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« on: November 03, 2009, 10:34:24 AM »
« edited: November 03, 2009, 10:44:50 AM by Jas »

Following the Czech constitutional court finding against the petitioners seeking to stop ratification earlier today, Klaus has announced that he has signed the Treaty.

- BBC
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 10:37:01 AM »

To paraphrase Sir Edward Grey, the lamps are going out allover Europe, and they will not be lit again in my lifetime nor in the lifetime of anyone else.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 10:39:30 AM »

Surprising. I assume he's now gonna take a month-long shower and go on a hunger strike. It musn't come easy for Santa Klaus to sign a thing which he hates more than anything.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 10:42:10 AM »

That's a shame.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 11:57:27 AM »

Expected, but nonetheless a shame. Once people get a sufficient distance to all this they will be shaking their heads at how it was possible to do something like this in supposedly democratic countries.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 03:35:38 PM »

*sigh* Great, he's sold us all out now.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 03:58:30 PM »

A treaty that finally answers Henry Kissinger's question, increases the power of the European Parliament and reduces the chances of one country holding up much of the EU agenda.

There's still issues, but I like this treaty.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 08:58:21 PM »

A treaty that finally answers Henry Kissinger's question, increases the power of the European Parliament and reduces the chances of one country holding up much of the EU agenda.

There's still issues, but I like this treaty.

Yea and it forces all EU countries to abide by a charter of "rights" that will have european judges crafting economic and social policies forever.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2009, 08:04:05 AM »

And Cameron said he wouldn't held a referendum. Seems done then, the treaty is on. I find it better than what we have now.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 01:41:14 PM »

A treaty that finally answers Henry Kissinger's question, increases the power of the European Parliament and reduces the chances of one country holding up much of the EU agenda.

There's still issues, but I like this treaty.

Yea and it forces all EU countries to abide by a charter of "rights" that will have european judges crafting economic and social policies forever.

With all due respect, they already do. This would only apply if stuff got referred to the European Court of Human Rights.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 06:22:53 PM »

A treaty that finally answers Henry Kissinger's question, increases the power of the European Parliament and reduces the chances of one country holding up much of the EU agenda.

There's still issues, but I like this treaty.

Yea and it forces all EU countries to abide by a charter of "rights" that will have european judges crafting economic and social policies forever.

With all due respect, they already do. This would only apply if stuff got referred to the European Court of Human Rights.

I'm not talking about the European Convention on Human Rights, which is very reasonable document and doesn't make any mention of positive rights. I'm talking about the "Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union", which is burdened with ridiculous "rights", such as the "right" to "A high level of environmental protection and the improvement of the quality of the environment", whatever that means. This document will have force of law when the Lisbon treaty enters into force, and its interpretation will be entirely up to European law judges, who will be free to determine what is an adequate provision of all these positive rights nonsense and force states to kowtow to them, effectively destroying the democratic process in Europe. The only "right" this aberration provides that people didn't already have is the "right" to live in a socialist state.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 12:50:00 PM »

Britain has an opt-out from that, IIRC.
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