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« Reply #2275 on: April 02, 2010, 03:09:02 PM »

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« Reply #2276 on: April 02, 2010, 03:48:48 PM »
« Edited: April 05, 2010, 07:15:22 PM by cinyc »



By a vote of 9-1, the bill is placed on the floor:

Northeastern Emergency Militia Act

Section I
1). In times of emergency, the Northeastern Governor has the right to create and use a volunteer force of militiamen to enforce the laws and regulations of the Northeast governments. The Northeastern Governor is the sole person with this sort of power except in the special circumstance specified in Section II.

2). The Northeastern Assembly can order the militia to stand down if three quarters of the Northeastern Assembly votes to do so.

Section II
1). If the Northeastern Governorship is vacant, the Lieutenant Governor shall be able to command to create and use the volunteer force upon his ascendency to the Governorship.

Section III
1). After the Governor deems the situation appropriate, or the Northeastern Assembly votes to do so with a three-fourths majority, the militia is to stand down and disperse.

2). Failure to comply with dispersing upon orders by the Assembly or the Governor will be met with judicial action taken by the Northeastern Government against the violators.

3). The Militia may not be maintained unless a state of emergency has been declared by the Northeastern Governor.

Section IV
1). All Northeasterners who serve in the Volunteer Militia will be compensated for their service to the Northeast Region with an amount which will be set by the Governor.

2). Only Northeastern Citizens are eligible for service in the deputized volunteer militia.

Sponsor: Rep. Giovanni

The Sponsor, Representative Giovanni, has the floor.
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« Reply #2277 on: April 02, 2010, 05:22:00 PM »

I will be more specific an be nay on the Amendment on the Freedom to Drive Act, but Aye for the Act. Aye on the Northeast Emergency Militia Act though.
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« Reply #2278 on: April 02, 2010, 06:21:56 PM »

Fellow Reps,

Due to the ongoing strike, our streets are engulfed in lawless anarchy. Although no major outbreaks of violence have occurred fortunately, we cannot stand by and hold our fingers for good luck while Northeast citizens remain unprotected.

The Governor is incapable of calling out the Guard do to Federal law. This bill will give Governor Morgan the authority to put a volunteer police force into action that will keep peace on the streets until the police come back into service.

AG Barnes has graciously informed us that the Atlasian Government will not take legal action as long as the militia is disbanded after the crisis. Due to several restrictions I have placed in the bill, the Atlasian Government need not be worried about that. I have absolutely no worries that Governor Morgan, who supports this bill, will act responsibly, and that this power will only be used responsibly.

Due to the ongoing crisis, I encourage the Assembly to quickly pass this bill so the Governor can sign it, and keep the Northeastern Citizens safe.
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« Reply #2279 on: April 03, 2010, 12:01:51 AM »



By a vote of 1-7, the proposed amendment to the Freedom to Drive Act fails.

We will now vote on final passage of the bill without the proposed amendment:

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This vote shall remain open until 1:00AM Eastern on Monday, April 5, 2010, unless all representatives shall have voted sooner.

Debate on the Northeast Emergency Militia Act shall continue during the vote.
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« Reply #2280 on: April 03, 2010, 12:05:22 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #2281 on: April 03, 2010, 04:46:16 AM »

Aye, and I will not be here the rest of the day, and about half of tomorrow.
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« Reply #2282 on: April 03, 2010, 07:38:06 AM »

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« Reply #2283 on: April 03, 2010, 10:05:45 AM »

Nice to see "libertarians" voting for authoritarian provision Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2284 on: April 03, 2010, 10:28:44 AM »

Nice to see "libertarians" voting for authoritarian provision Roll Eyes

You resigned.....go away Tongue
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« Reply #2285 on: April 03, 2010, 11:51:24 AM »

Present and abstaining. 
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« Reply #2286 on: April 03, 2010, 11:52:49 AM »

Nice to see "libertarians" voting for authoritarian provision Roll Eyes

You resigned.....go away Tongue

What? I'm watching you from balcony Tongue
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« Reply #2287 on: April 03, 2010, 12:20:38 PM »

What a completely senseless bill. Repealing or suspending gas taxes doesn't give any meaningful relief and it's a completely temporary measure that only depletes funds you could've used elsewhere, while at the same time encouraging gas consumption which is not something you guys should be doing. What in heaven's name justifies this atrocity?
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« Reply #2288 on: April 03, 2010, 12:49:20 PM »

What a completely senseless bill. Repealing or suspending gas taxes doesn't give any meaningful relief and it's a completely temporary measure that only depletes funds you could've used elsewhere, while at the same time encouraging gas consumption which is not something you guys should be doing. What in heaven's name justifies this atrocity?

The increasing price of gasoline is putting a burden on our citizens.  And this legislature isn't chock full of "progressives" who think driving is a bad thing.
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« Reply #2289 on: April 03, 2010, 12:56:20 PM »
« Edited: April 03, 2010, 12:58:45 PM by A.J. Marokai Blue »

What a completely senseless bill. Repealing or suspending gas taxes doesn't give any meaningful relief and it's a completely temporary measure that only depletes funds you could've used elsewhere, while at the same time encouraging gas consumption which is not something you guys should be doing. What in heaven's name justifies this atrocity?

The increasing price of gasoline is putting a burden on our citizens.  And this legislature isn't chock full of "progressives" who think driving is a bad thing.

It doesn't take a progressive to say encouraging gasoline consumption is a silly idea. It's objectively harmful to the environment and encourages unnecessary use of fuel. Gas taxes are higher in Atlasia than the United States, but this region can't do anything to the federal gas tax, you're stuck tinkering with your own. Which is even less effective and a waste of time. What are you doing, tinkering with a few cents here or there? This is a gimmick that doesn't save anyone any serious amount of money and subtly encourages gasoline usage.

You're depleting resources that could be used for alot of other things to instead waste it on a gimmicky tax suspension that doesn't save anyone serious amounts of money and only encourages unnecessary harm to the environment.

This legislature is certainly full of something.
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« Reply #2290 on: April 03, 2010, 01:05:50 PM »

What a completely senseless bill. Repealing or suspending gas taxes doesn't give any meaningful relief and it's a completely temporary measure that only depletes funds you could've used elsewhere, while at the same time encouraging gas consumption which is not something you guys should be doing. What in heaven's name justifies this atrocity?

The increasing price of gasoline is putting a burden on our citizens.  And this legislature isn't chock full of "progressives" who think driving is a bad thing.

It doesn't take a progressive to say encouraging gasoline consumption is a silly idea. It's objectively harmful to the environment and encourages unnecessary use of fuel. Gas taxes are higher in Atlasia than the United States, but this region can't do anything to the federal gas tax, you're stuck tinkering with your own. Which is even less effective and a waste of time. What are you doing, tinkering with a few cents here or there? This is a gimmick that doesn't save anyone any serious amount of money and subtly encourages gasoline usage.

You're depleting resources that could be used for alot of other things to instead waste it on a gimmicky tax suspension that doesn't save anyone serious amounts of money and only encourages unnecessary harm to the environment.

This legislature is certainly full of something.

Pennies add up.  And it is the Atlasian government that is distorting the free market by imposing punitive gasoline taxes, not the other way around.   There's nothing "progressive" about taxing gasoline to death - it's an extremely regressive tax.  The market price of gasoline should determine the amount of gasoline usage, not the (supposedly) all-knowing Atlasian government.

Giving the citizens of the Northeast their money back is better than wasting it on yet another wasteful, "progressive" government program.  We work for the citizens of the Northeast, not the other way around.
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« Reply #2291 on: April 03, 2010, 04:31:11 PM »

Aye (for the Freedom To Drive Act)
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« Reply #2292 on: April 04, 2010, 12:08:16 AM »



By a vote of 4-0 with 1 express abstention and four unexcused absences, the Freedom To Drive Act passes.

Debate will continue on the Northeast Emergency Militia Act until 4:45 PM on Sunday, unless there's a motion to extend debate given recent developments **hint**.
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« Reply #2293 on: April 04, 2010, 12:10:27 AM »

On the Northeast Emergency Militia Act:

As you may be aware, the union has ceased striking after CJO RowanBrandon's ruling rewarding damages for breach of contract to the Northeast.

Where do we want to go from here?  Do we really need the NEMA, or should we try to open negotiations from the union, perhaps asking for concessions in lieu of waiving part of the penalty?
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« Reply #2294 on: April 04, 2010, 03:26:28 AM »

We should get as much out of them as possible.

Sorry for my absence. It was out of my jurisdiction.
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« Reply #2295 on: April 04, 2010, 05:38:25 PM »

On the Northeast Emergency Militia Act:

As you may be aware, the union has ceased striking after CJO RowanBrandon's ruling rewarding damages for breach of contract to the Northeast.

Where do we want to go from here?  Do we really need the NEMA, or should we try to open negotiations from the union, perhaps asking for concessions in lieu of waiving part of the penalty?

Personally, I would still consider passing it.
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« Reply #2296 on: April 04, 2010, 05:41:19 PM »

I think we should table the measure. I would support an amendment that allowed for training new officers so we can just fire all these strikers.
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« Reply #2297 on: April 04, 2010, 06:13:05 PM »

I'm unilaterally extending the debate period until 4:45PM tomorrow.
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« Reply #2298 on: April 05, 2010, 08:17:54 AM »

I think we should table the measure. I would support an amendment that allowed for training new officers so we can just fire all these strikers.

VASTLY expensive proposition, and you can't "train" years or decades of experience on the streets into rookies.

Wouldn't it be better to simply seek a tough settlement with the officer's organizations go on an anti-union ideological bent?
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« Reply #2299 on: April 05, 2010, 12:30:23 PM »
« Edited: April 05, 2010, 12:50:04 PM by Grumpy Gramps »

We should get as much out of them as possible.

Sorry for my absence. It was out of my jurisdiction.

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