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« Reply #1675 on: March 21, 2013, 12:19:05 am »

Ah, defending the liberty of the businesses exploiting their employees and the liberty of oppressing minorities and poor people.

I suppose this isn't the place to argue this, but you need to put more faith in the markets, my friend.
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« Reply #1676 on: March 21, 2013, 05:17:33 am »

Ah, defending the liberty of the businesses exploiting their employees and the liberty of oppressing minorities and poor people.

I suppose this isn't the place to argue this, but you need to put more faith in the markets, my friend.

Right, so the top 10% of Americans can control 100% of the wealth as opposed to the 80% they control now.
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« Reply #1677 on: March 21, 2013, 11:23:13 am »

Ah, defending the liberty of the businesses exploiting their employees and the liberty of oppressing minorities and poor people.

I suppose this isn't the place to argue this, but you need to put more faith in the markets, my friend.

Right, so the top 10% of Americans can control 100% of the wealth as opposed to the 80% they control now.

Government and political structure has a lot more to do with the wealthy having so much money than the markets do. Absent bailouts, insider deals, subsidies, etc the people would have a lot more power. Adam Smith knew what he was talking about. Are you sure you're a libertarian?
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« Reply #1678 on: March 21, 2013, 02:18:04 pm »

Ah, defending the liberty of the businesses exploiting their employees and the liberty of oppressing minorities and poor people.

I suppose this isn't the place to argue this, but you need to put more faith in the markets, my friend.

Right, so the top 10% of Americans can control 100% of the wealth as opposed to the 80% they control now.

Government and political structure has a lot more to do with the wealthy having so much money than the markets do. Absent bailouts, insider deals, subsidies, etc the people would have a lot more power. Adam Smith knew what he was talking about. Are you sure you're a libertarian?

I'm 100% sure I'm not a Libertarian and I'm wearing the avatar for ornamental purposes.

What you fail to realize is that long before Government was the "big, evil, awful" thing that Libertarians view it as, markets were making people richer than would ever be necessary. Tell me, how would the free market resolve wealth inequality? The answer is, it doesn't.

Libertarians like to believe that the free market is the answer to all of America's (and the world's) problems, when in fact it caused most of those problems in the first place. It was the free market that created wealth inequality, and encouraged/encourages it in modern society. The first "rich" people--the ones that made more money than others when America was first becoming an industrial nation--did not hold that much more wealth than say the "poorer" Americans. What happened was, the industrialization expanded and corporations were born.

Corporations exist to ensure that a sort of oligarchical system be upheld throughout the monetary system. Meaning, the CEOs of the biggest companies are ensured a lot more money than the lower classes (about 350-400 times as much money, to be exact) for doing quantities less work. They deliver a cheap, but "okay enough" product onto the market, and consumerism ensures that it is eaten up without questioning exactly what it is or how it was made.

The problem is that such a small amount of people control such a disturbingly large portion of the wealth in this country (and world) and will only end up controlling more. Is Government doing anything to stop it? Not really, and certainly not as much as we should be doing. But that's because corporations have the power of Government. We need leaders that will not be afraid to stand up to corporations and strip them of their power. The voice needs to be returned to the average citizen, and the wealth with it.

I'm not talking about full-fledged socialism, I'm talking about equality. Where the poor aren't as poor and the rich aren't as rich. No one in this world could possibly need a billion dollars for their own use. They just invest it so they can make more money that they won't spend.
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« Reply #1679 on: March 21, 2013, 07:46:33 pm »

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« Reply #1680 on: March 22, 2013, 02:21:59 am »

Ah, defending the liberty of the businesses exploiting their employees and the liberty of oppressing minorities and poor people.

I suppose this isn't the place to argue this, but you need to put more faith in the markets, my friend.

Right, so the top 10% of Americans can control 100% of the wealth as opposed to the 80% they control now.

Government and political structure has a lot more to do with the wealthy having so much money than the markets do. Absent bailouts, insider deals, subsidies, etc the people would have a lot more power. Adam Smith knew what he was talking about. Are you sure you're a libertarian?

Sure, a perfectly free market in a perfect world would work very well and would be better than every other option.

But, the market isn't free, even if state doesn't involve with it.
In many areas, there is only one business offering a service (monopoly) or only a couple ones, which often cooperate with each other in order to bring prices higher and to ban potential competitors from entering the market (oligopoly).

Free market can only work with small businesses, because the big ones always finish by changing the rules of game in their advantage. Why food in convinence stores is more expensive than in groceries? Because grossists are selling food cheaper to the groceries. And there is plenty of exemples like that.

Big corporations and businesses are too well integrated and built to allow free competition.
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« Reply #1681 on: March 22, 2013, 06:43:45 pm »

Can we ban political debates in this thread? As hilarious as it is to see 20RP12 attacking libertarianism there are plenty of other places for political debates.
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« Reply #1682 on: March 31, 2013, 01:09:19 pm »

Age: 17
Gender: Male
Weight: 132
Height: 5'8
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Place of birth: Pittsburgh, PA
Occupation: High school student
Political figures you most admire: Can't pick any single one.  Willy Brandt, Robert Kennedy, Jeanette Rankin, Mary White Ovingtin, Michel Rocard, Eugene V. Debs, and Mohammed Mossadegh.
Favorite President: JFK.
Political Orientation: Social democrat/Owenite Democratic  Socialist.  Basically a supporter of social democratic policies: highly progressive taxation, a minimum wage equal to the living wage, universal health care, free but quality education through the college level, an economy reliant solely on renewable energy, etc.  Through these means, I imagine that social classes will fade away, and workers will have the option of working at firms in which they have a say.  Also normally anti-war, though prepared to support humanitarian interventions like the ones in Libya, Kosovo, etc. 
Favorite Musicians/Composers: Franz Schubert, Anotin Dvorak, Gustav Mahler, Dmitri Shostakovich, Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, Giaccomo Puccini, Johannes Brahms, Leonard Bernstein.
Favorite Sports Teams: Not really a sports kinda guy.  I'll just go with the Penguins and Steelers.
Favorite Books: The Harry Potter series, Fahrenheit 451, Anything by Kurt Vonnegut
Favorite TV Shows: United States of Tara, the First Season of Skins.  Don't really watch TV much anymore.
Favorite Movies: Inception, The Perks of Being a Wallflower, The King's Speech
Other Interests: Musical composition. 
Favorite People on Atlas: Almost everyone here.  Can't really pick any one person.
Least Favorite Person on Atlas:
Do you live by yourself?: Nope.  With my family.
Siblings: 1 brother
Relationship Status: Single at the moment
What year did you join Atlas?: 2011.
Nieces/Nephews: Nope
Have you ever been attracted to a person of the same sex?: Uh, yep.  I'm gay.
If you could pick your own nationality, what would you be?: Scottish, Norwegian, French, German, Brazilian, or Canadian (Either English or French, both are fascinating).
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« Reply #1683 on: March 31, 2013, 01:50:55 pm »

Favorite Movies: Inception, The Perks of Being a Wallflower, The King's Speech
(Either English or French, both are fascinating).

We have the same favourite movies. Kudos to that.

P.S. I'm glad you find my nationality fascinating. Tongue
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« Reply #1684 on: April 01, 2013, 01:31:36 am »

Favorite Sports Teams: Not really a sports kinda guy.  I'll just go with the Penguins

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« Reply #1685 on: April 04, 2013, 09:18:15 pm »

Age: 18
Gender: Male
Weight: 175
Height: 6'3.5"
Gender: Male
Religion: Catholic
Race/ethnicity: 1/2 Spanish, 1/4 Italian, 1/4 White Anglo-Saxon Protestant
Location: West Islip, NY
Place of birth: Anapolis, MD
Occupation: College student
Political figures you most admire: Henry Clay, Daniel Webster, the founding fathers
Favorite President: Lincoln, Washington, Reagan
Political Orientation: Right conservative
Favorite Musicians/Composers: Wiz Khalifa, Eminem, 50 Cent, Gym Class Heroes, Train, Maroon 5
Favorite Sports Teams: NY Giants, NY Knicks, NY Yankees, NY Islanders
Favorite Books: Michael Vey by Richard Paul Evans
Favorite TV Shows: Breaking Bad, The Big Bang Theory, The Amazing Race
Favorite Movies: 300, Remember the Titans
Other Interests: Playing sports, Hanging out with my friends and girlfriend, Traveling
Favorite People on Atlas: Just joined today
Least Favorite Person on Atlas: Again, just joined today
Do you live by yourself?: No, with my parents and siblings
Siblings: 2 sisters, 1 brother
Relationship Status: In a relationship
What year did you join Atlas?: 2013 (today!)
Nieces/Nephews: At the rate my sister and her boyfriend are going probably soon
Have you ever been attracted to a person of the same sex?: I think some guys are good looking but I don't want to have sex with them
If you could pick your own nationality, what would you be?: I'm happy with being American
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« Reply #1686 on: April 04, 2013, 09:40:58 pm »

Age: 16
Gender: Male
Race/ethnicity: White
Religion: Haven't given it enough thought.
Height: 6'2
Weight: 143
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Where you were born: Melbourne, Australia
Occupation: Student
Person you most admire: Angelina Jolie, Audrey Hepburn, Julia Gillard
Favorite President: FDR (HRC)
Political Orientation: Left-wing ideally, tbh not everyone deserves equal rights.
Favorite Musician(s): Dido, Azealia Banks, Dixie Chicks, etc.
Favorite Sports team: Carlton FC
Favorite Book: To Kill A Mockingbird
Favorite Show: Borgen & Happy Endings
Favorite Movie: Before Sunset, Casablanca & Moulin Rouge
Other interests: Politics, current affairs, animals, film&tv
Favorite person on Atlas: N/A
Least Favorite person on Atlas: N/A
Favorite color: Blue
Do you live by yourself: No.
Do you have any siblings? Yes.
Relationship status? Single.
What year did you join Atlas? 2012
Do you have any nieces, nephews? No.
Have you ever been attracted to someone of the same sex? Sometimes.
If you could pick your own nationality, what nationality would you pick? Australian, it's the best country in my opinion.
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« Reply #1687 on: April 20, 2013, 10:43:49 pm »


Well, It's Saturday night, the beer is cool and that tall, big breasted, long legged italian-brazilian blonde will never come back, so, why not?


Age: dangerously near to the 40's. Really scary.

Gender: Male

Race/ethnic compostion: 1/4 French, 1/8 Italian, some Spanish and Dutch, and a majority of Portuguese/Non-European/Brazilian/Whatever. White for BR standards.

Religion: A very curious thing, from the anthropological POV.

Height: 178

Weight: low, very low.

Location: Belo Horizonte, MG, BR.

Where you were born: Grenoble, IsŤre, FR.

Occupation: Architect.

Person you most admire: The homeless guy who passes the whole night yelling on the upper block corner: no bills, no pressure and boozed all day long. After him, a friend of mine, who was able to overcome the fact of being a poor afro-brazilian from the peripheric sh**tneighbourhoods of this oligarchical country big cities and became a very cultured and respected constitutionalist (one cannot even imagine how odd such an achievement is). Then, my father, with his colourful life and colourful thoughts.

Favorite President: None (FR), Vargas (BR), Lincoln (US).

Political Orientation: JaurŤsist.

Favorite Band: The Clash, The Beatles, Nirvana.

Favorite Sports team: Clube Atlťtico Mineiro. When It was a team.

Favorite Book: East of Eden.

Favorite Movie: Hard to tell... first, It was Ferris Bueller Day's Off; then, for a little while, The Empire of the Sun; but Trainspotting came one day; and all those old european movies on video... and I finally was completely unable to have a favorite movie for more than a week. This week is There will Be Blood.

Your other interests: Architecture. Urbanism. Anthropology. Victorian age intellectuality. Cladistics. Linguistics. Human Female Behaviour. Ordinated Chaos Theory.

Do you live by yourself?: Aye.

Siblings: 1 sister.

Relationship Status: Separated.

What year did you join Atlas?: 2011.

Nieces/Nephews: 2.

Have you ever been attracted to a person of the same sex?: Nay.

If you could pick your own nationality, what would you be?: If I were ridiculously rich, Polynesian; If I were ridiculously poor, Norwegian; but Brazil is the place where the middle-class lives like rich(not defending It, just pointing out).

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« Reply #1688 on: April 21, 2013, 12:48:45 am »

Age: 16
Gender: Male
Race/ethnic compostion: East Asiatic, Korean
Religion: Presbyterian
Height: 5 feet 10 inches
Weight: 140
Location: Anaheim, CA
Where you were born: Newport Beach, USA
Occupation: Student
Person you most admire: Jesus Christ
Favorite Band: Some World War II-era Wehrmacht choir
Favorite President: Abraham Lincoln
Favorite Sports team: Eh
Your other interests: History, eating
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« Reply #1689 on: April 27, 2013, 09:40:42 pm »

Age: 19
Gender: Male
Race/ethnicity: French, German, Cherokee
Religion: Lutheran
Height: 6'4''
Weight: 170 lbs
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Where you were born: Iola, Kansas
Occupation: Student
Person you most admire: Pope Francis, James Nasimith, John Engle
Favorite President: Eisenhower
Political Orientation: I like to consider myself a moderate libertarian.
Favorite Musician(s): Michael Jackson, Maroon 5, Aerosmith, Queen, Carrie Underwood
Favorite Sports team: Kansas Jayhawks, Kansas City Royals, Kansas City Chiefs
Favorite Book: Brave New World
Favorite Show: Downton Abbey
Favorite Movie: 2012, The Dark Knight, Knowing, Transformers, Finding Nemo (Judge me)
Other interests: Politics, College Basketball, Reading, Pawning
Favorite person on Atlas: Miles, though there are so many great people on here.
Favorite color: Green
Do you live by yourself: No - I live with a brother and his wife
Do you have any siblings? Yes, two brothers
Relationship status? Single
What year did you join Atlas? 2008
Do you have any nieces, nephews? I have three nephews and one beautiful niece - ages 12, 3, 2, and infant
Have you ever been attracted to someone of the same sex? Anyone who says "no" is a liar
If you could pick your own nationality, what nationality would you pick? I kind of wish American was it's own nationality. Maybe one day.
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« Reply #1690 on: May 02, 2013, 10:01:48 pm »

Age: 19
Gender: Male
Religion: Christian
Height: 5'10"
Location: Auckland City
Where you were born: Auckland
Occupation: Student at UoA; Bcom (Accounting, Commercial Law) BProp (Property) conjoint
Person you most admire: My gradfather, coming from poverty and a abusive home, he did a lot of good for his family and community
Favorite Band: John Mayer
Favorite President: John Adams, modern: Reagan
Favorite Politician: Rodger Douglas
Favorite Sports teams: Auckland Blues (rugby), Greenbay Packers
Your other interests: Current affairs, surfing (terrible at it though!), movies, reading when I get the time
Favorite Movie: X-men series, Marley and me, Captain America
Favorite tv series: Suits or How I met your mother


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« Reply #1691 on: May 04, 2013, 06:32:50 pm »

Age: 19
Gender: Male
Race/ethnicity: Scottish with a bit of Dutch
Religion: Reformed Protestant
Height: 5'10''
Weight: 150lbs
Location: Halifax, NS
Where you were born: Toronto, ON
Occupation: Student/Teaching Assistant
Person you most admire: Notfamous: My grandmother, Famous: Stephen Harper
Favorite President: Calvin Coolidge
Political Orientation: Paleoconservative
Favorite Musician(s): The Black Keys
Favorite Sports team: Toronto Raptors
Favorite Book: 1984
Favorite Show: Downton Abbey
Favorite Movie: Shawshank Redemption
Other interests: Basketball, Powerifting, Investing
Favorite person on Atlas: Cathcon or Nathan
Least Favorite person on Atlas: Opebo or Antonio V
Favorite color: Green
Do you live by yourself: No
Do you have any siblings? Younger Brother, Younger Step-Sister
Relationship status? Engaged
What year did you join Atlas? 2012
Do you have any nieces, nephews? My siblings are all much younger than I
Have you ever been attracted to someone of the same sex? Nope
If you could pick your own nationality, what nationality would you pick? Dutch
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« Reply #1692 on: May 04, 2013, 08:15:03 pm »

Famous: Stephen Harper

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« Reply #1693 on: May 05, 2013, 07:30:19 pm »

Name:  Paul
Age:  42
Gender:  Male

Race/ethnic composition:  Foolish question to ask a genealogist.  (We donít give short answers.)  My dadís side is pre-Revolutionary American, so about Ĺ English, ľ other British (mainly Scots-Irish), and ľ German.  Thereís also a trace of French.  My momís parents were Donauschwaben, from the Balkans.  Going back to the early 18th century, her ancestry would be about ĺ from modern Germany and about ľ from other German-speaking areas, especially France, Luxembourg, and the Czech Republic.

Religion:  none.  Religion is totally irrelevant to my life.
Height:  5í-10Ē in my head.  Actually, I think Iíve shrunk to 5í-9Ē.  (So, about 175 cm)
Weight:  160 lbs/73 kg
Location:  Merriam, in the Kansas suburbs of KC
Where you were born:  KCMO
Occupation:  architect

Person you most admire:  Nelson Mandela.  Iíve always been impressed that he lost 30+ years of his life to prison, yet didnít seem to hold a grudge.  Unlike, say, Mugabe, he seemed more interested in building democratic institutions in his country than in his own personal aggrandizement.  Similar things could be said about George Washington.

Favorite Band:  The Bangles?  Seriously not a music fan.  But Iím impressed that they managed 4 pop hits that sound nothing like one another.

Favorite President:  Washington.  For reasons stated above.
Favorite Sports team:  Reinforcing the gay stereotype, I have no interest in sports.

Favorite television shows:  Doctor Who, starting with the Donna Noble era.  Currently Awkward., even though Iím ďtoo oldĒ to be watching MTV.  From the past, I have a special soft spot for Daria.

Politics:  Pragmatic liberal, for lack of a better term.  Not activist enough to be a ďprogressiveĒ.  Iím proud of the Americans With Disabilities Act, because it broadened the ability of Americans to contribute to society, and Iím relieved that the unexpected consequences for once turned out to be mainly positive.  Iím very American when it comes to free speech issues, and I would oppose any laws attempting to ban Holocaust denial.  While personally somewhat conservative, I would take anyone calling me a political conservative as slanderous.

Your other interests:  Genealogy.  I would love to be published in the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, if I ever solve any of the three problems Iíve been working on for the past five !#$^@&^! years.  Also, I play trick-taking card games with groups twice a month.  I canít really stand politics, but I adore political demography.

Have you ever been attracted to someone of the opposite sex?  No, except for maybe Jordana Brewster.

Favorite quote:  From Douglas Adams, donít remember exactly, but something like ďAs Kate lay beneath a pile of rubble, she was relieved to know that she hadnít been merely imagining that this was a bad day.Ē
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« Reply #1694 on: May 06, 2013, 05:14:07 am »

We have a new angus.
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« Reply #1695 on: May 07, 2013, 02:55:11 pm »

My economic ideal:



I'm what you would call a small-town capitalist through and through.  Capitalism on a grand scale disgusts me.  That said, nothing quite tickles me fancy like the local barber shop or your friendly neighborhood hardware store. 

As for food? 





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« Reply #1696 on: May 07, 2013, 05:29:54 pm »

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« Reply #1697 on: May 07, 2013, 11:34:20 pm »

I'm 100% sure I'm not a Libertarian and I'm wearing the avatar for ornamental purposes.

What you fail to realize is that long before Government was the "big, evil, awful" thing that Libertarians view it as, markets were making people richer than would ever be necessary. Tell me, how would the free market resolve wealth inequality? The answer is, it doesn't.

Libertarians like to believe that the free market is the answer to all of America's (and the world's) problems, when in fact it caused most of those problems in the first place. It was the free market that created wealth inequality, and encouraged/encourages it in modern society. The first "rich" people--the ones that made more money than others when America was first becoming an industrial nation--did not hold that much more wealth than say the "poorer" Americans. What happened was, the industrialization expanded and corporations were born.

Corporations exist to ensure that a sort of oligarchical system be upheld throughout the monetary system. Meaning, the CEOs of the biggest companies are ensured a lot more money than the lower classes (about 350-400 times as much money, to be exact) for doing quantities less work. They deliver a cheap, but "okay enough" product onto the market, and consumerism ensures that it is eaten up without questioning exactly what it is or how it was made.

The problem is that such a small amount of people control such a disturbingly large portion of the wealth in this country (and world) and will only end up controlling more. Is Government doing anything to stop it? Not really, and certainly not as much as we should be doing. But that's because corporations have the power of Government. We need leaders that will not be afraid to stand up to corporations and strip them of their power. The voice needs to be returned to the average citizen, and the wealth with it.

I'm not talking about full-fledged socialism, I'm talking about equality. Where the poor aren't as poor and the rich aren't as rich. No one in this world could possibly need a billion dollars for their own use. They just invest it so they can make more money that they won't spend.

HAHAHAHAHAHhahahahahahahahahahaha......

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« Reply #1698 on: May 08, 2013, 05:19:20 am »

What's funny? Did I use too many adjectives?
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« Reply #1699 on: May 08, 2013, 07:40:59 am »

To be honest, free market should work.
But, we don't have free market now, we only have cartels and oligopolies which plot together to give us the cheapest product possible, at the highest price possible and with the shortest lifetime possible.
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