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« Reply #1300 on: January 07, 2010, 03:53:28 PM »

Saved, in case it is deleted by the mods (Libertas' vote):

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« Reply #1301 on: January 07, 2010, 04:03:22 PM »

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« Reply #1302 on: January 07, 2010, 04:06:55 PM »

Abstain.
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« Reply #1303 on: January 07, 2010, 04:14:49 PM »

Nay

I prefer this to the initial bill, but I worry that we're muddying up the law with multiple provisions stating almost the same thing.
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« Reply #1304 on: January 07, 2010, 05:21:11 PM »

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« Reply #1305 on: January 07, 2010, 05:40:03 PM »



With 6 ayes, 1 nay and 1 expressed abstention, the Pornography and Age of Consent Act of 2010 passes and will be presented to the Governor for his signature or veto.

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Reps. Hamilton and Libertas' bills will be temporarily tabled until they inform the Assembly that they are no longer under administrative suspension and able to actively debate amendments.  Therefore, the next piece of legislation on the floor is:

Northeast Economic Recovery Stimulus Act

The 100 billion dollars received by the Northeast Region from the Federal Government of Atlasia in accordance to Section 4 a) of the 2009 Atlasian Relief and Recovery Act shall be employed as follows.

Section 1 : Regional Fund for Economic Recovery

1. The Regional Fund for Economic Recovery (RFER) is hereby established.
2. The RFER shall receive $20 billion dollars for its functioning.
3. The RFER shall have the authority to provide loans to any business expressly asking for which is in a situation close to bankruptcy. Said loans shall be considered as a monetary help coming from the Northeast Region.
4. The RFER shall be free to negotiate interest rates with businesses.
5. The RFER shall be effective at January 1st, 2010, and shall be dismissed at December 31st, 2014, unless the Northeast Legislative Assembly provides otherwise by a majority vote.

Section 2 : Help to green jobs

1. The Northeast Region shall invest $5 billions in renewable energy.
2. Businesses in the economic sector of renewable energy shall receive a monetary help from the Northeast Region, whose total amount shall be $5 billions. The amount of money received shall be proportional to the number of employees of each business.

Section 3 : Help to the lower classes

1. $10 billions shall serve to establish the Economic Recovery Allocation (ERA). The ERA shall be granted to any household of the first and second tax brackets, as defined by the Fiscal Responsibility Act. Its amount shall be the same for any household.
2. $10 billions shall be dealt at December 31, 2010, between every business having employed at least 10 individuals who had been unemployed for more than one year after January 1, 2010.

Section 4 : Budget severity

The remaining $50 billions shall be integrated to the budget of the Northeast Region and used for normal functioning expenses.

Sponsor: Rep. Antonio V

The question is whether the Bill should be considered?

The ayes have it.

Debate on this bill will continue until at least 5:40PM Eastern on Saturday, January 9, 2010, unless the debate period is extended or shortened in accordance with the SOAP.

The Sponsor, Representative Antonio V, has the floor.
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« Reply #1306 on: January 07, 2010, 05:46:54 PM »


Welcome to the Northeast Assembly!
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« Reply #1307 on: January 07, 2010, 06:13:00 PM »


Meaning what exactly?  Please specify a date and time when you'd like the debate to end.
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« Reply #1308 on: January 08, 2010, 02:19:52 AM »


There's a motion on the floor to suspend Section 3(a) of the SOAP extend debate until  5:40PM Eastern on Tuesday, January 12, 2010.  

All those in favor shall say Aye, those opposed Nay, those who wish to abstain, Abstain.

This vote shall be held open until the earlier of 2:20AM Eastern on Saturday, January 9, 2010, or when all Northeast Representatives shall have voted.

Debate on the bill on the floor is allowed - and encouraged - during the vote on the motion.
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« Reply #1309 on: January 08, 2010, 02:53:36 AM »

I would like to know why does Rep. Hamilton wish to extend the debate period. Anyways, since it's an important bill that neeeds discussions about precise issues. So I vote Aye.
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« Reply #1310 on: January 08, 2010, 03:24:44 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #1311 on: January 08, 2010, 09:24:01 AM »

I would like to know why does Rep. Hamilton wish to extend the debate period. Anyways, since it's an important bill that neeeds discussions about precise issues. So I vote Aye.

This bill is is a big task that we need to get perfect.

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« Reply #1312 on: January 08, 2010, 09:31:25 AM »

Nay to a motion on the floor to suspend
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« Reply #1313 on: January 08, 2010, 10:12:28 AM »

I would like to know why does Rep. Hamilton wish to extend the debate period. Anyways, since it's an important bill that neeeds discussions about precise issues. So I vote Aye.

This bill is is a big task that we need to get perfect.

I tend to agree with that, so it's fine.
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« Reply #1314 on: January 08, 2010, 11:58:23 AM »

Aye.



I'd like to offer a (hopefully friendly) amendment to strike all instances of billions and replace them with billion to correct a grammatical issue.
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« Reply #1315 on: January 08, 2010, 02:20:28 PM »

Aye, I guess, if the sponsor wants it.
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« Reply #1316 on: January 08, 2010, 02:22:55 PM »

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« Reply #1317 on: January 08, 2010, 10:57:17 PM »


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By a vote of 6-2, including Hamilton's now-deleted vote,  the motion to extend debate until 5:40PM Eastern on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 passes.

Antonio V - you still have the floor to explain your bill.
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« Reply #1318 on: January 09, 2010, 06:06:11 AM »

Fellow Representatives,

Time is up to put an end to the economic crisis. More than one year ago, the collapse of our financial system brutally showed us how much our ideological dogma was out of touch with the real world. While many Atlasian politician were self-assured that State wasn't the solution, but the problem, they are now able to see what "autoregulation of the market" leads to : behaviours hurting common sense, rising inequalities, and finally the economic krach. Only the strong action of the Atlasian State, which a massive and rapid action in favor of failing businesses, prevented the catastophe. So, it's finally time to renounce to the ideological dogma of neoliberalism, and adopt a pragmatic attitude on the reality of our economic situation.

We saved our economy from collapse : now it's time to engage structural reforms of our economy, in order to favor a rapid return to a strong and fairly shared economic growth. That's the purpose of this bill.

This bill pursues four main goals, detailed in each section.
First of all, a continuous help to businesses facing economic difficulties, thanks to thr Regional Fund for Economic recovery. Saving failing businesses is absolutely necessary to avoid a new recession. Plus, thanks to the Fair Distribution of Public Money Act, it will also contribute to save jobs.
Secondly, the second section aims to favor economic sectors favoring the development of ecologic methods of production, turning our economic growth more and more toward activities respecting the environment.
Also, we should not forget that an economy doesn't work without its lower classes. The loss of buying power these persons are suffering from strongly penalizes our economy. So, a priority of our region should be to help them from being reduced to poverty, and supply them the resources necessary to consume. To reach this goal, two means will be employed : firstly, the Economic Recovery Allocation, guaranteed to any low-income household, will give them a help to improve their economic situation. Then, the subvention to businesses employing long-time unemployed persons will generate a massive increase in these people's income, as well as favoring the creation of wealth.
As the Atlasian Relief and Recovery Act advices us, a priority will be given to budget severity : that's why half of the money we received from the federal Government will be spared, allowing our region to keep a balanced budget and avoid indebtedness.

Fellow Representatives, this is not an ideological bill. It's, to the contrary, an equilibrated and pragmatic bill that aims to help our region to get out of depression and to build a stronger regional economy, based on budget balance, strong businesses, buying power, and green activities. That's why I encourage all of you to propose Amendments to improve this bill. That's also why the failure of this bill will be a catastrophe for our region. We received $100 bilions from the federal Government since several month. Now we need a bill defining how we will use them, for the good of the Northeast and its economy.
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« Reply #1319 on: January 11, 2010, 06:38:09 AM »

Seems that representatives care absolutely nothing of an essential bill that will decide the future of our economy. It's really comfroting.
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« Reply #1320 on: January 11, 2010, 08:42:54 AM »

Seems that representatives care absolutely nothing of an essential bill that will decide the future of our economy. It's really comfroting.

Your adress leave me with nothing to add.
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« Reply #1321 on: January 11, 2010, 10:03:02 AM »

Seems that representatives care absolutely nothing of an essential bill that will decide the future of our economy. It's really comfroting.

Your adress leave me with nothing to add.

I just hope that those who don't even bother to express concerns won't vote nay on the final vote...
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« Reply #1322 on: January 11, 2010, 10:08:16 AM »

Note from your Senator: The Regional and Local Fiscal Relief Act gives $7 billion to the Northeast.

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Regional_%26_Local_Fiscal_Relief_Act
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« Reply #1323 on: January 11, 2010, 10:23:36 AM »

Sorry for the mistake. I hereby amend the bill as follows :


Northeast Economic Recovery Stimulus Act

The 7 billion dollars received by the Northeast Region from the Federal Government of Atlasia in accordance to Section 4 a) of the 2009 Atlasian Relief and Recovery Act, and the Regional and Local Fiscal Relief Act shall be employed as follows.

Section 1 : Regional Fund for Economic Recovery

1. The Regional Fund for Economic Recovery (RFER) is hereby established.
2. The RFER shall receive $1.5 billion dollars for its functioning.
3. The RFER shall have the authority to provide loans to any business expressly asking for which is in a situation close to bankruptcy. Said loans shall be considered as a monetary help coming from the Northeast Region.
4. The RFER shall be free to negotiate interest rates with businesses.
5. The RFER shall be effective at January 1st, 2010, and shall be dismissed at December 31st, 2014, unless the Northeast Legislative Assembly provides otherwise by a majority vote.

Section 2 : Help to green jobs

1. The Northeast Region shall invest $500 millions in renewable energy.
2. Businesses in the economic sector of renewable energy shall receive a monetary help from the Northeast Region, whose total amount shall be $500 millions. The amount of money received shall be proportional to the number of employees of each business.

Section 3 : Help to the lower classes

1. $1 billion shall serve to establish the Economic Recovery Allocation (ERA). The ERA shall be granted to any household of the first and second tax brackets, as defined by the Fiscal Responsibility Act. Its amount shall be the same for any household.
2. $500 millions shall be dealt at December 31, 2010, between every business having employed at least 10 individuals who had been unemployed for more than one year after January 1, 2010.

Section 4 : Budget severity

The remaining $3 billions shall be integrated to the budget of the Northeast Region and used for normal functioning expenses.
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« Reply #1324 on: January 11, 2010, 05:40:45 PM »

Sorry I haven't had a chance to respond earlier - I've been busy.

My main concern with this bill is that between the Economic Tax Recovery Act and Northeastern Home Ownership Protection Act, we've already spent the meager stimulus funds we've received from the Atlasian federal government.  We should have received more, but were allocated less due to changes to the original bill made by our regional senator - who should have been looking out for the interests of the Northeast.

The Northeast economy is getting better.  If anything, we should be looking at ways to balance our budget, not increase the deficit.
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