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Question: Does it equal 1?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« on: November 09, 2009, 09:44:28 PM »
« edited: November 09, 2009, 09:58:37 PM by the purple mountains beneath the orange sky »

Yes. People who say no are mostly uneducateds who ignore the math involved and just argue it doesn't "feel right". The math involved is pretty straightforward.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 11:30:17 AM »

What does 1-0.999999.... equal if not zero?

You can't say a number with an infinite number of zeroes between the decimal point and a one, because infinite means without end. So nothing can come after the zeroes.
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BRTD
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 11:21:53 AM »

Actually for all intents and purposes this IS mathematical fact. It's universally agreed upon by mathematicians, probably more so than evolution is agreed upon by those in that field.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,043
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2009, 10:45:33 PM »

Question for the math and number geeks out there.

Could 1 - .9999(repeating) = *, be regarded as true?
* defined as an infinitesimal

As discussed in this thread no. Basically "infinitesimally small" does not exist, it equals zero.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2009, 07:46:08 PM »

Also what is 0.999... + 0.999... ?

It can't be 1.999...8 because you can't have a digit after an infinite amount. So it would be 1.999.... In other words, 0.999... + 0.999... = 1 + 0.999.... Subtracted 0.999... from both sides, and you get 0.999... = 1.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,043
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 03:00:13 PM »

Infinity means without end. So nothing can be after an infinite amount as that would indicate an ending to it. 1.999...98 means that there is a final 9 before the 8.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,043
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2009, 01:25:05 PM »

To your comment to BRTD, there cannot not be a "last" 9. The nature of an infinite series is that it never ends, therefore it is meaningless to say there is a last value in the sequence. It would be just as meaningless to ask for the largest integer. There is always another one higher.

That's my point really. If you have an infinite number of 9s, you can't have an 8 after them.
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