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« Reply #2850 on: November 18, 2010, 06:37:25 PM »


Oops

Um...um...Ni.
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« Reply #2851 on: November 18, 2010, 06:41:44 PM »

I suppose that means it officially fails.
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« Reply #2852 on: November 18, 2010, 06:44:43 PM »
« Edited: November 18, 2010, 06:46:41 PM by Charlie in '14 »



The bill fails.

Ayes: 2
Nays: 3

Next up, we shall move to the next piece of legislation.

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The question is whether the bill should be considered?

The ayes have it.

Debate on this bill will continue until at least November 20th, 6:45 PM unless the debate period is extended or shortened in accordance with the SOAP.

The sponsor, Dallasfan65, has the floor.
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« Reply #2853 on: November 18, 2010, 06:46:14 PM »

I motion that we either shorten debate until November 19th, 9:30 PM or extend it until November 20th, 9:30 PM. I won't be able to close the vote in a timely manner otherwise.
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« Reply #2854 on: November 18, 2010, 06:48:35 PM »

I second the motion to shorten debate.  I do not see how this measure is controversial.
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« Reply #2855 on: November 18, 2010, 06:54:04 PM »

Can somebody third it?
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« Reply #2856 on: November 18, 2010, 09:15:48 PM »

...ok, thirded.
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« Reply #2857 on: November 18, 2010, 09:21:01 PM »

Anybody have any input?
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« Reply #2858 on: November 18, 2010, 09:22:18 PM »

This is a reasonable procedural device, I'll probably support it.
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« Reply #2859 on: November 18, 2010, 09:23:24 PM »

A necessary thing.  Is it constitutional?
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« Reply #2860 on: November 18, 2010, 09:28:59 PM »

A necessary thing.  Is it constitutional?

As far as I know, yes - this is just us editing our SOAP, or rather, how we run ourselves - and I'm almost positive we need not the Governor's signature to do this.
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« Reply #2861 on: November 19, 2010, 09:30:04 PM »



We shall now hold a vote on the Amendment to the SOAP. Representatives have 24 hours to vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #2862 on: November 19, 2010, 09:35:28 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #2863 on: November 19, 2010, 11:54:57 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #2864 on: November 20, 2010, 12:32:07 AM »

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« Reply #2865 on: November 20, 2010, 09:08:30 PM »

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« Reply #2866 on: November 20, 2010, 09:54:11 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #2867 on: November 20, 2010, 11:20:37 PM »

Does this mean we're all in agreement?
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« Reply #2868 on: November 21, 2010, 12:10:35 AM »

My sincerest apologies for not closing the vote earlier - I left the door at about 7 AM and just walked back in a few minutes ago. Phew.



The amendment to the SOAP passes.

Ayes: 5
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« Reply #2869 on: November 21, 2010, 12:15:17 AM »
« Edited: November 21, 2010, 09:26:27 PM by Charlie in '14 »



We shall now move on to the Northeast Regional Drinking Policy.

Northeast Regional Drinking Policy

1. In accordance The Regional Legal Age Act, the Northeast hereby sets the drinking age to 18.

2. Any bar, liquor store, or other legitimate distributor unknowingly accepting a false ID will not be penalized.

3. Any bar, liquor store, or other legitimate distributor knowingly accepting a false ID shall be fined no less than $5,000, and no greater than $10,000.

4. Any minor having been found using a false ID shall face destruction of the ID in question and twenty-four hours of community service.

5. With permission of a parent or legal guardian, a minor has permission to consume, but not purchase, alcohol, including but not limited to: wine, champagne, beer, whiskey, liquor, etc.


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The question is whether the bill should be considered?

The ayes have it.

Debate on this bill will continue until at least November 23rd, 12:15 AM unless the debate period is extended or shortened in accordance with the SOAP.

The sponsor, Dallasfan65, has the floor.
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« Reply #2870 on: November 21, 2010, 05:18:58 PM »

I apologise, needed to butt in here, I wanted to get my concerns on the record.

I commend the gentleman for this Bill, I feel it addresses some important issues.

I fully support lowering the drinking age to 18, however, there are some other elements of this Bill, that I feel do not reflect those key issues when it comes to drinking. In its current form, I cannot vote for this in its entirety.

I will be offering up amendments to this Bill.

Northeast Regional Drinking Policy

1. In accordance The Regional Legal Age Act, the Northeast hereby sets the drinking age to 18.

2. Any bar, liquor store, or other legitimate distributor unknowingly accepting a false ID will not be penalized.

3. Any bar, liquor store, or other legitimate distributor knowingly accepting a false ID shall be fined no less than $5,000, and no greater than $10,000 for a first offence. Each repeat offense will increase the fine by a multiplier of two, with the distributor's liquor licence being revoked after four instances.

4. Any minor having been found using a false ID shall face destruction of the ID in question and twenty-four hours of community service for a first offense. Each subsequent act will incur an additional twenty-four hours of community service, as well as a $1000 fine, which will go towards alcohol rehabilitation programs.

5. With permission of a parent or legal guardian, a minor has permission to consume, but not purchase, alcohol, including but not limited to: wine, champagne, beer, whiskey, liquor, etc.



You will note that I have amended this Bill to remove clause 5, I have done this as I feel this Bill should be focused on the purchase of alcohol, rather than the consumption. I also think this would be a very difficult clause to monitor, under this clause it would be fine for a 10-year old to have a beer.

Thank you,

I yield the floor.
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« Reply #2871 on: November 21, 2010, 09:25:00 PM »

I accept the amendments as friendly - and for the record, this, in a sense, raises the drinking age since the Regional Legal Drinking Age Act actually abolishes the Federal drinking age altogether.
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« Reply #2872 on: November 21, 2010, 10:06:05 PM »

I accept the amendments as friendly - and for the record, this, in a sense, raises the drinking age since the Regional Legal Drinking Age Act actually abolishes the Federal drinking age altogether.

I'm sorry - I suppose I'm not familiar with the relevant issues.  What do you mean by this?

Also, if this passes, I'd like to motion to amend so that it appears in its original form.
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« Reply #2873 on: November 21, 2010, 10:11:27 PM »

I accept the amendments as friendly - and for the record, this, in a sense, raises the drinking age since the Regional Legal Drinking Age Act actually abolishes the Federal drinking age altogether.

I'm sorry - I suppose I'm not familiar with the relevant issues.  What do you mean by this?

Also, if this passes, I'd like to motion to amend so that it appears in its original form.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=122588.90

Basically, this abolished any and all federal drinking age and left this to the Regions.

I'm indifferent, but since wormyguy prefers it in the original form...

I will accept polnut's amendments as unfriendly, thus opening up a vote for it so the whole Assembly may decide.





We shall hold a vote on Polnut's amendments to the Northeast Regional Drinking Policy. Representatives have 24 hours to vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.


Northeast Regional Drinking Policy

1. In accordance The Regional Legal Age Act, the Northeast hereby sets the drinking age to 18.

2. Any bar, liquor store, or other legitimate distributor unknowingly accepting a false ID will not be penalized.

3. Any bar, liquor store, or other legitimate distributor knowingly accepting a false ID shall be fined no less than $5,000, and no greater than $10,000 for a first offence. Each repeat offense will increase the fine by a multiplier of two, with the distributor's liquor licence being revoked after four instances.

4. Any minor having been found using a false ID shall face destruction of the ID in question and twenty-four hours of community service for a first offense. Each subsequent act will incur an additional twenty-four hours of community service, as well as a $1000 fine, which will go towards alcohol rehabilitation programs.

5. With permission of a parent or legal guardian, a minor has permission to consume, but not purchase, alcohol, including but not limited to: wine, champagne, beer, whiskey, liquor, etc.

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« Reply #2874 on: November 21, 2010, 10:14:46 PM »

So, as of right now, there's no drinking age at all?
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