Smid's Diplomacy Game Thread #3

[Smid]

France Gustaf
Russia Nick J Bor
Italy Jas (sorry mate)
Germany Erc
Austria-Hungary Silent Hunter
Turkey PiT
England Mikado

As per normal, I'll adjudicate sometime on Sunday (Australian time) so no matter where you are in the world, if you let me know by midnight Friday night your time, you'll meet the deadline.

The first orders are due the end of this week.

[Smid]

Smid, I'll keep a backup map of the game. If you find that life calls for you to have another break let me know. Otherwise I may kibbitz as in the past. Good luck to all powers.

Most appreciated, Muon! Your comments are always insightful in the thread, so I enjoy your input and I appreciate you keeping a backup handy if needs be.

[Smid]

     I've never played before, so I have spent some time studying the rules as well as the previous two games. I hope everyone has a fun time in this game.

Hint: give ILV all your base.

     I'm in your base, killing your dudes.

Sorry, all your base are belong to him.

[Smid]

Snip

(If your wondering the only word you can spell with all the letters is FRIGATE)

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I always publish results in this order.

[Smid]

Why are you saying sorry to Jas? Silent Hunter's in trouble.

I apologise to whoever I draw for Italy. I've done it in the past two games, as well.

[Smid]

I PM'd Erc when I was establishing the game and he said he was looking forward to participating in a new game, and he was consistent in placing orders in the first game, so I have had no reason to suspect him to not be involved. I'll send him another PM to let him know the game's started.

[Smid]

The moves for Spring 1901 were:



France
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Marseilles - Spain
A Paris - Picardy

Russia
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Sevastopol - Rumania
F St Petersburg (sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Galicia (*Bounce*)

Italy
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Venice
A Venice - Apulia

Germany
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Ruhr

Austria-Hungary
A Budapest - Serbia
F Trieste Holds
A Vienna - Galicia (*Bounce*)

Turkey
F Ankara Holds
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna - Constantinople

England
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Yorkshire
F London - North Sea

Following the resolution of the orders, the map appears thus:



There are no required retreats.

[Smid]

The moves for Fall 1901 were:



France
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Picardy - Belgium
A Spain Holds

Russia
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Rumania Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Ukraine - Galicia
A Warsaw - Silesia

Italy
A Apulia - Tunis
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis
A Venice - Tyrolia

Germany
F Denmark - Sweden (*Bounce*)
A Kiel - Holland
A Ruhr Supports A Kiel - Holland

Austria-Hungary
A Serbia Holds
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Budapest

Turkey
F Ankara - Constantinople
A Bulgaria - Greece
A Constantinople - Bulgaria

England
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Holland
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Yorkshire - Holland (*Fails*)


No retreats are required. Subsequent to the moves, the map appears thus:



Builds required are thus:

F 3
R 1
I 1
G 2
A 1
T 2
E 1

[Smid]

Builds were as follows:

France
F Marseilles
F Brest
A Paris

Russia
A Warsaw

Italy
F Naples

Germany
F Kiel
A Berlin

Austria-Hungary
A Vienna

Turkey
A Ankara
F Smyrna

England
F London



Therefore, prior to the moves for Spring 1902, the map appears thus:

[Smid]

The moves for Spring 1902 were:



France
A Belgium Holds
F Brest - English Channel (*Bounce*)
F Marseilles - Gulf of Lyon
A Paris - Burgundy
F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Spain - Marseilles

Russia
A Galicia Holds
F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea
F Rumania Supports A Bulgaria
A Silesia - Berlin (*Fails*)
A Warsaw Supports A Galicia

Italy
F Ionian Sea Supports F Albania - Greece
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Tunis Holds
A Tyrolia - Bohemia

Germany
A Berlin Supports A Ruhr - Munich (*Cut*)
F Denmark - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Holland Holds
F Kiel - Helgoland Bight
A Ruhr - Munich

Austria-Hungary
F Albania - Greece
A Budapest Supports A Serbia
A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece
A Vienna Supports A Tyrolia - Bohemia

Turkey
A Ankara - Constantinople
A Bulgaria Supports A Greece
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
A Greece Holds (*Disbanded*)
F Smyrna - Eastern Mediterranean

England
F London - English Channel (*Bounce*)
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Holland
F Norway Holds
A Yorkshire - Holland (*Fails*)

Consequently, the map now appears thus:

[Smid]

Sorry about the delay this week - my wife and I flew my sister down to Melbourne for the weekend as an early Christmas present and I've spent most of the weekend out with them. Anyway, the moves for this week were:



France
A Belgium Holds
F Brest - English Channel
A Burgundy - Ruhr
F Gulf of Lyon Holds
A Marseilles Holds
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Brest - English Channel

Russia
F Baltic Sea Supports A Silesia - Berlin
A Galicia Holds
F Rumania Holds (*Dislodged*)
A Silesia - Berlin
A Warsaw Supports A Galicia

Italy
A Bohemia Supports A Vienna - Galicia
F Ionian Sea Supports F Greece
A Tunis - Tuscany
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Tuscany

Germany
A Berlin Supports A Munich - Silesia (*Dislodged*)
F Denmark - Kiel (*Bounce*)
F Helgoland Bight - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Holland - Kiel (*Bounce*)
A Munich - Silesia

Austria-Hungary
A Budapest - Rumania
F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea
A Serbia Suupprts A Budapest - Rumania
A Vienna - Galicia (*Fails*)

Turkey
F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria Holds
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Aegean Sea

England
F London - English Channel (*Fails*)
F North Sea Supports F London - English Channel (*Cut*)
F Norway - Sweden
A Yorkshire - London (*Fails*)

Therefore, the map, prior to retreats, appears thus:



There are two retreats required - German A Berlin and Russian F Rumania.

[Smid]

I'll update the map when I get home from work this evening, but I've received both retreats so I'll publicise them in the meantime:

(German) A Berlin retreats to Munich
(Russian) F Rumania disbands.

[Smid]

I've mentioned the retreats, so this is how the map appears prior to the builds of Winter 1902:



The builds are (Brackets indicate total number of SCs):

F - Build 0 (6)
R - Build 1 (5)
I - Build 0 (4)
G - Remove 1 (4)
A - Build 2 (6)
T - Build 0 (4)
E - Build 1 (5)

[Smid]

Builds are:

F N/A
R Build A Sevastopol
I N/A
G Disband F Denmark
A Build F Trieste, A Budapest
T N/A
E Build F Liverpool

And the map now appears thus:

[Smid]

Diplomacy on a World Map
On another forum I'm at we are playing Diplomacy on a world map, but are having a horrible number of drop outs. I'm wondering if anyone wanted to play as a fill in. Details found:
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I had a look when you PM'd me yesterday about it. If you get desperate, I'll play, but I'd prefer to sit it out for now.

[Smid]

The moves for Spring 1903 were:



France
A Belgium Supports A Ruhr
F English Channel Supports A Belgium (*Cut*)
F Gulf of Lyon - Marseilles
A Marseilles - Burgundy
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F English Channel
A Ruhr Supports A Marseilles - Burgundy

Russia
F Baltic Sea Supports A Berlin
A Berlin Holds
A Galicia Holds
A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Warsaw Supports A Galicia

Italy
A Bohemia Supports A Vienna - Galicia (*Void*)
F Ionian Sea Supports F Greece
A Tuscany - Venice (*Bounce*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Ionian Sea

Germany
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Holland
A Holland Supports A Munich - Kiel
A Munich - Kiel
A Silesia - Munich

Austria-Hungary
A Budapest Holds
F Greece Supports A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Rumania - Ukraine
A Serbia - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
F Trieste - Venice (*Bounce*)
A Vienna - Tyrolia

Turkey
F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Cut*)
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Aegean Sea

England
F Liverpool - Irish Sea
F London - English Channel (*Fails*)
F North Sea Supports F London - English Channel
F Sweden Holds
A Yorkshire - Wales.

Following the moves, the map appears thus:



No retreats are required.

[Smid]

The Moves for Fall 1903 were:



France
A Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland (*Void*)
A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - Munich
F English Channel - Picardy
F Marseilles - Gulf of Lyon
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Holds
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)

Russia
F Baltic Sea - Berlin
A Berlin - Silesia
A Galicia - Warsaw (*Fails*)
A Rumania - Sevastopol
A Warsaw - Moscow (*Bounce*)

Italy
A Bohemia - Venice (*Bounce*)
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
A Tuscany - Venice (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea

Germany
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Holland
A Holland Supports F North Sea - Belgium (*Void*)
A Kiel Supports A Munich
A Munich Supports A Bohemia - Tyrolia (*Void*)

Austria-Hungary
A Budapes - Vienna (*Bounce*)
F Greece - Bulgaria (sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria (sc)
F Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice
A Ukraine - Moscow (*Bounce*)

Turkey
F Aegean Sea - Greece
A Bulgaria Supports F Aegean Sea - Greece (*Dislodged*)
A Constantinople - Smyrna
F Eastern Mediterranean - Aegean Sea

England
F Irish Sea Supports F London - English Channel
F London - English Channel
F North Sea Supports F London - English Channel
F Sweden Holds
A Wales Holds

Following the moves, the map appears thus:



One retreat is required - Turkey A Bulgaria.

[Smid]

Turkey's A Bul retreats to Rum.

Prior to builds, the map appears thus:



Turkey gains a build, Russia a disband, all other powers remain the same.

[Smid]

Sorry - it is indeed my error. I looked too quickly at the "Status" Window in Realpolitik and misread the line with the disband.

So Turkey builds an Army in Constantinople and Italy disbands its Army in Bohemia.

[Smid]

Moves for Spring 1904 were:



France
A Belgium Holds
A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - Munich
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - North Atlantic Ocean
F Picardy - Brest
A Ruhr - Munich

Russia
F Berlin Holds
A Galicia Supports A Silesia - Warsaw (*Cut*)
A Sevastopol Supports A Rumania (*Ordered to Move*)
A Silesia - Warsaw
A Warsaw - Livonia

Italy
F Adriatic Sea S F Ionian Sea - Apulia (*Cut*)
F Ionian Sea - Apulia
A Tuscany - Rome

Germany
F Helgoland Bight - Holland
A Holland - Ruhr
A Kiel Supports A Holland - Ruhr
A Munich Supports A Holland - Ruhr (*Dislodged*)

Austria-Hungary
A Budapest - Galicia (*Fails*)
F Bulgaria (sc) - Greece (*Disbanded*)
A Serbia - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
F Trieste - Adriatic Sea (*Fails*)
A Ukraine - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
A Venice - Tuscany

Turkey
F Aegean Sea Supports F Greece
A Constantinople Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Greece Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Smyrna Holds

England
F English Channel Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Sea Supports F English Channel
F Sweden Holds
A Wales - London

After moves, the map appears thus:



Retreats are required for the German Army in Munich.

[Smid]

Germany
F Helgoland Bight - Holland
A Holland - Ruhr
A Kiel Supports A Holland - Ruhr
A Munich Supports A Holland - Ruhr (*Disbanded*)

After moves, the map appears thus:



Retreats are required for the German Army in Munich.

The map and the retreat are correct, but the orders should show (*Dislodged*) for A mun.

Cheers for spotting that for me!

[Smid]

My army in Munich retreats to Tyrolia.

[Smid]

The moves for this week were:



France
A Belgium - Ruhr
F Brest Holds
A Burgundy Supports A Munich
A Munich Supports A Belgium - Ruhr
F North Atlantic Ocean - Liverpool
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis

Russia
F Berlin Holds
A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*)
A Livonia - Moscow
A Sevastopol Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Warsaw Holds

Italy
F Adriatic Sea Supports F Apulia - Venice
F Apulia - Venice
A Rome Supports F Apulia - Venice

Germany
F Holland NMR
A Kiel NMR
A Ruhr NMR (*Disbanded*)
A Tyrolia NMR

Austria-Hungary
A Budapest Supports A Ukraine - Rumania (*Cut*)
A Serbia - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
F Trieste Supports A Tuscany - Venice
A Tuscany - Venice (*Fails*)
A Ukraine - Rumania (*Fails*)

Turkey
F Aegean Sea Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Greece Holds
A Smyrna - Constantinople

England
F English Channel Supports A London - Belgium
A London - Belgium
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
F North Sea Convoys A London - Belgium
F Sweden Holds

The map following these moves appears thus:



There are no retreats required.

Builds are:

F Build 1
R Build 0
I Build 0
G Build 0
A Remove 1
T Build 1
E Build 1

And the Supply Centre Count is:

F 7
R 5
I 3
G 3
A 4
T 6
E 6

[Smid]

why England doesn't move to Norway or one of those seas next to Sev is interesting.  Seems like you'd either hold Sev hostage or just move into Denmark.

England will certainly own Spain by next turn, maybe she just doesn't want to make any unnecessary enemies. 

On the other side of the map I thought the hold on Greece was interesting. With a hold it couldn't contribute to the turn's action. Had it been used to support the move into Bulgaria, it would have freed up the Aegean fleet to get in position for action in the following spring.

When typing the results, I actually went back and checked my PMs to ensure I hadn't mis-entered the orders for that Fleet in Greece because I was so surprised by it.

[Smid]

Yeah, what's up with Erc? Giving up?

I sent a PM to players I hadn't heard from about 48 hours ago, reminding them to get their orders in. I haven't heard anything from Erc since then. Not sure if he's been away from his computer unexpectedly or if he's given up.