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« on: October 12, 2009, 05:27:41 PM »
« edited: October 23, 2009, 06:14:39 AM by Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT »

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2009, 05:35:45 PM »

Well I do think it goes far enough. I might even support reeling it back a month or so, but it has my complete support regardless.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009, 06:36:45 PM »

I have a certain soft spot for the 'free move.' It allows people who are new to the game to get more used to it and move to a region they more appreciate. We should still retain some newbie-friendliness.

Unfortunately it also has the potential for great abuse, which is why I'm conflicted. However, if people are going to vote stack, I'd imagine they'd do it in the initial registration, and not necessarily in the free move.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009, 06:38:06 PM »

I have a certain soft spot for the 'free move.' It allows people who are new to the game to get more used to it and move to a region they more appreciate. We should still retain some newbie-friendliness.

Unfortunately it also has the potential for great abuse, which is why I'm conflicted. However, if people are going to vote stack, I'd imagine they'd do it in the initial registration, and not necessarily in the free move.
How about, making the free move void after a period of one week?

That's a reasonable compromise.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2009, 08:06:48 PM »

I believe we just treat this as a friendly amendment, so Senators have 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 04:47:08 AM »

I believe we just treat this as a friendly amendment, so Senators have 24 hours to object.

I saw no objections to the amendment, so consider it done.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 05:57:12 AM »

I believe we just treat this as a friendly amendment, so Senators have 24 hours to object.

I saw no objections to the amendment, so consider it done.

Do I not exist?

I oppose this amendment and call for a vote on it. The free move should be removed as it is just another way for these people to pawn the system.

I apologize. If non-Senators would stop cluttering this up it'd be easier to read. As soon as I read over this thread I saw a ton of PS and Hamilton posts (with you thrown in from time to time) and immediately thought "Okay, I'm so not reading this, this can't be important."

Quoting my post would've made it easier to notice among the sea of other posts.

Anyway, here you are:



The following amendment is at a vote, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain:

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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 05:20:28 PM »


This bickering in the Senate has got to stop, it's not even entertaining or substantive bickering. And yes, this goes for Rowan too.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2009, 05:21:10 PM »

Anyway I'm just thrilled I held a vote on that.

With 6 Ayes, the amendment has passed and debate continues.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 08:11:19 AM »

I'm very pro-debate, so usually even if there's an inkling of debate left, I'll be keeping it open. You don't have anything to worry about with this bill anyway, it won't come up for a final vote yet.
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2009, 07:01:48 PM »

I'm not too crazy about lowering the limit, honestly. And using "month" instead of "day" is somewhat unfair, thanks to February. Some people might not have to wait as long.

Four months will also enable people to move around, if they start at the right time, according to every other election cycle, essentially doing nothing to stop the problem, just delaying it.

And yes, I agree that we should use numbers instead of "months."
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2009, 05:50:06 AM »

Alright, I gave this some time, but there was no further imput unfortunately.

I take Tmth's discomfort on the issue of changing the days into "months" as an objection to the amendment. If that wasn't the case, I still object anyhow, and this is going up for a vote. Bolded parts are the amended areas.

The following amendment is now at a vote, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2009, 08:09:00 AM »

I have to vote Nay. I'm with Tmth that it's easier to just do it by days, as each month has a different amount of time involved, and it just makes it unnecessarily complicated. No need for the additional irritation, in my view.

I'd also like to say we measure most other things in days like this specifically for that reason, and we've made changes to that effect in the past. Doing it in days is standard practice.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2009, 08:30:53 AM »
« Edited: October 17, 2009, 08:32:57 AM by Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT »

It is odd, isnt it? Tongue

Ultimately it's a minor difference that doesn't make that big of a deal one way or another to me. We have day requirements for joining and running for certain offices, which is what I was referring to.

Like I said, it's no big deal to me, I'd just prefer to stick with a set amount of days so one person doesn't get a few days shaved away and another guy has to deal with additional days between moves. It depends alot on when you join and when you move, but such a thing could occur.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2009, 06:32:50 PM »

Whether or not you agree about the free move, we have a vote ongoing here, people.
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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2009, 04:52:26 AM »

2 Ayes, 3 Nays, 1 Abstaining..

We can do better than 6/10, come on.
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2009, 04:43:04 PM »

3 Ayes, 5 Nays, 1 Abstaining. This amendment has failed, debate continues.
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2009, 04:52:27 PM »

I hereby open up a vote on the following amendment, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2009, 06:14:48 PM »

On second thought, I change my vote to Aye.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2009, 03:55:51 PM »

Everyone say hello Afleitch's first post ever in this thread.
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2009, 03:18:35 AM »

7 Ayes, 2 Nays, this Amendment is currently passing. 24 hours to change your votes, everyone.
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2009, 06:10:58 AM »

9 Ayes, and 1 Nay, this Amendment passes and is chuggin' along to the regions.
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