Northeast Assembly Thread

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

[ ] Anotnio V
[X] cinyc
[ ] ________ (Write-in)

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Considering the domination of the right, I guess I don't have any chance to get in. It's sad because Speakership is not supposed to be a partisan position...

Domination of the right?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Antonio's cluelessness and inability to be professional were my reasons for voting against him. He further proved it with his posts in this thread.

Can I respectfully ask you what you mean by this ?

Your bitter partisan attacks and inability to respect others led me to vote for cinyc, someone who has never spoke ill of any group without due reason.

Please, tell me when I ever made partisan attacks and lacked respect toward other Reps. in the Assembly thread.

Not in this thread, maybe. I'm not going to dig. But certainly around the bord. You have spread ies and been openly hostile to myself, Libertas, andothers. If you ant a higher office, run for Governor. I will votefor you in February i you do.

I have always been polite with all of you in legislative debates. Notwithsatnding my personal concerns with you, I voted most of your bills because I found them good and well-written. So please don't call me immature.  I can perfectly accept that you don't vote for me, but please don't throw dishonest attacks against me.

But its true though. You treat people you disagree with pretty poorly.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

As a Northeast Representative, I have always debated about issues and never with personal anger. I challenge you to prove the contrary.

The expectation for respect doesn't stop at the borders of this thread.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I nominate segwaystyle2012 and I think we should use a single vote system, with no changes once cast.

I would like to second this nomination and third this voting method proposal.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

[X]  segwaystyle2012 (GaryJohnson2012)
[  ]  Smid
[  ]  Write in:_________________________

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I'm looking to write an expansive bill centered on urban revitalization. Anyone interested in helping?

Sure, what sort of ideas did you have in mind?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I'm looking to write an expansive bill centered on urban revitalization. Anyone interested in helping?

Sure, what sort of ideas did you have in mind?

Well, what I want is to create market-based initiatives to bring businesses back to urban centers, improve public schools in inner-city areas, and combat crime in urban centers. I believe if we can successfully manage to work on these three ideas, we can scale back the welfare state and create more opportunities for Northeasterners.

I would think that making available tax credits and low-interest loans for potential business starters within urban areas could jump-start economic growth.

I think the best way to deal with crime would definitely be by employing positive-focused programs to reduce the causes of crime rather than on expanding policing which will only lead to more inner-city resentment.

For education, I'm not sure how much influence regional government should exert on local school systems. But I think the education system could be improved my focusing more on students as individuals. 

Perhaps establish a program to identify the most gifted students within inner city communities and ensure they are able to thrive in well-funded competitive schools, upon graduation of which they would be immediately eligible for a grant if they remain to improve their area?

Students who aren't interested in academics, on the other hand, should be provided the with the resources to develop another skill or trade valuable to society, rather than be forced to fail and grow disillusioned.

Also improvement of mass transportation services is a must for any urban revitalization program.

Just some ideas. Any thoughts? I could write some things up if you wish.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

These are all ideas I have advocated and support. But on problem with local inner-city school districts that they are often influenced by the corrupt politics and special interests.

Oh I agree completely. But does the region have jurisdiction to set policy for city school systems?

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How would such a program work?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Motion to amend.

Anti-Discrimination Act

1. The Northeast Government pledges to uphold the rights of all citizens regardless of race, gender, gender identity, class, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.
2. The Northeast Government will hereby refuse government contracts to any company or organization which is found to discriminate on the basis of race, gender, gender identity, class, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.
3. The Northeast Government, in hiring, and in representation, shall not discriminate on the basis of race, gender, gender identity, class, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.

What's the purpose of this now-unfriendly amendment, i.e., what's the difference?

Males than identify as women, females that idenitfy as men.

It's not something believe in or support legitimizing.

Yes, it would provide protection for the transgendered. Which is, frankly, much better grounded in science as "not a choice" than homosexuality.

So if a company doesn't allow men who claim to identify as women to use women's restroom facilities, this would be considered discrimination?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

"Class" is a perfectly appropriate term, and more succinct to boot.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

"Class" is a perfectly appropriate term, and more succinct to boot.

Do you get tired of parroting whatever Hamilton says?

When did Hamilton ever say "'Class' is a perfectly appropriate term, and more succinct to boot"?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Official Ballot
Amendment 1 (Rep. Mr. Moderate): Nay
Amendment 2 (Rep. Doctor Cynic): Nay
Amendment 3 (Rep. Sewer Socialist): Nay
Amendment 4 (Rep. Kalwjet): Nay

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I agree "smell" amendment is a joke.

But there are things like gender orientation we should not ignore.

My question on the gender identity issue was never even addressed.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I don't need to have sympathy for overeaters, let alone have the government not work with those who don't hire a huge person. Next we know the government is going to have to super size everything.

This is not about sympathy, but about justice.

Size and smell are both choices.

Lose weight and take a shower.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I don't need to have sympathy for overeaters, let alone have the government not work with those who don't hire a huge person. Next we know the government is going to have to super size everything.

This is not about sympathy, but about justice.

Size and smell are both choices.

Lose weight and take a shower.

Obesity is an illness.

An illness one brings upon oneself by making poor personal choices. There are consequences to be faced. A company shouldn't be forced to bear the burden because a potential employee can't fit through their front door.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

The issue of approving unhealthy behavior has what to do with social score?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

Many times, it's not intentional. 90% of the times, it's not entirely intentional. Plus, if the society didn't set excessively restricting and unrealistic beauty canons, 10% of "obeses" wouldn't be considered so.

So you are obese?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

Many times, it's not intentional. 90% of the times, it's not entirely intentional. Plus, if the society didn't set excessively restricting and unrealistic beauty canons, 10% of "obeses" wouldn't be considered so.

So you are obese?

Why do you say that ?

Why are you making up 1001 lame excuses for those who make poor personal choices that burden all of society?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I have a duel problem.

So did Alexander Hamilton.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

The issue of approving unhealthy behavior has what to do with social score?

This debate is pointless at this point. No one is going to change their mind, the bill will be tabled, and we will move on to new business. Now, as it pertains to obesity, I don't really care if it is unsightly to you or not. I'm not concerned with attracting Mr. Hamilton. I am however concerned with getting overweight people equal oppertunity to jobs they've applied to. Now, if the employer feels they are not right for the job based on merits, I say don't hire 'em. If they are derelict after they are hired, fire 'em. But if you can do a job, there's no reason not to allow them or anyone else to work.

So, I will await, the Speaker's closing of the vote and for the bill to be tabled and I will enjoy the show it brings.

So should sumo wrestler organizations be forced to hire thin people?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

The issue of approving unhealthy behavior has what to do with social score?

This debate is pointless at this point. No one is going to change their mind, the bill will be tabled, and we will move on to new business. Now, as it pertains to obesity, I don't really care if it is unsightly to you or not. I'm not concerned with attracting Mr. Hamilton. I am however concerned with getting overweight people equal oppertunity to jobs they've applied to. Now, if the employer feels they are not right for the job based on merits, I say don't hire 'em. If they are derelict after they are hired, fire 'em. But if you can do a job, there's no reason not to allow them or anyone else to work.

So, I will await, the Speaker's closing of the vote and for the bill to be tabled and I will enjoy the show it brings.

So should sumo wrestler organizations be forced to hire thin people?

I've seen thin sumo wrestlers actually.

That wasn't the question....

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Why change it to 16? 14 is fine.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Why change it to 16? 14 is fine.

The proposed change is to 14.  Current law is 16.  Adults should not be having sex with 14-year-olds.  It's way too young and the potential for exploitation is far too great.

Well I would prefer psychological evaluations be mandated in such cases rather than implement a one-sized-fits-all policy. It may be disgusting to think of, but if the 15-year-old has the capacity to consent, what he or she does is his/her business.

If I am reading the bill right, a 21-year-old having sex with a 14-year-old would be illegal, so we are talking about 15+ anyway.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

<wondering why someone doesn't reintroduce the same bill with amendments passed as their own to avoid it being retabled?>

Somebody already has - but under our rules, it has to wait in the queue behind other legislation.

We will not get to it this session and next session the composition will be more favorable to us.

Maybe.  Maybe not.  You're probably forgetting the rule in the SOAP that gives priority to other members' bills after another representative has had 2 pieces of legislation placed on the floor. 

Even so, I will just have it repealed.

Power is starting to make you mad. I foresee you will end up like DWTL.

Hamilton proves once again he's only attention-seeker. He's not interested in debate and feel even offended if someone else have suggestions He want to either take full credit or to kill the bill, if we don't follow him like blind zombies. He refuses to engage in debate.

Pathetic.

Would you two trolls please cut the dramatics already?

Rep. Hamilton is perfectly within his right to table his bill if it is ruined with poor amendments.