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« Reply #1275 on: January 05, 2010, 04:26:29 PM »


Why should a college senior not be having sex with a high school sophomore?  Really?  You need reasons why?

My whole point is that under many juridsictions act of consent is 15 and that's seem perfectly fine (13 would be gross for example).
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« Reply #1276 on: January 05, 2010, 05:16:55 PM »

Rep. Sewer Socialist is to state whether he truly abstained, as evidenced by the quote from Rep. Mr. Moderate.

I abstained.

Fair enough. 

Please don't delete your votes - it makes it difficult to make sure I get an accurate count of older posts not on the current page. 

I was ready to call this a tie before I double-checked and saw Hamilton apparently deleted his vote.  Since I didn't check at exactly 2:50 PM, I have no way of knowing when he deleted his post. 

Hamilton has until 8:00PM tonight to justify his deletion (or withdraw the bill) - or I will declare the amendment passed and proceed to a final vote on the bill as amended.
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« Reply #1277 on: January 05, 2010, 05:23:11 PM »

Hamilton and Libertas have continued to flaunt the system and will now not be able to post at all. All of their posts will be deleted, whether it has to do with their elected offices or jobs because they continue to post when they are not allowed to.

Sewer is still allowed to take part here since he's not spamming this board still. If he continues not spamming like he has been I'll take him off Atlasia's troll list. Before that though I forgot for a second and deleted his newest post about abstaining.
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« Reply #1278 on: January 05, 2010, 05:59:58 PM »

Hamilton and Libertas have continued to flaunt the system and will now not be able to post at all. All of their posts will be deleted, whether it has to do with their elected offices or jobs because they continue to post when they are not allowed to.

Sewer is still allowed to take part here since he's not spamming this board still. If he continues not spamming like he has been I'll take him off Atlasia's troll list. Before that though I forgot for a second and deleted his newest post about abstaining.

Deleting posts in this thread is patently unfair to this Assembly and the citizens of the Northeast who elected those two people. 

Hearing what happened, I now declare the vote on the amendment a 3-3 TIE to be broken by the Lt. Governor.  I will inform Lt. Governor Smid that his vote is needed.
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« Reply #1279 on: January 05, 2010, 06:01:56 PM »

Hamilton and Libertas have continued to flaunt the system and will now not be able to post at all. All of their posts will be deleted, whether it has to do with their elected offices or jobs because they continue to post when they are not allowed to.

Sewer is still allowed to take part here since he's not spamming this board still. If he continues not spamming like he has been I'll take him off Atlasia's troll list. Before that though I forgot for a second and deleted his newest post about abstaining.

Deleting posts in this thread is patently unfair to this Assembly and the citizens of the Northeast who elected those two people. 

Hearing what happened, I now declare the vote on the amendment a 3-3 TIE to be broken by the Lt. Governor.  I will inform Lt. Governor Smid that his vote is needed.

As a member of Atlasia I don't like it either but as a Mod I'm stopping their trolling which they won't do. Hopfully they'll both be banned soon anyways with the new system and then the Northeast can get respectable citizens in office. Until then they'll continue to spam and I'll continue to delete their posts.
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« Reply #1280 on: January 05, 2010, 06:03:12 PM »

Hamilton and Libertas have continued to flaunt the system and will now not be able to post at all. All of their posts will be deleted, whether it has to do with their elected offices or jobs because they continue to post when they are not allowed to.

Sewer is still allowed to take part here since he's not spamming this board still. If he continues not spamming like he has been I'll take him off Atlasia's troll list. Before that though I forgot for a second and deleted his newest post about abstaining.

Deleting posts in this thread is patently unfair to this Assembly and the citizens of the Northeast who elected those two people. 

Hearing what happened, I now declare the vote on the amendment a 3-3 TIE to be broken by the Lt. Governor.  I will inform Lt. Governor Smid that his vote is needed.

How about the Assembly expel the members that bring such shame to the body?
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« Reply #1281 on: January 05, 2010, 06:22:52 PM »

Hamilton and Libertas have continued to flaunt the system and will now not be able to post at all. All of their posts will be deleted, whether it has to do with their elected offices or jobs because they continue to post when they are not allowed to.

Sewer is still allowed to take part here since he's not spamming this board still. If he continues not spamming like he has been I'll take him off Atlasia's troll list. Before that though I forgot for a second and deleted his newest post about abstaining.

Deleting posts in this thread is patently unfair to this Assembly and the citizens of the Northeast who elected those two people. 

Hearing what happened, I now declare the vote on the amendment a 3-3 TIE to be broken by the Lt. Governor.  I will inform Lt. Governor Smid that his vote is needed.

How about the Assembly expel the members that bring such shame to the body?

We have no express power to do so.  The Joe Wilson Act takes any power we may have had in that area away from us.
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« Reply #1282 on: January 05, 2010, 06:24:51 PM »

Hamilton and Libertas have continued to flaunt the system and will now not be able to post at all. All of their posts will be deleted, whether it has to do with their elected offices or jobs because they continue to post when they are not allowed to.

Sewer is still allowed to take part here since he's not spamming this board still. If he continues not spamming like he has been I'll take him off Atlasia's troll list. Before that though I forgot for a second and deleted his newest post about abstaining.

Deleting posts in this thread is patently unfair to this Assembly and the citizens of the Northeast who elected those two people. 

Hearing what happened, I now declare the vote on the amendment a 3-3 TIE to be broken by the Lt. Governor.  I will inform Lt. Governor Smid that his vote is needed.

How about the Assembly expel the members that bring such shame to the body?

We have no express power to do so.  The Joe Wilson Act takes any power we may have had in that area away from us.

A verdict on the Joe Wilson Act is coming soon.
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« Reply #1283 on: January 05, 2010, 06:27:44 PM »

We have no express power to do so.  The Joe Wilson Act takes any power we may have had in that area away from us.

Ok, Mr. Speaker, to clarify:

So they cannot post, but cannot be really removed from office too?

That means constant absentions?

With one vacancy, which is to fill, and permanently absent 2 Representatives, who are technically in office, we have 5 members to vote?
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« Reply #1284 on: January 05, 2010, 06:33:38 PM »

We have no express power to do so.  The Joe Wilson Act takes any power we may have had in that area away from us.

Ok, Mr. Speaker, to clarify:

So they cannot post, but cannot be really removed from office too?

That means constant absentions?

With one vacancy, which is to fill, and permanently absent 2 Representatives, who are technically in office, we have 5 members to vote?

Well, I guess they could be removed automatically if they do not vote on 3 consecutive bills.  But both Libertas and Hamilton voted on the matter currently on the floor (as did Sewer Socialist).  I SAW Hamilton's Nay vote the amendment before it was erroneously deleted. 

Libertas and Hamilton are eligible to vote if they can vote.  If they do not vote, they will be treated as abstaining.  That should only matter if we're voting on a constitutional amendment.  Otherwise, their non-votes shouldn't matter.

As per past practice, none of Hamilton on Libertas' bills will be brought to the floor while they are under suspension.
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« Reply #1285 on: January 05, 2010, 06:42:41 PM »

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have a question for Rep. Antonio V regarding Anti-Discriminatory Act he reintroduced with former Rep. Doctor Cynic as co-sponsor. With Doctor Cynic departure, can I be allowed to act as co-sponson?
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« Reply #1286 on: January 05, 2010, 07:14:53 PM »

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have a question for Rep. Antonio V regarding Anti-Discriminatory Act he reintroduced with former Rep. Doctor Cynic as co-sponsor. With Doctor Cynic departure, can I be allowed to act as co-sponson?

Co-sponsors are largely irrelevant.  They don't have any say in whether a bill is amended - that job falls to the person who placed the bill in the queue, not the co-sponsor.

BTW - If anyone wants to sponsor any bills sponsored by Former Rep. Doctor Cynic, they should do so by reposting the bill in the Proposed Legislation thread.
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« Reply #1287 on: January 05, 2010, 09:42:23 PM »

We have no express power to do so.  The Joe Wilson Act takes any power we may have had in that area away from us.

Ok, Mr. Speaker, to clarify:

So they cannot post, but cannot be really removed from office too?

That means constant absentions?

With one vacancy, which is to fill, and permanently absent 2 Representatives, who are technically in office, we have 5 members to vote?

Well, I guess they could be removed automatically if they do not vote on 3 consecutive bills.  But both Libertas and Hamilton voted on the matter currently on the floor (as did Sewer Socialist).  I SAW Hamilton's Nay vote the amendment before it was erroneously deleted. 

Libertas and Hamilton are eligible to vote if they can vote.  If they do not vote, they will be treated as abstaining.  That should only matter if we're voting on a constitutional amendment.  Otherwise, their non-votes shouldn't matter.

As per past practice, none of Hamilton on Libertas' bills will be brought to the floor while they are under suspension.

I dont know if it helps, but I too saw Hamiltons vote, as well as Sewers abstain.
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« Reply #1288 on: January 06, 2010, 07:14:18 AM »

I dont know if it helps, but I too saw Hamiltons vote, as well as Sewers abstain.

We all saw
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« Reply #1289 on: January 06, 2010, 07:56:54 AM »

So, what are we doing with future Hamilton votes ? Can we count his votes while they have to be deleted ?
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« Reply #1290 on: January 06, 2010, 02:56:26 PM »

So, what are we doing with future Hamilton votes ? Can we count his votes while they have to be deleted ?

If they are cast and remain on the board, I will count them.   If not, I won't.   If I see them, I will quote them in a reply to try to preserve them.  But the bottom line is that the moderators shouldn't be deleting votes in the first place.  It's another reason why we need our own sub-board - so that we can make sure votes don't get deleted.

We're still waiting on the Lt. Governor to break the tie.  I know Smid may take a bit of time to respond since he's been away.  I've PMed him and expect a response soon.
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« Reply #1291 on: January 07, 2010, 05:13:15 AM »

My apologies for the delay in casting a deciding ballot.

As I read the Bill, the Age of Consent will be adjusted to 16, so long as the other consenting person is younger than the age of 21.

I cast a ballot in favour of this Bill.
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« Reply #1292 on: January 07, 2010, 05:26:14 AM »

My apologies for the delay in casting a deciding ballot.

As I read the Bill, the Age of Consent will be adjusted to 16, so long as the other consenting person is younger than the age of 21.

I cast a ballot in favour of this Bill.

You mean in favor of the Amendment I made on this bill ?
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« Reply #1293 on: January 07, 2010, 06:33:24 AM »

I'm not happy with the age of consent remaining ridicolous 16, but I'm not going to sink the entire bill.

Aye.
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« Reply #1294 on: January 07, 2010, 06:50:52 AM »

I'm not happy with the age of consent remaining ridicolous 16, but I'm not going to sink the entire bill.

Aye.

We're not yet voting on the bill.
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« Reply #1295 on: January 07, 2010, 07:31:34 AM »

I'm not happy with the age of consent remaining ridicolous 16, but I'm not going to sink the entire bill.

Aye.

We're not yet voting on the bill.

Ok, sorry for that
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« Reply #1296 on: January 07, 2010, 02:47:00 PM »


We are now.



The vote is for final passage of the Pornography and Age of Consent Act of 2010, as amended:

Pornography and Age of Consent Act of 2010

An act to liberalise laws restricting sexual activity and to amend the Pornography and Age of Consent Act of 2005

1.   In accordance with the federal Bow Chicka Bow Wow Act of 2009, All individuals 14 years of age or older shall have the right to buy, possess, and view pornography depicting only persons of 18 years of age or older.

2.   All those persons of 16 years of age or older not incarcerated for crimes shall have the right to give consent to engage in sexual acts with other persons who are less than 5 years older.

3.   Any person of 21 years of age or older who engages in a sexual act with a person of 16 years of age or younger is guilty of statutory rape.

This vote will remain open until the earlier of 2:50PM Eastern on Friday, January 8, 2010, or when all Northeast Representatives have voted.  

Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain - and please don't delete your vote once cast.
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« Reply #1297 on: January 07, 2010, 02:48:30 PM »

Saved - in case deleted by the mods (Hamilton's vote).

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« Reply #1298 on: January 07, 2010, 02:55:13 PM »

Once again, while I'm not pleased with retaining ridicolous 15 as age of concent, I jhave no other choice but to support the bill.

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« Reply #1299 on: January 07, 2010, 03:14:51 PM »

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