Sinclair Fires Journalist

[opebo]

So who controls media, the owners or the employees?

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/2004/la-na-sinclair19oct19,1,4232426.story?coll=la-bottom-elect2004

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

When is the program going to air?

[opebo]

When is the program going to air?

Whenever the Bush campaign and the owners think is best.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

I thought it started airing this weekend on some stations, and has to air by the end of the week.
Fortunately, we have no Sinclair affiliates in DC.

[J. J.]

So who controls media, the owners or the employees?

The owners.  Opebo, that is why they are called owners.

[Nym90]

So who controls media, the owners or the employees?

The owners.  Opebo, that is why they are called owners.

Exactly. Which is why the fact that the employees are liberal is irrelevant; the owners are conservative.

[opebo]

So who controls media, the owners or the employees?

The owners.  Opebo, that is why they are called owners.

Exactly. Which is why the fact that the employees are liberal is irrelevant; the owners are conservative.

Precisely so.  Some people are so literal-minded on here - you have to spell it out for them. 

[CollectiveInterest]

You guys watching Sinclair's stock tank?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SBGI&t=1d

[J. J.]

So who controls media, the owners or the employees?

The owners.  Opebo, that is why they are called owners.

Exactly. Which is why the fact that the employees are liberal is irrelevant; the owners are conservative.

Precisely so.  Some people are so literal-minded on here - you have to spell it out for them. 

I'll certainly agree that the owners of this relatively small group of stations are.  This doesn't qualify as the entire media.  It doesn't even own a station in my market.

[CollectiveInterest]

I'll certainly agree that the owners of this relatively small group of stations are.  This doesn't qualify as the entire media.  It doesn't even own a station in my market.

Do you know what percent of US households are covered by Sinclair stations?

[opebo]

You guys watching Sinclair's stock tank?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SBGI&t=1d

Yeah, its tanking, but even if they lose the whole value of the station they'll gain a lot more in patronage if Bush is re-elected.

[Nym90]

So who controls media, the owners or the employees?

The owners.  Opebo, that is why they are called owners.

Exactly. Which is why the fact that the employees are liberal is irrelevant; the owners are conservative.

Precisely so.  Some people are so literal-minded on here - you have to spell it out for them. 

I'll certainly agree that the owners of this relatively small group of stations are.  This doesn't qualify as the entire media.  It doesn't even own a station in my market.

Well business owners in general tend to be conservative, and I see no logical reason why the media would be different than other businesses.

[A18]

Business owners don't write the actual news coverage

[CollectiveInterest]

Philip, I invite you to participate in a thread I created for you. See https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=10622.0

[opebo]

Business owners don't write the actual news coverage

They direct it down to minute detail, and also fire anyone who diverges from their planned propaganda.  That's one of the main benefits of owning a media outlet - automatic political influence.  See the article I linked at the beginning of this thread.

[J. J.]

I'll certainly agree that the owners of this relatively small group of stations are.  This doesn't qualify as the entire media.  It doesn't even own a station in my market.

Do you know what percent of US households are covered by Sinclair stations?

No, but I do Sinclair owns slightly less than 7% of all commercial stations in the US and that the bulk of the stations it owns are not affiliated with the any of the three major, and higher rated, networks. 

You seem to be attempting to make two two points:

1.  The owners of media are not liberal.  You've demonstrated that 7% are not.  The other 93+% may opr may not be.

2.  That a lot of households could gain access to the broadcast.  The question is, are they likely to gain this access?  Will Sinclair's ratings go up?  My answer is, probably not.

[opebo]

I'll certainly agree that the owners of this relatively small group of stations are.  This doesn't qualify as the entire media.  It doesn't even own a station in my market.

Do you know what percent of US households are covered by Sinclair stations?

No, but I do Sinclair owns slightly less than 7% of all commercial stations in the US and that the bulk of the stations it owns are not affiliated with the any of the three major, and higher rated, networks. 

You seem to be attempting to make two two points:

I think the two points were:

1)  It is the owner, not the employee journalist, who determines the political bias and campaign efforts of a media institution.

2)  While it is possible that not all owners are pro-Bush,  certainly a lot bigger percentage of owners are for Bush than journalists.

[ATFFL]

You going to tell me Ted Turner is a conservative?

THe cable news networks are run by the owners.  The network news is run by the editors, the owners focus more on the entertainment portion of the network since it makes far, far more money.

[opebo]

You going to tell me Ted Turner is a conservative?

THe cable news networks are run by the owners.  The network news is run by the editors, the owners focus more on the entertainment portion of the network since it makes far, far more money.

So, they own something and have the potential to completely control it, and thereby have great political influence, but don't bother because they're too busy worrying about reality shows.  Unlikely.  I think they will find time to control both in precisely the way they want.

[J. J.]

I think the two points were:

1)  It is the owner, not the employee journalist, who determines the political bias and campaign efforts of a media institution.

2)  While it is possible that not all owners are pro-Bush,  certainly a lot bigger percentage of owners are for Bush than journalists.

I believe I said that the other owners may or may not be Bush supporters.  We really can't tell from the actions of one corporation.

I've also pointed out that the viewership of this program is likely to be very low.

You'll also notice that I have not used the term "liberal media."  You are stereotyping, again.

[ATFFL]

My brother in law is in charge of the art department for the local Sinclair stations.  There was a big protest planned for yesterday.

The protestors were required to get a permit to protest on private property.  WHen they filled out the forms the entered the wrong address.  The police turned them away from teh station and made them go to the address they had listed.  They gave up quickly.

The counter protest, however, had the correct address and, thanks to goo dintelligence, the incorrect address as well.  They ran their counter protest at both sites.

[J. J.]

The protestors were required to get a permit to protest on private property.  WHen they filled out the forms the entered the wrong address.  The police turned them away from teh station and made them go to the address they had listed. 

Did they have to move to the left.  :-)

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So who controls media, the owners or the employees?

The owners.  Opebo, that is why they are called owners.

They don't own the airwaves, the public does. They can't do whatever they want with the airwaves.

[opebo]

So who controls media, the owners or the employees?

The owners.  Opebo, that is why they are called owners.

They don't own the airwaves, the public does. They can't do whatever they want with the airwaves.

I think they can right now, as the administration is in charge of the FCC.  Unless a court could block it?

[Wakie]

The courts won't block them from broadcasting it.  But it is an incredibly stupid move as it opens them up to all kinds of lawsuits.  And frankly, the Kerry camp should sue their butts off.