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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1150 on: December 31, 2009, 11:44:21 AM »

I suggest to strike word "class". There are no social classes recongized under Northeast nor Federal law. I suggest replace term with something like "social background".

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« Reply #1151 on: December 31, 2009, 11:45:26 AM »

I suggest to strike word "class". There are no social classes recongized under Northeast nor Federal law. I suggest replace term with something like "social background".
Nope.

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I'm not compromising.
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« Reply #1152 on: December 31, 2009, 11:49:15 AM »

I suggest to strike word "class". There are no social classes recongized under Northeast nor Federal law. I suggest replace term with something like "social background".
Nope.

What formidable compromising skills...

I'm not compromising.

Personal feelings affecting political actions, how classy Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1153 on: December 31, 2009, 11:54:36 AM »

No, political feelings affecting political actions. Social background was a stupid term that could mean anything. Damn I can't believe I have to deal with this crap for the whole session. I'd resign if I didn't think I'd be replaced with a moron.
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« Reply #1154 on: December 31, 2009, 11:59:56 AM »

Social background was a stupid term that could mean anything.

"Class" could mean anything as well.
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« Reply #1155 on: December 31, 2009, 12:02:11 PM »

Social background was a stupid term that could mean anything.

"Class" could mean anything as well.

I just suggest we should avoid such terms like "class" of whetever in oficial legislations.

There are no social classes under a law.
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« Reply #1156 on: December 31, 2009, 12:41:42 PM »


If my amendment is not friendly, I will not vote for this bill.
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« Reply #1157 on: December 31, 2009, 12:55:39 PM »

I ask for a vote on the three proposed Amendments.
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« Reply #1158 on: December 31, 2009, 12:57:47 PM »

I modify my proposition to strike "class" work at all
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« Reply #1159 on: December 31, 2009, 01:04:00 PM »

I modify my proposition to strike "class" work at all

"Socioeconomic status" is the going term. Perhaps someone would like to replace "class," an ambiguous term that only fosters class warfare, with the more common and more appropriate term.
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« Reply #1160 on: December 31, 2009, 01:07:02 PM »

"Class" is a perfectly appropriate term, and more succinct to boot.
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« Reply #1161 on: December 31, 2009, 01:18:18 PM »

"Class" is a perfectly appropriate term, and more succinct to boot.

There are no social classes under a regional nor federal law.
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« Reply #1162 on: December 31, 2009, 01:30:03 PM »

Agreed that "socioeconomic status" is preferred to "class."
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« Reply #1163 on: December 31, 2009, 01:31:31 PM »

"Class" is a perfectly appropriate term, and more succinct to boot.

Do you get tired of parroting whatever Hamilton says?
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« Reply #1164 on: December 31, 2009, 01:48:22 PM »

"Class" is a perfectly appropriate term, and more succinct to boot.

Do you get tired of parroting whatever Hamilton says?

When did Hamilton ever say "'Class' is a perfectly appropriate term, and more succinct to boot"?

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« Reply #1165 on: December 31, 2009, 02:32:05 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2010, 12:11:30 AM by cinyc »


As required under the SOAP, there will be a vote on all FOUR proposed unfriendly amendments (and any others), unless withdrawn, at the end of the debate period.  The debate period ends on Friday, January 1 at 8:30PM.  A vote on the amendments will take place then until 8:30PM January 2.  A vote on the bill, as amended (if any pass), will take place starting Saturday, January 2.

I agree on striking class - it's not defined by Atlasian or Northeast law.  
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« Reply #1166 on: December 31, 2009, 02:33:27 PM »

Agreed that "socioeconomic status" is preferred to "class."

Agreed with this.

I will not withdraw my amendment, and would like to second the motion made by Rep. Antonio.
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« Reply #1167 on: December 31, 2009, 03:20:45 PM »

Agreed that "socioeconomic status" is preferred to "class."

Agreed with this.

I will not withdraw my amendment, and would like to second the motion made by Rep. Antonio.

Proposed Bill is very needed, but my only concern is terminology. Socialeconomic status is fair term, because, I repeat, neither regional or federal law allows or recognize any "classes".

I second motion made by Rep. Antonio too. 
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« Reply #1168 on: January 01, 2010, 08:29:09 PM »



We are to vote on four amendments deemed unfriendly by the bill's sponsor, Rep. Hamilton.   This vote will remain open until 8:30PM on January 2, 2010, or all Representatives have voted.  Please specify you vote on each by Number and Sponsor, as provided in the form below.

Proposed Amendment 1 (Rep. Mr. Moderate):
1. The Northeast Government pledges to uphold the rights of all citizens regardless of race, gender, gender identity, class, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.
2. The Northeast Government will hereby refuse government contracts to any company or organization which is found to discriminate on the basis of race, gender, gender identity, class, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.
3. The Northeast Government, in hiring, and in representation, shall not discriminate on the basis of race, gender, gender identity, class, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.

Proposed Amendment 2 (Rep. Doctor Cynic):
1. The Northeast Government pledges to uphold the rights of all citizens regardless of race, gender, class, sexuality, size, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.
2. The Northeast Government will hereby refuse government contracts to any company or organization which is found to discriminate on the basis of race, gender, class, sexuality, size, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.
3. The Northeast Government, in hiring, and in representation, shall not discriminate on the basis of race, gender, class, sexuality, size, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.

Proposed Amendment 3 (Rep. Sewer Socialist):
1. The Northeast Government pledges to uphold the rights of all citizens regardless of race, gender, class, sexuality, ethnicity, smell, religion, and disability status.
2. The Northeast Government will hereby refuse government contracts to any company or organization which is found to discriminate on the basis of race, gender, class, sexuality, ethnicity, smell, religion, and disability status.
3. The Northeast Government, in hiring, and in representation, shall not discriminate on the basis of race, gender, class, sexuality, ethnicity, smell, religion, and disability status.

Proposed Amendment 4 (Rep. Kalwjet):
1. The Northeast Government pledges to uphold the rights of all citizens regardless of race, gender, class socioeconomic status, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.
2. The Northeast Government will hereby refuse government contracts to any company or organization which is found to discriminate on the basis of race, gender, class, socioeconomic status, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.
3. The Northeast Government, in hiring, and in representation, shall not discriminate on the basis of race, gender, class socioeconomic status, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.

Official Ballot
Amendment 1 (Rep. Mr. Moderate):
Amendment 2 (Rep. Doctor Cynic):
Amendment 3 (Rep. Sewer Socialist):
Amendment 4 (Rep. Kalwjet):
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« Reply #1169 on: January 01, 2010, 08:33:14 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #1170 on: January 01, 2010, 08:34:45 PM »

Official Ballot
Amendment 1 (Rep. Mr. Moderate): Nay
Amendment 2 (Rep. Doctor Cynic): Nay
Amendment 3 (Rep. Sewer Socialist): Nay
Amendment 4 (Rep. Kalwjet): Nay
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« Reply #1171 on: January 01, 2010, 08:51:09 PM »

Amendment 1 (Rep. Mr. Moderate: AYE
Amendment 2 (Rep. Doctor Cynic): AYE
Amendment 3 (Rep. Sewer Socialist): NAY
Amendment 4 (Rep. Kalwjet): AYE
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« Reply #1172 on: January 01, 2010, 09:11:29 PM »

Amendment 1 (Rep. Mr. Moderate): Nay
Amendment 2 (Rep. Doctor Cynic): Nay
Amendment 3 (Rep. Sewer Socialist): Nay
Amendment 4 (Rep. Kalwjet): Nay

I would have voted for Amendment 4 had it just struck class and not substituted socioeconomic status.   It's still too vague.
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« Reply #1173 on: January 01, 2010, 09:54:59 PM »

Official Ballot
Amendment 1 (Rep. Mr. Moderate): Aye
Amendment 2 (Rep. Doctor Cynic): Aye
Amendment 3 (Rep. Sewer Socialist): Aye
Amendment 4 (Rep. Kalwjet): Aye
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« Reply #1174 on: January 01, 2010, 10:26:26 PM »

I'm tabling this. That means it is removed from the floor.
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