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« on: November 01, 2009, 10:50:56 AM »
« edited: November 13, 2009, 08:01:05 AM by big bad fab »
Corazon Aquino (Philippines)
Oscar Arias Sanchez (Costa Rica)
Clement Attlee (UK)
Albert Einstein (Germany)
Mohandas Gandhi (India)
Mikhail Gorbachev (USSR)
Dag Hammarskjöld (Sweden)
Martin Luther King (USA)
Bruno Kreisky (Austria)
David Lloyd George (UK)
Rosa Luxemburg (Germany)
George Marshall (USA)
Jan Masaryk (Czechoslovakia)
Pierre Mendès-France (France)
Imre Nagy (Hungary)
Ian Palach (Czechoslovakia)
Robert Schuman (France)
Mario Soares (Portugal)
Henry Stimson (USA)
Emiliano Zapata (Mexico)

ROUND 51:

Usual rule: vote for the history maker you want to eliminate.

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 11:06:30 AM »
Yep, Bruno Kreisky !
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 04:04:14 PM »
Corazon Aquino (Philippines)
Oscar Arias Sanchez (Costa Rica)
Clement Attlee (UK)
Albert Einstein (Germany)
Mohandas Gandhi (India)
Mikhail Gorbachev (USSR)
Dag Hammarskjöld (Sweden)
Martin Luther King (USA)
Bruno Kreisky (Austria)
David Lloyd George (UK)
Rosa Luxemburg (Germany)
George Marshall (USA)
Jan Masaryk (Czechoslovakia)
Pierre Mendès-France (France)
Imre Nagy (Hungary)
Ian Palach (Czechoslovakia)
Robert Schuman (France)
Mario Soares (Portugal)
Henry Stimson (USA)
Emiliano Zapata (Mexico)

ROUND 52:

Usual rule: vote for the history maker you want to eliminate.

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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2009, 04:15:43 PM »
Rosa Luxemburg

Well, stage 3 for her, it's already big.
And she wasn't especially a moderate, even though she did nothing bad, had an ideal and died for it.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 03:50:02 PM »
Corazon Aquino (Philippines)
Oscar Arias Sanchez (Costa Rica)
Clement Attlee (UK)
Albert Einstein (Germany)
Mohandas Gandhi (India)
Mikhail Gorbachev (USSR)
Dag Hammarskjöld (Sweden)
Martin Luther King (USA)
Bruno Kreisky (Austria)
David Lloyd George (UK)
Rosa Luxemburg (Germany)
George Marshall (USA)
Jan Masaryk (Czechoslovakia)
Pierre Mendès-France (France)
Imre Nagy (Hungary)
Ian Palach (Czechoslovakia)
Robert Schuman (France)
Mario Soares (Portugal)
Henry Stimson (USA)
Emiliano Zapata (Mexico)

ROUND 53:

ROUND 53:

Special rule !
You MUST split your vote between 2 different history makers: 0.5 - 0.5.

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 03:54:47 PM »
Rosa Luxemburg 0.5

Mario Soares 0.5
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 01:36:43 PM »
Quote from: Is Steve Earle a racist? on November 04, 2009, 08:58:51 AM
We're eliminating only one?

Luxemburg, Palach.

I reserve the right to retract the Palach halfvote and cast a tactical one in case we're eliminating two.

Only one.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 03:58:31 AM »
Corazon Aquino (Philippines)
Oscar Arias Sanchez (Costa Rica)
Clement Attlee (UK)
Albert Einstein (Germany)
Mohandas Gandhi (India)
Mikhail Gorbachev (USSR)
Dag Hammarskjöld (Sweden)
Martin Luther King (USA)
Bruno Kreisky (Austria)
David Lloyd George (UK)
Rosa Luxemburg (Germany)
George Marshall (USA)
Jan Masaryk (Czechoslovakia)
Pierre Mendès-France (France)
Imre Nagy (Hungary)
Ian Palach (Czechoslovakia)
Robert Schuman (France)
Mario Soares (Portugal)
Henry Stimson (USA)
Emiliano Zapata (Mexico)

ROUND 54:

Usual rule: vote for the history maker you want to eliminate.

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 04:23:48 AM »
Mario Soares
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 03:11:03 AM »
Corazon Aquino (Philippines)
Oscar Arias Sanchez (Costa Rica)
Clement Attlee (UK)
Albert Einstein (Germany)
Mohandas Gandhi (India)
Mikhail Gorbachev (USSR)
Dag Hammarskjöld (Sweden)
Martin Luther King (USA)
Bruno Kreisky (Austria)
David Lloyd George (UK)
Rosa Luxemburg (Germany)
George Marshall (USA)
Jan Masaryk (Czechoslovakia)
Pierre Mendès-France (France)
Imre Nagy (Hungary)
Ian Palach (Czechoslovakia)
Robert Schuman (France)
Mario Soares (Portugal)
Henry Stimson (USA)
Emiliano Zapata (Mexico)

ROUND 55:

Special rule !
Vote for TWO DIFFERENT history makers
and we'll eliminate the 2 history makers who will have received the highest total of votes.

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 03:24:41 AM »
Mario Soares

Emiliano Zapata
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 09:36:13 AM »
Corazon Aquino (Philippines)
Oscar Arias Sanchez (Costa Rica)
Clement Attlee (UK)
Albert Einstein (Germany)
Mohandas Gandhi (India)
Mikhail Gorbachev (USSR)
Dag Hammarskjöld (Sweden)
Martin Luther King (USA)
Bruno Kreisky (Austria)
David Lloyd George (UK)
Rosa Luxemburg (Germany)
George Marshall (USA)
Jan Masaryk (Czechoslovakia)
Pierre Mendès-France (France)
Imre Nagy (Hungary)
Ian Palach (Czechoslovakia)
Robert Schuman (France)
Mario Soares (Portugal)
Henry Stimson (USA)
Emiliano Zapata (Mexico)

ROUND 56:

Usual rule: vote for the history maker you want to eliminate.

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2009, 09:47:48 AM »
Dag Hammarskjöld

It was far more difficult to be a Nagy, inside the regime and even with a not so good past, than to be a smart guy in the West.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2009, 02:58:26 AM »
Corazon Aquino (Philippines)
Oscar Arias Sanchez (Costa Rica)
Clement Attlee (UK)
Albert Einstein (Germany)
Mohandas Gandhi (India)
Mikhail Gorbachev (USSR)
Dag Hammarskjöld (Sweden)
Martin Luther King (USA)
Bruno Kreisky (Austria)
David Lloyd George (UK)
Rosa Luxemburg (Germany)
George Marshall (USA)
Jan Masaryk (Czechoslovakia)
Pierre Mendès-France (France)
Imre Nagy (Hungary)
Ian Palach (Czechoslovakia)
Robert Schuman (France)
Mario Soares (Portugal)
Henry Stimson (USA)
Emiliano Zapata (Mexico)

ROUND 57:

Special rule !

You must cast TWO votes in one group (for the same or for 2 different history makers)
and NO vote in the other group.

One history maker will eventually be eliminated in each group.

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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2009, 03:43:24 AM »
2 votes for Zapata
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2009, 06:24:25 AM »
I thought you were both in favour of getting rid of "small" ones ?!
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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2009, 11:07:49 AM »
The other group seems to grasp some fight too...
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2009, 03:08:35 AM »
Corazon Aquino (Philippines)
Oscar Arias Sanchez (Costa Rica)
Clement Attlee (UK)
Albert Einstein (Germany)
Mohandas Gandhi (India)
Mikhail Gorbachev (USSR)
Dag Hammarskjöld (Sweden)
Martin Luther King (USA)
Bruno Kreisky (Austria)
David Lloyd George (UK)
Rosa Luxemburg (Germany)
George Marshall (USA)
Jan Masaryk (Czechoslovakia)
Pierre Mendès-France (France)
Imre Nagy (Hungary)
Ian Palach (Czechoslovakia)
Robert Schuman (France)
Mario Soares (Portugal)
Henry Stimson (USA)
Emiliano Zapata (Mexico)

ROUND 58:

Usual rule: vote for the history maker you want to eliminate.

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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2009, 03:16:10 AM »
Oscar Arias Sanchez

We are nearing the "top 20" and I don't think he deserves to be in it, despite having been a good leader.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2009, 06:34:04 AM »
Quote from: Supa Hasi on November 10, 2009, 06:18:44 AM
Schuman again (though Arias is a good choice too... all the people who really don't belong in the top 10 seem to be in this bracket... Einstein, King, Marshall, Mendès-France, Nagy, Soares - that leaves only four here.)
I don't agree: Einstein, King, Mendès, Nagy (and Schuman) have all done things that wouldn't have been done oir wouldn't have occurred that way without them.
Soares hasn't.
Marshall, it's debatable.

But, just remember that, after round 59, I'll make only one group of the remaining 20.
So, there isn't much time to get rid of "small" ones Grin.
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2009, 09:04:45 AM »
Quote from: Supa Hasi on November 10, 2009, 06:58:50 AM
Quote from: big bad fab on November 10, 2009, 06:34:04 AM
Quote from: Supa Hasi on November 10, 2009, 06:18:44 AM
Schuman again (though Arias is a good choice too... all the people who really don't belong in the top 10 seem to be in this bracket... Einstein, King, Marshall, Mendès-France, Nagy, Soares - that leaves only four here.)
I don't agree: Einstein, King, Mendès, Nagy (and Schuman) have all done things that wouldn't have been done oir wouldn't have occurred that way without them.
Soares hasn't.
Marshall, it's debatable.
What kind of standard is that? Every living being has done that. My bowel movements wouldn't have occurred that way without me. Tongue
I was speaking of BIG things Tongue.

Without Einstein, well, no nuclear power (or far later).
Without King, no big pressure on LBJ to indeed make progress on Civil Rights.
Without Mendès, no quick end to French war in Indochina (and probably big political chaos) and no early independences for Morocco and Tunisia, easing de Gaulle big move towards African independences.
Without Nagy, Budapest would have been like Berlin 1953 or even Poland 1956, i.e. no "life-threatening" revolts for the USSR (I mean, it's Nagy that pulled out of Warsaw Pact).
Without Schuman, no CECA (and so only political and military European projects, doomed to fail).

Without Soares, well, some military forces would have anyway got rid of Salazarism and democracy would have eventually prevailed anyway.
Without Marshall, there would have been an effective general anyway to manage the army and there would have been a big plan to rebuild Europe.

Of course, it's my personal assessment (but all we do in survivors is making personal assessments and judgements Wink).
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2009, 03:59:40 PM »
Corazon Aquino (Philippines)
Oscar Arias Sanchez (Costa Rica)
Clement Attlee (UK)
Albert Einstein (Germany)
Mohandas Gandhi (India)
Mikhail Gorbachev (USSR)
Dag Hammarskjöld (Sweden)
Martin Luther King (USA)
Bruno Kreisky (Austria)
David Lloyd George (UK)
Rosa Luxemburg (Germany)
George Marshall (USA)
Jan Masaryk (Czechoslovakia)
Pierre Mendès-France (France)
Imre Nagy (Hungary)
Ian Palach (Czechoslovakia)
Robert Schuman (France)
Mario Soares (Portugal)
Henry Stimson (USA)
Emiliano Zapata (Mexico)

ROUND 59:

Special rule !

Vote first for the history maker you want to ELIMINATE.
Vote then to KEEP another history maker.

We'll eliminate one history maker, by counting "eliminate" votes as "pluses" and "keep" votes as "minuses".

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2009, 07:27:20 PM »
Eliminate: Lloyd George
Keep: Gorbachev

forced vote for DLG to save Schuman... sigh...
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2009, 08:06:22 AM »
Come and vote, guys !
With this special rule, everything is possible !
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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2009, 03:16:03 AM »
Corazon Aquino (Philippines)
Oscar Arias Sanchez (Costa Rica)
Clement Attlee (UK)
Albert Einstein (Germany)
Mohandas Gandhi (India)
Mikhail Gorbachev (USSR)
Dag Hammarskjöld (Sweden)
Martin Luther King (USA)
Bruno Kreisky (Austria)
David Lloyd George (UK)
Rosa Luxemburg (Germany)
George Marshall (USA)
Jan Masaryk (Czechoslovakia)
Pierre Mendès-France (France)
Imre Nagy (Hungary)
Ian Palach (Czechoslovakia)
Robert Schuman (France)
Mario Soares (Portugal)
Henry Stimson (USA)
Emiliano Zapata (Mexico)

ROUND 60:

Usual rule: vote for the history maker you want to eliminate.

Vote is open for 24 hours+
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