Past French prez elections today: President Yves COCHET, 1995-2002
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« on: October 05, 2009, 02:57:44 AM »
« edited: October 07, 2009, 10:53:47 AM by big bad fab »

In the parliamentary elections of 1993, the PS did very bad, being plagued by corruption and deep infightings. So, the Green president, facing disorder in her administration and failures after some naive measures, is unable to lead a new parliamentary majority and is forced to see a "cohabitation" with the UMP new majority.

Come the presidential elections of 1995, the constant infightings and shenanigans of the Greens lead them not to pick her again as a candidate. They pick Yves Cochet, who seems less tainted by power and more "traditional" in his "greenness".

Even if in deep trouble, the Socialists managed to nominate Bertrand Delanoë, who seems able to regain leadership over the entire left.

The UMP, which is very strong in the Parliament, isn't able to nominate only one candidate and Jean-François Copé, incumbent PM and having implemented a rather wise policy, and Xavier Bertrand, more "local", more "traditional" than Copé in a way but forced to run as the "outsider", are both candidates.

9 candidates:

Xavier Bertrand (<-> Jacques Chirac, one of the 2 big leaders of the right at the time, arch-enemy of his so-called political mate)

Jean-François Copé (<-> Edouard Balladur, one of the 2 big leaders of the right at the time, arch-enemy of his so-called political mate;
of course, you may argue that Bertrand is sarkozyst and so should be Balladur and that Copé, as a former juppéist, should be Chirac; and you may argue that Bertrand sticks to power and Copé is a bit rebellious inside the majority; BUT Bertrand was also juppéist in a way and, what is more, Bertrand is now more on the right and is more positioned as the former RPR candidate, while Copé, though "libéral", is more moderate and could be closer to the former UDF)

Bertrand Delanoë (<-> Lionel Jospin, socialist leader a bit forgotten at the time, in the mainstream wing of the PS, and, well, Delanoë was a strong jospinist !)

Alain Bocquet (<-> Robert Hue, who was quite orthodox in 1995, like Bocquet is now; and the same "outline", the same stoutness....Wink)

Louis Aliot (<-> Jean-Marie Le Pen, FN leader, a "legitimist" one)

Christian Picquet (<-> Arlette Laguiller, Trotskyite leader, quite open to alliances with the rest of the far-left and the PCF at the time)

Paul-Marie Coûteaux (<-> Philippe de Villiers, "souverainiste" candidate at the time, more than anything else)

Yves Cochet (<-> Dominique Voynet, mainstream Green, in favour of "classic" left alliance, with a possible ministerial future)

Alain Soral (<-> Jacques Cheminade, a joke and weird mix of "ouvriérisme" and far-right, with weird financial resources from the outside)

9 candidates so 9 votes that you must cast only like this: 6 - 2 - 1
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2009, 02:58:53 AM »

Copé 6
Bertrand 2
Coûteaux 1
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 11:18:55 AM »

Cochet 6
Delanoë 2
Bocquet 1
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2009, 04:37:28 PM »

6 Copé
2 Cochet
1 Bertrand
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 10:11:14 AM »

6 for Delanoë
2 for Cochet
1 for Picquet

Another presque-rime... Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 11:27:18 AM »

FRENCH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION "à la 1995"
Official results of the first round

Again, the socialist leader doesn't make it to the second round. And yet, it wasn't Ségolène...
Again, the Green candidate leads the pack.
Copé prevails over Bertrand quite clearly, contrary to RL...

45 votes
Yves Cochet 16 votes (35.6%)
Jean-François Copé 12 votes (26.7%)

Bertrand Delanoë 10 votes (22.2%)
Xavier Bertrand 3 votes (6.7%)
Alain Bocquet 2 votes (4.4%)
Paul-Marie Coûteaux 1 vote (2.2%)
Christian Picquet 1 vote (2.2%)
Louis Aliot 0 vote (0.0%)
Alain Soral 0 vote (0.0%)

Second round

2 candidates:

Xavier Bertrand (<-> Jacques Chirac, one of the 2 big leaders of the right at the time, arch-enemy of his so-called political mate)

Jean-François Copé (<-> Edouard Balladur, one of the 2 big leaders of the right at the time, arch-enemy of his so-called political mate)

Bertrand Delanoë (<-> Lionel Jospin, socialist leader a bit forgotten at the time, in the mainstream wing of the PS, and, well, Delanoë was a strong jospinist !)

Alain Bocquet (<-> Robert Hue, who was quite orthodox in 1995, like Bocquet is now; and the same "outline", the same stoutness....Wink)

Louis Aliot (<-> Jean-Marie Le Pen, FN leader, a "legitimist" one)


Christian Picquet (<-> Arlette Laguiller, Trotskyite leader, quite open to alliances with the rest of the far-left and the PCF at the time)

Paul-Marie Coûteaux (<-> Philippe de Villiers, "souverainiste" candidate at the time, more than anything else)


Yves Cochet (<-> Dominique Voynet, mainstream Green, in favour of "classic" left alliance, with a possible ministerial future)

Alain Soral (<-> Jacques Cheminade, a joke and weird mix of "ouvriérisme" and far-right, with weird financial resources from the outside)

Z candidates, so 2 votes that you may cast 2 - 0 or 1 - 1.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 11:27:56 AM »

2 Copé
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2009, 12:51:29 PM »

2 for Cochet.

Greens again... This is getting boring.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 02:01:12 PM »


That remains better than the reality...

Cochet 2
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2009, 03:27:57 PM »

1 Cochet
1 Copé
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2009, 12:51:21 AM »

Cochet

Come on, Gael. Non-vote?
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2009, 10:53:00 AM »

FRENCH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION "à la 1995"
Official results of the first round

5 voters
Yves Cochet 16 votes (35.6%)
Jean-François Copé 12 votes (26.7%)

Bertrand Delanoë 10 votes (22.2%)
Xavier Bertrand 3 votes (6.7%)
Alain Bocquet 2 votes (4.4%)
Paul-Marie Coûteaux 1 vote (2.2%)
Christian Picquet 1 vote (2.2%)
Louis Aliot 0 vote (0.0%)
Alain Soral 0 vote (0.0%)

Official results of the second round

6 voters:

Yves Cochet 9 votes (66.7%)
Jean-François Copé 3 votes (33.3%)

For the second time, the Green candidate wins the presidential election with a big margin.



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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2009, 10:55:24 AM »

I must say that I'm a bit surprised Delanoë didn't make it to the second round.

I'm pleased because he is really a nasty man when you work around him... I know what I'm talking about.
But, politically, you may say he isn't a bad candidate for the left.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2009, 01:48:32 PM »

But, politically, you may say he isn't a bad candidate for the left.

He may be the most decent of the "Old-School PS", but that's not enough for me, glad to see Cochet ahead.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2009, 05:14:58 PM »


Too hard to chose. I have nothing against any candidate, and I have a high opinion of both. And also, you know, Breton solidarity. Cochet is Breton, top of that, from Rennes.

Delanoë is decent but he's way overrated. I see his as weak-willed, wishy-washy, a moderate hero, and I don't see how his governance has been exceptional (granted, I don't live in Paris and I don't read Parisian papers). Still, certainly doesn't deserve to be sanctified as OMG THE BEST SOCIALIST EVER SO COOL OMG.
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2009, 08:58:44 AM »

Delanoë is decent but he's way overrated. I see his as weak-willed, wishy-washy, a moderate hero, and I don't see how his governance has been exceptional (granted, I don't live in Paris and I don't read Parisian papers). Still, certainly doesn't deserve to be sanctified as OMG THE BEST SOCIALIST EVER SO COOL OMG.

Way overrated certainly, but not moderate hero, and that's what makes him a bit more different than others old school PS leaders (so called elephants), the guy dares to take initiative even if some can be unpleasant for a lot. But still, he remains this old-school PS post Mitterand.

And Copé?? Some wind! The guy is a wonderful debater, but he is a fox before everything, like in "The crow and the fox", making of seduction its main way to make some politics. He is pragmatic and rather constructive to his credit, but like Sarkozy, his pragmatism really leans to populism.
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