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« Reply #500 on: October 26, 2009, 11:55:47 PM »
« edited: October 26, 2009, 11:59:24 PM by Montag »

The Lt. Gov is supposed to be the person who puts passed legislation up on the Wiki.

wiki is in horrible condition

Conor started putting stuff on the Wiki, but I think he just gave up.  I don't think we've had an LG work on the Wiki since then, and that was 2008.

Indeed that is correct Moderate, it was simply too much to do.

As for the latest amendment, this Representative is highly supportive of it. Although its not what Representative Antonio originally intended, it is, in my opinion a much more realistic approach to the issue of seats this grand Assembly shall have in accordance to the Northeast's voters. Motion to vote Mr. Speaker.
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« Reply #501 on: October 27, 2009, 12:08:07 AM »

Indeed that is correct Moderate, it was simply too much to do.

As for the latest amendment, this Representative is highly supportive of it. Although its not what Representative Antonio originally intended, it is, in my opinion a much more realistic approach to the issue of seats this grand Assembly shall have in accordance to the Northeast's voters. Motion to vote Mr. Speaker.

Let's see if Antonio V will take this proposal as friendly first:
1. Article V Section vii) of the New Northeast Constitution is hereby repealed. Its content shall be replaced by the following :
2. Six Reps shall be elected, unless the Assembly shall provide otherwise by Law.


If so, I'll table my unfriendly amendment to set the Assembly at 5 members, which should allow us to proceed directly to a vote on the proposal.

Note that since this is a Constitutional Amendment, a two-thirds vote is necessary to pass instead of a mere majority of those who have voted (and I think we also need at least 5 of our 8 members to vote for it, as I read Article VII, Section i).
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« Reply #502 on: October 27, 2009, 12:45:57 AM »

If Antonio doesn't accept the amendment as friendly, we'll move to a vote on the amendment.
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« Reply #503 on: October 27, 2009, 01:12:04 AM »

If Antonio doesn't accept the amendment as friendly, we'll move to a vote on the amendment.

It's probably better to do one vote than two - so we're better off waiting a bit for Antonio V's response.  I'll send him a PM letting him know of the proposal, in case he just logs on briefly.
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« Reply #504 on: October 27, 2009, 01:36:26 AM »

If Antonio doesn't accept the amendment as friendly, we'll move to a vote on the amendment.

It's probably better to do one vote than two - so we're better off waiting a bit for Antonio V's response.  I'll send him a PM letting him know of the proposal, in case he just logs on briefly.

I agree, sorry - wasn't planning on starting the vote right now - was meaning that we'll wait and see what he says, and if he doesn't accept, we can move straight to a vote - as opposed to opening debate.
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« Reply #505 on: October 27, 2009, 03:10:40 AM »

Yeah, I accept. Smiley
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« Reply #506 on: October 27, 2009, 07:51:53 AM »


In that case, unless there are any objections, let's move to a final vote.

The question is:

That - The Bill as amended be agreed to.

All of that opinion say "Aye," to the contrary, "No." I think the Ayes have it. Is a division required? A division is required. Ring the bells.

The Ayes shall pass to the right of the chair, the Noes to my left.
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« Reply #507 on: October 27, 2009, 07:52:30 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #508 on: October 27, 2009, 08:10:31 AM »

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« Reply #509 on: October 27, 2009, 08:21:54 AM »

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« Reply #510 on: October 27, 2009, 12:54:36 PM »

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« Reply #511 on: October 27, 2009, 02:27:15 PM »

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« Reply #512 on: October 27, 2009, 09:49:02 PM »

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« Reply #513 on: October 27, 2009, 10:27:47 PM »

More representation is always good and the increased likelihood of ties places more importance and duties on the Lt. Gov, potentially making those races more important and competitive in the process. Also, if the Mideast can support 5, we can do 6 just fine. We will have more voters and candidates next time, I'm certain. We've already seen a renewed interest in the region, as witnessed by the return of Mr. Moderate, Rockefeller Republican, fezzyfestoon, and Dr. Cynic, all former members who made comebacks related to the creation of this great body.
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« Reply #514 on: October 27, 2009, 10:27:48 PM »

AYE!
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« Reply #515 on: October 27, 2009, 11:28:36 PM »

Love mod review. Always makes me laugh.
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« Reply #516 on: October 27, 2009, 11:41:01 PM »

What's the timetable on this vote?
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« Reply #517 on: October 28, 2009, 12:34:33 AM »


I think it's meant to stay open 24 hours to give everyone the chance to vote (but able to be closed earlier if everyone votes before then. Just waiting on Rocky and then we can finish it.
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« Reply #518 on: October 28, 2009, 01:22:43 AM »


I think it's meant to stay open 24 hours to give everyone the chance to vote (but able to be closed earlier if everyone votes before then. Just waiting on Rocky and then we can finish it.

Very well.
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« Reply #519 on: October 28, 2009, 07:03:24 AM »

There being seven votes in favour, none opposed, the question is resolved in the affirmative.



What's next on the agenda? The Chair is not sure which piece of legislation we're considering next.
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« Reply #520 on: October 28, 2009, 07:21:20 AM »
« Edited: October 28, 2009, 07:33:30 AM by Northeast Representative Antonio V »

Look at the Proposed Legislation Thread. Wink
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« Reply #521 on: October 28, 2009, 10:32:02 AM »
« Edited: October 28, 2009, 05:26:50 PM by Northeast Lt. Governor Barnes »

Fair Distribution of Public Money Act

1. Following provisions shall apply to any private enterprise that receives a public monetary help from the Northeast Region after this law will become effective.
2. Any enterprise in this situation shall not fire any employee for economical reasons.
3. Any enterprise in this situation shall distribute less than 10% of its added value to its shareholders by year.
4. In case when an enterprise does not respect provisions of articles 2) and 3), it shall be fined of an amount equal to the total amount of money that this enterprise received from the Northeast Region.

Sponsor: AntonioV

The Question is shall the Bill be considered?

The Ayes have it.

The Sponsor, Representative AntonioV, has the floor.
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« Reply #522 on: October 28, 2009, 12:41:34 PM »

Fellow Representatives,

The massive economic crisis we are comfronted to did many victims. Our whole financial system collapsed, several prosperous enterprises got ruined in few days, and the entire national economy was about to disappear. If this didn't happen, it's entirely thanks to a proud government, that managed to take the right decisions to avoid the crisis. Now we all know how necessary government intervention is, and how keynesianism can sav entire countries.
Now, I want to talk about those about whom we don't use to talk, even though they are the basis of our economy, our society and our nation : the people. Thousands of workers have been fired, partly because of the economic crisis, partly because of shareholders' cupidity. If this was understandable in the previous system, when our government believed like a dogma in the "laisser-faire" dogma. But now each of you knows how silly it was, and how we need the State to act in favor of a better functionin of the society. The government acted as it should for the enterprises. Now it must do the same for the people.
An enterprise that receives a public help shouldn't fire workers just to make more money, but should invest and make the entire society benefit to the wealth it creates. The collectivity helped them to survive, now they have to give something back to the collectivity. That's the purpose of this law.
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« Reply #523 on: October 28, 2009, 05:17:17 PM »

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« Reply #524 on: October 28, 2009, 06:21:54 PM »

I don't think we're currently giving money to private industry.  Even if we were, I don't like this law.  The reason any company would need help is because it's in trouble and needs to restructure.  Employee layoffs are part of the equation when businesses are failing.  Would you rather companies go out of business entirely?  Everyone loses their jobs then.
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