Unlawfully coercing a person to sell his or her bodily organs shall be a felony punishable by not less than 60 months in prison and/or a fine of not less than $50,000.  Attempting to unlawfully coerce a person to sell his or her bodily organs shall be a felony punishable by not less than 30 months in prison and/or a fine of not less than $25,000.
8. Persons with valid organ donor cards shall be eligible for a $500 yearly tax credit.

Should that amendment fail I would like to amend it to read the following:

The Public Safety Act of 2012

1. Any seller of firearms may refuse a sale to any buyer for any reason.
2. Any laws preventing the preceding clause from taking effect are hereby amended to allow it to do so.

Should that amendment fail I would like to amend it to read the following:

The Un-Stealing Bill

All unimproved regional lands shall be immediately transferred to the original Indian tribes indigenous to said lands.

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« Reply #5377 on: January 08, 2012, 04:03:36 PM »

Nay on all amendments proposed by Wormyguy; aye on Cincinnatus' amendment.
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« Reply #5378 on: January 08, 2012, 04:14:57 PM »

Aye on all my amendments, abstain on Cincinnatus's.
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« Reply #5379 on: January 08, 2012, 06:49:18 PM »

Abstain on all.
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« Reply #5380 on: January 08, 2012, 09:24:30 PM »

Nay on all amendments proposed by Wormyguy; aye on Cincinnatus' amendment.
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« Reply #5381 on: January 08, 2012, 09:31:05 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2012, 12:17:29 AM by Northeast Speaker Scott »

All members have voted. (Representative RFK is no longer a member of this body, per his automatic expulsion.)  All amendments are not adopted (fail 1-2-1), except for Cincinnatus' amendment, which passes with two ayes, zero nays, and two abstentions.

Members will now cast their votes on passage of the legislation.  This will be a 24-hour vote.

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« Reply #5382 on: January 08, 2012, 09:35:08 PM »

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« Reply #5383 on: January 08, 2012, 10:48:51 PM »

Mr. Speaker, the final text should look like this..

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« Reply #5384 on: January 08, 2012, 10:59:33 PM »

Amendment votes don't count toward expulsion, IIRC.
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« Reply #5385 on: January 08, 2012, 11:01:07 PM »

Amendment votes don't count toward expulsion, IIRC.

It didn't.  He missed 3 votes on legislation.
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« Reply #5386 on: January 08, 2012, 11:01:40 PM »

Amendment votes don't count toward expulsion, IIRC.

It didn't.  He missed 3 votes on legislation.

Well that sucks.
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« Reply #5387 on: January 08, 2012, 11:02:36 PM »


Yes it does.  It's unfortunate we continuously elect inactive Representatives.
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« Reply #5388 on: January 08, 2012, 11:27:44 PM »

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« Reply #5389 on: January 09, 2012, 12:18:14 AM »

Mr. Speaker, the final text should look like this..

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Fixed.  I misinterpreted your amendment.
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« Reply #5390 on: January 09, 2012, 05:42:44 PM »

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« Reply #5391 on: January 09, 2012, 09:53:39 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2012, 09:59:18 PM by Northeast Speaker Scott »

Voting time has expired.  The ayes are one, nays are one, abstentions are one, and non-voting members are one.  The vote is tied.

The Assembly will now consider the legislation introduced by the gentleman from Connecticut.  Debate will be for 48 hours.

Amendment to the SOAP Act - Protest and Analysis Thread Act

Section 1 of the Standing Order on Assembly Procedure Act is hereby amended.

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« Reply #5392 on: January 09, 2012, 10:00:50 PM »

The concept of the bill is pretty self-explanatory.  I also feel that this would make a nice opportunity to make other changes to our SOAP, should any come up in the next two days.
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« Reply #5393 on: January 10, 2012, 12:47:25 AM »

I support this bill.
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« Reply #5394 on: January 10, 2012, 09:01:39 PM »


As do I.  My only problem is that this amendment doesn't provide a subsection.  I like to know how amendments will read into already passed legislation.  Is this to replace section 1 entirely (surely not), or is it meant to be a Section 1, subsection d) (Why under Proposed legislation section) ?

And to the question of more important SOAP changes, I think we should use this P & A thread to discuss needed changes, instead of add a bunch of amendments to this.  I'd rather work everything out with an open discussion in a newly created Analysis thread, than have to continuously amend the SOAP over and over via hindsight..
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« Reply #5395 on: January 10, 2012, 09:24:29 PM »

I am proposing the following amendment.  The bill shall read:

Amendment to the SOAP Act - Protest and Analysis Thread Act

The Standing Order on Assembly Procedure Act is hereby amended.

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The amendment is friendly.  The amendment is adopted.
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« Reply #5396 on: January 10, 2012, 09:26:50 PM »

Specify to put in the Elections board, if you think it will be more effective there (I do).
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« Reply #5397 on: January 10, 2012, 09:27:20 PM »


As do I.  My only problem is that this amendment doesn't provide a subsection.  I like to know how amendments will read into already passed legislation.  Is this to replace section 1 entirely (surely not), or is it meant to be a Section 1, subsection d) (Why under Proposed legislation section) ?

And to the question of more important SOAP changes, I think we should use this P & A thread to discuss needed changes, instead of add a bunch of amendments to this.  I'd rather work everything out with an open discussion in a newly created Analysis thread, than have to continuously amend the SOAP over and over via hindsight..

Eventually a new bill would have to be passed for all the SOAP changes we decide on to go into effect.
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« Reply #5398 on: January 10, 2012, 09:29:45 PM »

Specify to put in the Elections board, if you think it will be more effective there (I do).

Probably would, now that I think of it.

I propose the following amendment.

Amendment to the SOAP Act - Protest and Analysis Thread Act

The Standing Order on Assembly Procedure Act is hereby amended.

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The amendment is friendly.  The amendment is adopted.
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« Reply #5399 on: January 10, 2012, 09:33:49 PM »

Specify to put in the Elections board, if you think it will be more effective there (I do).

I'm inclined to agree with you on this, though I can now support this bill either way.  


As do I.  My only problem is that this amendment doesn't provide a subsection.  I like to know how amendments will read into already passed legislation.  Is this to replace section 1 entirely (surely not), or is it meant to be a Section 1, subsection d) (Why under Proposed legislation section) ?

And to the question of more important SOAP changes, I think we should use this P & A thread to discuss needed changes, instead of add a bunch of amendments to this.  I'd rather work everything out with an open discussion in a newly created Analysis thread, than have to continuously amend the SOAP over and over via hindsight..

Eventually a new bill would have to be passed for all the SOAP changes we decide on to go into effect.

Yes.. but we should initiate our new thread with a meaningful discussion.  Hopefully we can get more interest in this important manner that goes beyond the three of us.
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